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Unpopular Opinion: Let people post their fringe/high bracket 4 posts. Make one card suggestion then move on with your day.

Yes, degenerateCEDH exists. Who cares? I'm not advising we give bracket 4 advice. This sub is mostly dead outside of like 3 cards per set, people asking about a commander and moving the discussion to discord, or people in the "wrong" sub. Those people are almost always people who ARE genuinely trying to win the most efficient way possible but they just don't understand the gap between brackets 4 and 5.

We have to be the most unwelcoming community ever. It's like if an amateur birdwatcher was expected to memorize a bird catalogue before they were allowed to ask questions. Responses are always "fringe", "not cedh", "wrong sub", or "look up a decklist". Why not just suggest one or two cards and why they're good? Why not just get them closer to bracket 5, even if it's just one increment?

Cedh is about playing to win, they're almost always here because they're TRYING to play to win. They want a few tips, why can't we just give them the tips? I think it's incredibly lame and unwelcoming. I usually try to give tips when people make these posts, or if they ask about a commander that's genuinely bad I let them down easy. It's not hard. Just assume they're you before you ever got into cedh, and help them get a little closer.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I am not advocating for us making bracket 4 suggestions. Lot of comments seem to think this is condoning bracket 4 for this subreddit, it is not.

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u/themonkery — 17 hours ago
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Are my decks too close to cEDH?

I’m feeling unsure, as someone said my B4s are basically cEDH level decks, so I thought I’d ask the experts. These are my three B4s:

Kefka: https://moxfield.com/decks/3KoKXk2ly0yixXQWcGVW9g

Rowan: https://moxfield.com/decks/9maV0EGXz0i6BuYNgjzF\_A

Hidetsugu & Kairi: https://moxfield.com/decks/V5meAZlwqnSnlEfi4k2jSw

Kefka and H&K were started from budget builds that I’ve been changing up and upgrading over time, Rowan I built from scratch. Are these too powerful for B4?

Note: I know very little about the cEDH meta, because it’s not something I look into outside of one time I proxied a Thrasios/Vial Smasher deck and what I’ve seen at my LGS.

u/DarthSnugglePuss — 14 hours ago
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Fine Tuning for some entry level cEDH (and yes, another Smaug deck tech attempt)

Recently I've been mulling over the possibility of expanding my EDH beyond the casual play and into more cEDH circles. Not planning to nor expecting to break open the meta, but brewing within some fundamentals as far as I understand them to try and learn more and have fun. None of my casual decks really focused on meta considerations, infinite combos, and the like so I'm really just trying to get my feet wet.

Decklist

I present to you a [Smaug the Impenetrable] list I've settled into: https://moxfield.com/decks/nS-iYFwVU0mZPdEU6Dg2Jw

Wincons / Play pattern

We've all seen the [Pyrohemia]/[Pestilence] line, so I won't go down that rabbit hole; likewise the [Mayhem Devil] cycle for infinite mana is obvious. I've included [Banefire] [Starstorm] and [Breach the Multiverse] as additional wincons

Meta considerations

I'm working out how viable the support package is if I'm able to resolve Smaug into any of those, while still presenting interaction to the table of Rogsi, Tymna, and Kennin decks. If anything, I'm also more inclined to attend the "off meta" events at my LGS with cards like [Foodchain] being banned, where I might be more viable? I've played a couple games into Magda, Eldrazi Colorless, Rog, Raph and Mikey, Azula, and Azami in those events (and others I can't recall).

Budget

Budget-wise, I'm kind of so-so as this is more of a passion project than a deep investment (so proxies are likely going to be involved for now). Along with that my aspirations are mostly learning over tournament circuits.

Testing

I haven't had much game testing outside of gold fishing, but that has at least had some interesting interactions with mana curve and timing. Obviously gold fishing without intimate knowledge of counter play only gets me so far.

Just welcoming some feedback and consideration from those much more engrossed in the format. Who knows, maybe there's an inclusion someone hadn't considered (likely not, or at best a 3rd, 4th, 10th in slot option haha).

