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Are there any Gifts Ungiven piles that can win using Abdel Adrian and Animate Dead/Necromancy/DotD?

I was playing a bracket 4 game today (sorry) and resolved a Gifts Ungiven (first time playing with the card). I thought for certain I could find a pile that would allow me to win with Abdel but the monkey in my brain couldn't clap its cymbals fast enough. So, is there a combination of 4 cards, including Abdel + Animate Dead, that can win here independent of the existing board state and commander choice?

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u/SomeGuyInPants — 1 hour ago

Dograkh, Turbo Viability?

So the thought behind this decklist was that I could abuse the speed of Rograkh and Yoshimaru being consistently out on turn 1 to assemble mana and a combo line quickly. The issue has been the lack of tutors but I’ve been able to find some unique ways to churn through the deck like [[Search For Dagger]]

The win lines are currently Walking Ballista Combos and [[Cloudstone Curio]]Combos for infinite Storm count

I think there is a build somewhere in the considering pile and main deck that could put up some wins! I was neglecting some of the Staxy legends because if I wanted to run Boros stax then I feel I’d be better with [[Winota]] it’s been a hard push and pull to figure out this decks place or if it even has one? The issue is I don’t have an arguement for how this attacks the meta except for the fact that constant pressure on life totals helps against [[Treasonous Ogre]] and [[Ad Naus]] lists.

What do you think of this build? Are there ways I could make it more consistent at churning out win cons? How would you lean into building this pair?

Dograkh

u/RogueOnTheStack — 13 hours ago
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ayara, hard time cutting cards

Hello!

So i would like to upgrade my Ayara deck. I have a hard time cutting cards though! some sugggestions from better players then me?

I was thinking about adding bloodthirsty qonqueror and marauding blight-priest. Mostly for increased chance to get infinite combo with Vito and exquisite blood.

Also thinking of adding dark ritual and imps mischief for faster ramp an protection. Also was thinking about Aetherflux reservoir.

But dont really know what cards i should cut. Was thinking about great unclean one ( to slow) and dauthi woidwalker ( mostly black good stuff, dont really synergise with my deck). Dont really want to go full cedh but maybe bracket 4 with a chance to hold my own in high power games. So no zero mana ramp.

Here is my deck

ayara // Commander (Ayara, First of Locthwain) deck list mtg // Moxfield — MTG Deck Builder

u/Bayonettakratos — 7 hours ago

Your opinions on Atraxa Grand Unifier

I am currently building Atraxa as my first cedh deck. I know that she has been considered fringe in the past but I would like some insights in general on what you think about her. Do you have experience playing the deck or playing against it, is it still viable or lacking too much in certain aspects maybe.

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u/Amaymon_ow — 15 hours ago

Bello EDH

My bello deck does really well and has become an major threat in my friend group, but was wondering if there's anyway to make it a bit more competitive or any changes to really push it up a bracket.

The decks main focus is ramping and then turning vehicles and a few enchments into threats and swinging, I know an unwinding clock might be good to go in, but not sure what to trade it with,

Budget: unlimited I want this to be insane deck

https://moxfield.com/decks/-H4iM-\_dsE-faR2PPIcB0A

u/manarunez — 12 hours ago

cEDH beginner first deck

Hi! I was hoping to get some insight on a first deck as a player looking to get into cEDH.

Some context: I’ve played casual commander a lot for about a year, with prior MTG experience from when I was younger too. I really love commander but would love to dip my toes into cEDH for the competitive and powerful experience, and from what I’ve seen about the awesome community. I’ve been familiarizing myself with the meta and gameplay through channels like Play To Win and Critical EDH too.

It’s kind of difficult to figure out which deck to try first since there’s so many and different flavors. And tbh, my casual instincts tell me to pick a fringe deck because I love playing cool and unique cards, but I realize that probably would not set me up well to learn the format.

So, I’d appreciate any tips to set myself up well enough! I really enjoy graveyard stuff/recursion in casual if that helps any. Thanks!

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Best Decks for Politicking

I am exploring my options for my first cEDH deck. I was considering turbo options like Ral and RogSi, but I read that turbo isn’t the best archetype to take advantage of politicking because it’s often “either counter this or lose” as you try to jam an early win. By comparison, I have heard Blue Farm and other midrange decks tend to be in a better position to politic compared to turbo. Politicking is my favorite part about casual commander and I’d like to choose a deck that enables me to hone those skills. Point me in the right direction. Should I just build Blue Farm? What are my other options?

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u/crballer1 — 1 day ago

cEDH Magda Suggestions

Hey, so i have been working on a Magda, Brazen Outlaw deck, and have recently add more cards to make it for a small cEDH tournament. The cards I'm think of add/adding back in are: Adaptive Automaton; Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer; God-Pharaoh's Statue; Treasonous Ogre; and Mox Amber. those are a few cards I'm thinking about adding, but if there any other cards you guys can suggest I'd greatly appreciate it. They are fine with a few proxies so price isn't a issue.

