u/Raevelry

I keep seeing so many people saying x and x unit are needed, butterfly vs Deluge vs Index for the Yi Sang, how much Echoes is needed or not, etc

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Id like to actually have an extensive idea of what the Sinking team looks like, and whats needed, I have a majority of sinking units includinng Walpurgis exclusives

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If you need an example of content to design for, id say Refraction Railway or Refractrials, not Mirror dungeon

I actually asked this on the main /r/edh but Im very curious what the dedicated cEDH sub thinks on this idea of 'cEDH Commander' nomer

Particularly because most of you, I assume, have the tournament experience/cEDH kitchen table experience, and in that, does that give you more insight? Do you think it gives a different respect to what commanders automatically feel cEDH vs what is stereotyped as such?

Anyway, I saw a reply post on a Magic sub saying [[Brigid, Clachan's Heart // Brigid, Doun's Mind]] is a "cEDH commander" which I found kind of interesting of an idea

To me, I would classify any cEDH commander as any of the commanders that are on this EDHtop16 site.

But I do think this is a vague idea. Is it only the top 16 conversion commanders that gain the nomer 'cEDH' commanders?

And what about new commanders? Brigid is only a couple of months old and she does have two +50 player tournaments since then, but [[Urza, High Lord Artificer]] is one many call a cEDH commander but hasn't won a single tournament in a year. What measure qualifies, a cEDH commander?

Does it matter? Kinda, personally I try to avoid such commanders, especially non-partner ones, as they tend to generate a lot of animosity on the table before even a mulligan. Just the presence can scare/grab attention.

Im curious what you all think!

So Pauper's reddit already has a post calling for a preemptive ban, but I thought it would be fun to talk about this too for cEDH.

So the combo is based on as follows:

> [[Hawkeye's Bow]] R > > Artifact — Equipment > > Equipped creature gets +1/+0 and has reach. > > Whenever equipped creature becomes tapped, it deals 1 damage to each opponent. > > Equip {1} ({1}: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)

When equipped to a [[Seeker of Skybreak]] or [[Aphetto Alchemist]], they can untap themselves infinitely to win the game.

Has some obvious caveats, as they need to get over summoning sickness, and its a sorcery speed to equip the bow. And the Bow is pretty bad on its own. The creatures arent bad, Aphetto is basically a ramp piece, but yeah.

Do you think it has legs in cEDH?

After trudging along with Kinnan and Magda, Im curious about the more underrated decks! I'd love to hear about what stuff you've brewed and/or have had success with, flying under the radar for people!

So I was planning to make [[Vnwxt, Verbose Host]], little guy from Aetherdrift, who draws you a bunch of cards, and I realized a problem in the deck: Its good, but it plays the same dang time every game

1. Play an evasive creature turn 1
2. Vnwxt, Verbose Host turn 2 (or sol ring into him
3. Attack turn 3, do something here (ramp, draw, etc)
4. Attack turn 4, start drawing a fuck ton

Eventually you draw your entire deck, and can use some cheesy free counterspells and pitch spells because of your absurd amount of card draw

And each game goes like this. Which is a good thing, its a very consistent deck.

Too consistent. The deck basically plays out the same 4 turns every time, and because of the absurd card draw, it has no reason not to. Delaying Vnwxt is a huge mistake or has to be in a super detrimental board state turn 2 (which wont happen most of the time). And because he has no power, you want to get your speed going asap so you gotta play the turn 1 Evasive guy each.

And it doesnt evne have tutors.

It made me think: Would I even like the deck? Because I might get bored with it after playing the same way. I do tend to enjoy decks that, while consistent, are usually able to produce a variety of gameplay states.

So how do you guys balance that out in your deck building? The consistency of always having a certain play on a certain turn, but also not falling for it being the same thing every game.