Appreciated in advance.

u/dernicus — 20 hours ago
▲ 39 r/CompetitiveEDH

What's your experience on Gleaming Splendor ?

It performs very bad on my games. I am on the verge to take it out. Could you share your experience ? Maybe I play it wrong.

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u/chongsen — 22 hours ago
▲ 2 r/CompetitiveEDH

Verity circle in RogIshai

Hi guys i come here to ask about what do you think of the card Verity circle in the RogIshai deck. The point or including this card is that the meta has a lot of decks with mana dorks like every thrasios deck, sisay... I've never seen this card in a list of the deck but i think it can work well. I hear your opinions thanks

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u/Joose_42 — 19 hours ago
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How much variance between lists is acceptable? (Sloppy Blue Farm)

I compared my list to similar lists on edhtop16 and found that I have about 10 cards different, 2 of which ([[Exhibition Tidecaller]] and [[Watery Grave]]) are pet cards at this stage.

Probably being a tad ambitious - I'm playing 3 win cons (Breach, Thassa's and FMM loops) while trying to keep the average CMC low for Naus.

https://moxfield.com/decks/3P1o55bUFEWMQhL71RStUQ

If there are recommendations that can make the average CMC lower for Naus without deviating from the main plan, I am all ears.

u/HereNessieNessie — 17 hours ago
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What's the scene in Pittsburgh?

I'll be traveling that direction for a week in September and wondering if there's an IRL scene for cedh games any nights during the week to catch. Any input helps!

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u/Salt-Performer-4814 — 18 hours ago
▲ 16 r/CompetitiveEDH

Mirage mirror as an answer yo slop in mono red?

[[mirage mirror]] copying an engine for 5 mana the first time, then 2 mana be it remora, rhystic, smothering, or gleaming seems very decent in red I think? Maybe I’m just desperate for draw and seeing as I can’t waste slots just removing and most of the time waiting is letting more doors close on me it seems like a proactive answer?

Has anyone tried it ?
Might help as a backup to double up on face breakers treasure triggers or maybe a one ring, or any of our bad engines so it’s not necessarily a dead card that completely depends on the table ?

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u/hussefworx — 1 day ago
▲ 9 r/CompetitiveEDH

Pre tourney cuts/swaps

Hi so I’m going to do my first cedh tournament at me LGs and the prize is a revised badlands. The meta I have no idea because it’s gonna draw a lot of knew people in the area in I’m running a turbo clue farm with necro breach throacle lines. I have some things I’m on the fence about and I want some opinions. The sideboard is thing I am thinking about adding. I’ve noticed this deck can consistently get a turn 3 win but sometimes the mulligans are rough.
Here is the list-
https://manabox.app/decks/AaAdF3wFd2ORkpetcM8mIQ

u/ResponsibleBaker5657 — 24 hours ago
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Why doesn't cEDH run more removal?

Been watching some games in the format and I see tons of stack interaction and barely any on board removal.

Is there a reason or have I just watched too low of a sample size?

Big into edh and trying to understand cEDH more.

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u/WaltzIntelligent9801 — 2 days ago
▲ 12 r/CompetitiveEDH

The MadCap Jester

Here is a Mad Cap Jester list I am experimenting with. I have had great experiences with this deck after playing with it for 15 days. pushing for wins on turn 4 to 5 reliably while slowing down your opponents. please tell me what y'all think, I would love suggestions and or advice on what people would change and why. I am wanting to make this my main tourney deck so i am expecting to go against bluefarm and other common decklists.
this is a theft tempo midrange deck
https://moxfield.com/decks/-g-qVGnItEqSvZ8odLAC4A

My budget is infinity. i own most of the cards printed to date even most of the reserve list.

Current win line
Main Underworld lines using grinding station or brain freeze

Alt win lines
Thorical Combo

Bitter ordeal/sadistic sacrament. search an opens library when you have your commander out to steal their thorical combo and a piece of free interaction feels really good.

Value city
Tasha's hideous laughter: getting 20 CMC minimum form each opponent tends to win me the game on the spot. especially good into turbo decks like Rog/Si

Memory Vessel: While expensive this card is Amazing into the current Rhystic Study meta and with you commander its giving you access to 28 cards while also not letting opponents cast spells from hand until the start of you next turn.

