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Dose that mean Thor is stronger than Freya, Freyr and even Odin?

So in canon, V1 didn’t nerf Homelander. Both Butcher and Homelander were on the height of their powers in the finale. And Butcher actually overpowered Homelander alongside Ryan, which really freaked Homelander out.

I guess Oh Father set an incredibly durable door. It can withstand Homelander-tier strength.

Tentacle Butcher is the character's most physically powerful version, making him stronger than Temp V Butcher. Tbh, I didn’t buy this until I watched Homelander genuinely struggle against him.

According to the script, V1 Homelander and Tentacle Butcher were at the height of their powers. No wonder Karal Urban said S5 Butcher is the most powerful, gnarly version. And Homelander was not weakened by V1, if not powered up.

So why did Butcher even need the virus anyway? He and Ryan could overpower Homelander, so if he’d gone to confront Homelander with Ryan back in Episode 3, they could’ve taken him down right then and there.

"Ultimately, the guy is an emotional wreck. He's got a healthy disdain for humanity and people that are less than him, which is kind of everyone. I think he's forever going to be a lonely dude, who wants connection but he's not going to be able to achieve it. I think he does know how to build relationships, I just think the relationships he builds are completely one-sided. Anyone who comes into his orbit has to serve him in some way, or they become superfluous... I got to say, this is one of most fun things I've ever done."

"It's a bit like when you raise a dog. You raise it badly, and the dog's going to be a little nippy and a little bitey. But if you raise it well, it's going to be a lovely family pet. I am not a lovely family pet."

"We live in a very strange time. It's an interesting time to be alive. What's going on in America with Trump... From a character perspective, I think that's relevant with my guy, Homelander, very much," says Starr. He freely admits that he did look to POTUS #45 for some character inspiration. "He's good for some elements, but the problem with him—ironically, because he is in some way, shape, form, flesh and blood—he's so one-, maybe one-and-a-half dimensional, that he's only usable for certain things."

"He's the strongest physical guy on the show, obviously, and thinks he's a god, and has got lots of issues, but also... I always took it like his kryptonite is his humanity. You need the light and the shade with any character, and I think, thankfully, we've got a cool boss and a great writing team that aren't interested in creating one-dimensional, two-dimensional characters. They all feel fleshed out, they all grow, believe it or not,"

The small eagle emblems on Homelander's suit are designed in the style of fascist eagles, to lend the suit a uniform, militaristic quality.

A dressmaker that makes prom dresses helped to build Starlight 1.0, so there's a bit of an innocence to that suit that is by design. Starlight 2.0 is basically an elevated bathing suit but is very comfortable to wear, and Erin Moriarty loves it.

Queen Maeve was meant to be evocative of a strong, female superhero that we've all grown up being inspired by, so immediately it felt right for her to be in an armored bodice.

All the custom fabrics created for A-Train's suit use a golf-ball-style aerodynamic design. They thought Vought was able to throw all their scientists at and create that transparent armor to withstand the speed with which A-Train travels.

The Deep is probably the largest departure from the books, but they kept his color scheme, for the most part.

Shannon tasked her team with figuring out the maximum number of knives that they could apply to Black Noir. There are at least 26 knives on his body, including a knife at the back of the helmet.

Like Homelander, they laid into iconography like eagles that were specific to fascist regimes. And the American flag in the way that they presented it has a hint of distress, to show that she's a bad guy.

Soldier Boy's classic iconography is like star repeat. He's got eagles emblazoned across his chest and on his shield. That's because unlike other supes might be feigning patriotism, he's a patriot.

The small eagle emblems on Homelander's suit are designed in the style of fascist eagles, to lend the suit a uniform, militaristic quality.

A dressmaker that makes prom dresses helped to build Starlight 1.0, so there’s a bit of an innocence to that suit that is by design. Starlight 2.0 is basically an elevated bathing suit but is very comfortable to wear, and Erin Moriarty loves it.

Queen Maeve was meant to be evocative of a strong, female superhero that we’ve all grown up being inspired by, so immediately it felt right for her to be in an armored bodice.

All the custom fabrics created for A-Train’s suit use a golf-ball-style aerodynamic design. They thought Vought was able to throw all their scientists at and create that transparent armor to withstand the speed with which A-Train travels.

The Deep is probably the largest departure from the books, but they kept his color scheme, for the most part.

Shannon tasked her team with figuring out the maximum number of knives that they could apply to Black Noir. There are at least 26 knives on his body, including a knife at the back of the helmet.

Like Homelander, they laid into iconography like eagles that were specific to fascist regimes. And the American flag in the way that they presented it has a hint of distress, to show that she's a bad guy.

Soldier Boy's classic iconography is like star repeat. He’s got eagles emblazoned across his chest and on his shield. That's because unlike other supes might be feigning patriotism, he's a a patriot.

Eric Kripke said at first they wanted to find an old man to play Soldier Boy, because he was supposed to be an old grizzled man. So in S3, Soldier Boy wasn't immortal and V1 didn't even exist.

Jensen Ackles looks so young that they could make Soldier Boy immortal and create V1 plotline later.

Edit: Some people reminded me that Soldier Boy could've been old before he took Compound V, then stopped aging. That actually makes sense.

As for why they wanted a man in his 50s to play a World War II hero, I think it's because Soldier Boy had intense fight scenes in S3, and it would have been quite difficult for a man in his 60s or 70s. So a man in his 50s who looks much older would have been the best option.

"Yeah, he leaves a huge body count and a bloody trail in his wake. But he's bringing down a corrupt system too, right? These Greek gods are terrible, they're nasty and capricious. And in the end, Kratos even gives mankind hope and free will! So, despite the cruelty of his methods, he's actually making the Greek world a better place."

Do you guys agree with him?

She has Homelander-level powers, so I think it's normal that many viewers want to see them fight, and even the actress thought the same. Years ago, when Kripke first said that Marie only had the potential to become the strongest, I was sure no one could see he would actually make Marie completely useless in the final season.

Why can't we all just admit that it makes no sense for Starlight to waste time taking The Deep to the beach (a place that, according to some, can make The Deep feel safe) and fighting him, when Hughie was at the White House with Homelander, the most dangerous and powerful supe? Half of episode 4 already shows us how important Hughie is to Annie, and how terrified she is for his safety. So how could she possibly waste time on Kevin?

The funny part is, whenever someone points out that Annie shouldn’t have taken Kevin to the beach, some fans hit back with "You didn’t even watch the show," or "You don’t understand basic psychology, Starlight was just trying to save him." It’s like they truly believe The Deep matters more to her than Hughie does.

Bombsight easily overpowered Butcher, who was comparable to Homelander. Since Soldier Boy is stronger than Bombsight, he should be stronger than Homelander as well.

Kimiko fainted after unleashing the power blast, so Soldier Boy was also weakened during the fight with Homelander. It meant nothing.

So why did Soldier Boy himself acknowledge that Homelander was stronger than him?