Deck Link: https://moxfield.com/decks/EU9xcWInqEe750h_n9Y-zA

u/PktTracer — 1 day ago

More Bear - More (insert drug reference here)

Good afternoon, fellow cEDH folks. I've got some questions about a Lumra deck I've been trying out.

So far, I've had some luck with the deck, but the issue I'm finding is that the deck is really slow sometimes. I suppose that's EVERY deck at times, but I feel like I can do better with this. I'm fairly new to the Lumra playstyle, but I get the general gist of what I'm supposed to be doing with the lands/looping and general bear-nanigans.

As it sits right now, I've got a few win conditions:

  1. Loop Lumra

  2. Loop Lumra some more

  3. Loop Lumra while growling like a bear

Could someone in here more experienced with this deck potentially help me out? Thanks!

https://moxfield.com/decks/QQdmFC2p6U6RYvwffMtQxQ

u/ThuggNastee — 1 day ago

Why are Yuriko decks not including Mnemonic Betrayal?

I have looked at a lot of Yuriko lists over the last days to get inspiration for my own brew and noticed something. Almost no recent list update includes a copy of [[Mnemonic Betrayal]]. As a Dimir/Esper-Boy I had to learn that this is an auto-include in any of those color combinations. Why not here?

[[Mnemonic Betrayal]] it is not my favorite card and most of the times best to have a blue pip for pitching, but I do understand that in cases it can act as a 1-card-WinCon. Why does Yuriko not care?

Seeing that some lists slot a 4-mana Talion in the list, I was just thinking [[Mnemonic Betrayal]] might be the better pick here. I bet people tested this before, so I wanted to ask first.

Is the Yuriko game plan so focused on combat and Yuriko triggers that it is a bad card in the deck? Is Yuriko really too fast to make good use of the card.

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u/MaxxSpielt — 2 days ago

Is there a good argument that Rog/Si is the strongest deck in the format?

It seems like a deck that puts up good results, while being so game warping that people mulligan just to stop it, and it still often does not work to stop it. What do you guys think?

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u/damascius1 — 2 days ago

How would you rank top cEDH decks by complexity?

Essentially the title! Was having this conversation with my play group recently and it sparked up some really interesting points. From what we discussed it seems that gitrog, Tayam and Krark Sakashima are up there, but would love your feedback. (I’m a proud Lumra pilot, and while the deck isn’t insanely complicated I feel like it’s filled with nuances and tricky mulligans). Thanks!

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u/HB7867 — 2 days ago

Can uncommon commanders still get results in cEDH?

I wanted to make a deck with Oloro, Ageless Ascetic as my commander but after doing a decent amount of research on what cards to put into the deck I ended up seeing that he wasn't really played in bracket 5 anymore. I'd still like to use him if I can realistically still do well with him but if not then id also like some advice on what commander I can use instead that still focuses on card draw in esper colors.

I also recently had the idea of trying to make Ulalek work since that seemed fun but I don't think that's ever been a thing and given cEDH's mindset of prioritizing efficiency over all else im not sure if it's worth even attempting to make a "fun" commander work at such a high level.

These are just the commanders that ive personally been looking into recently but my actual question itself is more about cEDH and uncommon commanders in general, not just these two.

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u/Zarik8256 — 2 days ago

Questions about taking a draw

So I was playing on spell table and kefka had a pact while the other two were fighting with tymna thrass and yoshi thrass with biomancers on the stack. I'm playing Oswald, with win on board and I'm next in turn order. For one, it's spell table, and the other, if they play all their interaction trying to keep the other from winning, that leaves me able to win. Kefka offered the draw and the other two said, yeah we will take the draw, probably because it had been almost 30 minutes just with this stack war. If I don't take a draw, do they have to keep playing it out until they run out of resources??

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u/RazorTooth75 — 2 days ago

Cedh Ral Monsoon Mage Optimization need help

Ive been trying to build a cool Ral cEDH deck to play with my pod but I've been stumped while making the deck. I was consulting my friend and he told me that cards, specifically Birgi, Electro, Storm-Kiln, and Treasonous Ogre were to high mana cost to be useful in Ral and that I should cut them. I do understand his point as Ral is supposed to be a commander that can rush out wins quickly and storm, but edhtop16 and every Ral deck I see runs them. Is there something I am missing out on here that I don't understand? Here is my decklist: https://moxfield.com/decks/3qZJU2B99keSQpiUxZkoXA

Any additional help building/customizing will also be appreciated. I do not have a budget I am just interested in the building. This deck is supposed to go through a bunch of spells and eventually combo or storm off (also the win con). I have been playing a version of this deck with and without these mana generating creatures and do not see much of a benefit to running them, but I could be wrong. Also I am willing to change anything that is wrong with my deck.

u/Commoncrop-1234 — 2 days ago

Why are these cards in Lumra?