Prosper Tome bound: this one card has one me every game that he has been played in. makes it easy to keep casting from exile and net mana off of free spells and lands.

u/StankGobbo — 2 days ago
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Is Dina, Soul Steeper the best commander for fast 2-card infinite death loops?

- Her color identity is fantastic for tutoring the other card needed.

- She's very cheap (2cmc)

- Can death loop with either of 2 cards (Exquisite Blood and Bloodthirsty Conqueror)

- The only other requisite after having the two cards on the field is gaining life or dealing damage to a player.

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u/Ordinary-Breakfast-3 — 2 days ago
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Celes Rune Knight viability. Decklist in comments

* disclaimer I’m a 60 card and limited player new to the format, so I apologize if I ask stupid questions.

Howdy yall,

Celes was my filthy casual pet deck, I’ve really enjoyed the play style and decided to try ramp her up.

I’ve goldfished the hell out of it and can pull off turn two turn / three wins with the persist lines holding silence and swats in hand. I’ve also included a later abdel and world gorger combos to amass tokens/ mana to try push through a different way.

I’m not looking to win tournaments just enjoying learning the format with something I can hang with.

Thank you!

https://archidekt.com/decks/15347023/world\_of\_ruin

u/H0USESHOES — 2 days ago
▲ 28 r/CompetitiveEDH

Addressing the 4th seat issue

Everyone knows 4th seat is the hardest place to be in and faces a severe disadvantage. I've heard many proposals but not this one I have in mind. What does the community think about allowing 4th seat to put a land into play from their hand during pregame actions? I think this would be great, it would allow 4th seat mana for interaction against explosive turn 1's, this is extra relevant if the deck in 4th is not blue. 4th seat being on 2 lands on turn 4 is not scary, turn 5 usually starts with 2 lands anyways. No extra cards are given out, a player who is at a high disadvantage is made equal and I believe would create more balanced game play overall. What do you think should be done to equal this scale that is clearly out of balance?

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u/Eunuchs_Intrigues — 3 days ago
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What happens if you ban Rhystic, tithe, and necro?

Saw in a video with Higher that if he had full control he would ban rhystic, necro, and tithe. What are people thoughts about it? A common argument for banning rhystic is that turbo just runs away with the game but if necro is banned too, it makes turbo significantly harder. They can still t1-2 ad naus but that’s way harder than necro. Tithe I think is less of a problem if rhystic is banned but I understand why it would be considered.

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u/Danmjh — 3 days ago
▲ 39 r/CompetitiveEDH

How do we feel on Hermit Druid?

With [[Shang-Chi, Master of Kung Fu]] I am much higher on hermit Druid in general. I know it’s open to blow outs, but having a win the game button seems strong.

I’m leaning towards tymna/thras to give longevity in the slop meta, while still having a turbo option. Is hermit Druid too slow? Too forecasted?

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u/bondlegolas — 3 days ago
▲ 4 r/CompetitiveEDH

My first cEDH deck!

My first cEDH deck!

I wanted to do a shadow split second deck, but it feels a little slow. How can I improve it?

I have no budget, I want to get shadow out and cast ad naus with split second asap. I would really love to leave shadow as the commander, but if y'all think there's a better strat or he's not viable let me know please :))!

I'm still new to cEDH so I'm not sure if this really fits into the meta. I have some people in my pod that don't get to run their fast B4 decks so I want to let them use those sometimes. I have played a former, more primitive version of this deck and I've also tested this deck in the tester on archidekt and every time I try it the deck feels sluggish and poorly performing.

https://archidekt.com/decks/20967165/shadow

u/ProfessionalMatch955 — 2 days ago
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Combos for clue farm

Hi so yesterday I posted about if Will the Wise and Lucas the Sharpshooter could be cedh and turns out THEY ALREaDY ARE! So now I’m wondering about combos and like how to win with the deck cause I’m just a newborn baby when it comes to cedh.

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u/ResponsibleBaker5657 — 2 days ago