I recently proxied a Lumra list from edhtop16 as my first foray into the format (unfortunately I don't remember which list it was) and theres just a couple of cards that in goldfishing and the few games I've played that just seem kind of questionable and I'm hoping I'm just missing something!

[[Ashaya]] is 5 mana and... makes Lumra loops have one more landfall trigger? maybe adds a couple extra mana? Seems good with Field of the Dead but that's about all I'm seeing

[[Rootpath Purifier]] seems SUPER cool, but there's only two ways in the deck to search for basics so 4 mana seems like a lot

[[Peter Parker's Camera]] is almost certainly there to copy Lumra's etb, but I've found that I basically never have 2 open after casting her for 6. I also just realized that it can copy fetch lands which is cool. I would 100% believe this is worth a slot and I just need more reps.

[[Ba Sing Se]] is like a fine card and can help get a couple extra landfall triggers over the game, but is that really worth basically 4 mana?

[[Geier Reach Sanitarium]] makes sense because looting is really good for me, but looting is also really good for everyone else

I am positive I'm missing something, I'd just love to know what it is. Thanks!

Here is the list (my copy not the original, but its unchanged, except I have my Maybeboard)

https://archidekt.com/decks/22767156/lumra\_but\_cedh

u/jimnah- — 2 days ago

Gale/Scion of Halaster

I’m looking at making my second CEDH deck, and was interested in running dimir spellslinger. With my current list, my win conditions are: Thoracle/Lab-man & Consult/Pact, Hullbreaker & Mastermind/Bowmasters, Floodcaller & Ret. Helix & OBM. While I understand this likely won’t be a tEDH viable commander, I would appreciate some feedback and advice on how to improve my list.

Current feedback I’ve received from my pod/friends:
[[Sapphire Medallion]] and [[Jet Medallion]] aren’t doing much: they’re placeholders until I can get my hands on a copy of Chrome Mox and Gemstone Caverns.

[[Street wraith]] seems like it isn’t doing much: it’s not, I just like the card, and it’s free card draw. I’m very open to replacing this, likely with a Mox Amber or a Mana crypt (should it be unbanned).

[[Tidal Bore]] doesn’t advance your gameplan much: It’s a free untap of one of my looters, and it can function as both an enable and as a ritual if I haven’t played a land yet.

As a personal preference I do not proxy, which is keeping me away from cards like Intuition and Mox Diamond for the initial list.

I don’t really have a budget I’m trying to adhere to, and am planning to slowly upgrade this deck throughout the next year.

https://manabox.app/decks/AZ3q9j4wf5SwSFe7bt7gaA

u/Shard276 — 2 days ago

How do y'all think this deck would hold up?

https://archidekt.com/decks/20894716/jan_jansen_competitive_crafter_fringe

I've been working on this deck for a little over a year now, just trying to make Jan as strong as he possibly can be, how do you guys think he would do? I'm open to suggestions as my brain is starting to get a little fried on this one lol

I've played it quite a bit, and I guess the biggest issue I run into is possibly too much ramp and not enough to spend it on?

u/vegan_sharks — 3 days ago

trying out esper Raffine Scheming Seer fringe pile

here's the decklist, maintained by me and a friend; https://moxfield.com/decks/y8v2ANTv-Uu7zsti5K-koQ

started out as a hashaton reanimator adjacent deck that tried to reanimate big creatures that win the game by overwhelming opponents with card advantage or by just not letting them play which then devolved into a very creature heavy, control shell that can also crack doomsday piles in addition to a bunch of stuff it can do

im questioning what other stuff i might add or would work for the deck and what its trying to do. right now im trying [[umezawa's jitte]], [[tymna]] and [[delney]], and [[lavinia azorius renegade]] but im also looking into possible swaps for [[grand abolisher]], particularly [[myrel shield of argive]] which plays well into the "go wide" strategy of raffine that provides additional card advantage;
also considering [[spider woman stunning saviour]] instead of [[charismatic conqueror]], or [[grim hireling]] over [[rev tithe extractor]], or if i should replace the cards that contradict each other ie [[wan shi tong librarian]] when im also running [[opposition agent]]

u/Ren9119 — 3 days ago

Confusion on meta input by content creators

Super confused as several content creators have said stax decks hand the game to decks like Kinnan. As someone who played stax an extensive amount, I promise kinnan absolutely hates clarion conqueror and co. and have won many times against the deck on both Ellivere and Winota.

Where I get confused is with decks like Lumra existing, why not highlight that as the antithesis to stax? I legitimately cannot do a damn thing about your land combo on either stax deck while I effectively prevent the other decks from interacting, leading to an autowin for the lands-combo player. Anyone else with similar annecdotal experience?

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u/Wide_Ad2268 — 3 days ago