r/TheBoys

In Season 3, it took Soldier Boy, Butcher, and Hughie to hold Homelander down for a few seconds, but he overpowered them and escaped. However, in the final episode of Season 5, he suddenly struggles to escape from people much weaker than him. Even though Ryan is strong, he is still weaker than Homelander, the power scaling just doesn't make sense

When i catch you Eric kripke

This took a while but I'm quite fond of homelander's painfully human aspirations and it all brought me to coming up with this. I saw a really great comment somewhere in the finale reactions : " Homelander deserved what happened to him, but john didn't"

TELL ME WHAT YALL THINK :333

Does anyone else feel like that since the finale was actually pretty decent that his fear wasn’t realized? I also don’t really know what KIND of finale would make fans do this, but I feel like we all kind of anticipated the ending being generic/expected for a long while. It was pretty decent too, and it doesn’t atone for how abysmal the rest of the Season 5 was (Episode 1 excluded), but they wrapped up all those different plot and characters points that I thought were a mess or lost causes pretty well!

Just saw these posted a few hours ago on his official Facebook page and really wanted to share them here with everyone. It is so incredible to see the main cast together smiling like this behind the scenes, especially given how intense and crazy the finale actually was. What did you guys think of the ending and how everything wrapped up for these characters? (Make sure to click if you haven't watched yet!)

I saw a post detailing all the arcs they had to wrap up, and broadly I think they did a pretty good job of hitting all of them.

1. Butcher V Homelander: ABSOLUTE CINEMA!! It was everything I hoped it would be. The fight was amazing and A-train/Vogelbaum/Stan/butcher/soldier boy/ryan were all proven right about who Homelander really was.

2. The Future of Vought: admittedly I didn’t love this, they killed the president and somehow the company still exists? But Stan surviving and retaining control of a dying corporate empire is on-brand for the show’s tone. We don’t live in a perfect world where the bad guys lose immediately and fully all the time.

3. Ryan coming back: he came into his own during the fight and as a character, retaining the lessons from his mom about being a good person and his own man. I would’ve liked to see more of him, but his dressing down of Homelander at the beginning was fucking perfect.

4. All of the remaining boys: they all got happy endings fitting for their characters. Seeing starlight pregnant and still being a hero warmed my heart, and kimiko’s made me tear up.

5. Butcher’s ending: PEAK. He gets pushed to the edge by the destabilizing nature of the only thing he’s been working for ending and the way remnants of his normal life leaving him. And then Hughie brings him back from the edge for just long enough to kill him anyways.

6. Homelander’s lackeys: Also peak! The deep and Oh Father dying at the hands of their vices and mistakes was exceptional.

7. Gen V: admittedly wasn’t a huge fan of this either. But I loved the moment where Annie says (paraphrasing) “if we lose, then we need someone else to keep the flame. Stay golden.” So all and all it wasn’t the worst? And they still helped.

8. Soldier Boy. This is my only serious gripe. What tf happened to him? Is he still in stasis? Is vought still gonna use him? Idk, his whole arc this season was bad. I digress, not everything can be perfect.

9. Outside world: I think they did a decent job at showing how the world turns on bought and heroes as a whole once they actually see with their own eyes just how pathetic they were. People walked out as soon as they saw their golden boy broken, disgusted that they put their faith in him.

10. Sage/Ashley: very in character for sage to embrace being a dumbass. She’s wanted it for years. Would’ve preferred her to have a less happy ending for someone who’s as evil as her, but fits with the tone I think. Sometimes people who don’t deserve it get away with it.

Ashley having just enough of a soul to save the boys and get them into the White House but not enough to help and then attempting to retain power is also very in character and made me laugh hysterically when it showed up.

This season was definitely not perfect, and it had quite a few flaws, like Soldier Boy, Black Noir’s ending, the Gen V stuff being underdeveloped, and I wish that we saw more of the outside world instead of being told about it. But I think that the season was pretty good all things considered. And I think anyone saying the whole series is retroactively ruined is being unfair, even if you didn’t like the ending.

Overall, the finale wrapped up all but one of the plot lines in a satisfying way for me, and the ending message that butcher gave to hughie is the show’s whole theme. Fight evil wherever you see it, but don’t lose yourself to hatred.

What did you guys think?

I think that Kripke was so obsessed with focusing on his pathetic side just to shit on a person irl, that he discarded an otherwise really complex character and just turned him into a hollow caricature. He had SO MUCH potential that could be explored, but no, let's just make a random gag scene of an angel putting her boobs on his face and make this the most important plot point of the season, focusing on a bland religious aspect just to throw a jab at an stupid irl cult.

Long rant

TLDR: My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

I don’t really post on social media or usually care too much about tv shows or movies, but The Boys was always different for me. It is a piece of media I’ve been watching since the beginning with great interest and attention to detail.

From the first episode I knew I was hooked because of its take on the superhero genre. I was never a fan of the ‘Marvel Formula’ and my dissatisfaction with the poorly executed DCEU helped play a part.

The show made fun of everything and did it well, left or right or whatever you wanna label yourself as, there was something about everyone.

Final nail in the coffin as to why I would not be able to escape this show was the perfect casting of Homelander and Billy Butcher. Every time Antony Starr and Karl Urban were on screen, I couldn’t see actors, only the characters. Antony Starr’s portrayal of Homelander is one of the greatest performances for me overall and definitely the best villain ever.

Long before the show was only “main characters having a chat in a room or a closed off location”, there was actual world building. Public reaction, open spaces, you know, the things you need to do to make people invest in the world you build.

-Power Scaling Inconsistencies

What everyone talks about and for a very good reason. Minor inconsistencies here and there doesn’t hurt the story, but when you keep straying off from the rules you set nonstop and so obvious, it interferes with the storytelling, because it takes the viewer out of the world you are trying to get them invested in. Season 5 of the Boys might be one of the worst science fiction content I’ve seen in this case. First, A-Train moves so fast that everyone seems standing still, then he barely dodges a random lady when running at super speed, oh, he lost his super fast perception and reaction time apparently…

The entirety of the show, when Homelander takes of for flight, he is so fast that he instantly creates a sonic boom. In season 5, we see that he is even faster and has super speed and reaction time that can almost keep up with A-Train. He took a guy to space and came back in like 3 seconds. Then we look at the final fight… Pathetic. I can see the cables that were helping Antony make those slow ass leaps… Again, in season 5, lasers Kimiko in half with a quick look. final fight, laser can’t penetrate her skin apparently…

Kimiko and Butcher aren’t close to having the reaction time and speed that Homelander has. He could have disintegrated Kimiko by just flying through her or could’ve flown out of there before anyone could blink. Pointing out obvious flaws that ruin the world building, is not nitpicking.

-Expectation of the scale: a threat to the world

Homelander, and his ‘descent into madness’. Is he gonna snap or not? When is he gonna do it? The popular scene of him lasering the protesters, when I watched it for the first time, my jaw was open, he finally did it! Then it turned out to be a vision, but the tension I felt from that scene, chills. With time passing and with every character interaction, the tension kept getting built up. I was so sure that the stakes would keep getting higher and higher until we got scorched earth. Because that was what the show was obviously pointing at, a broken man-child that is a planetary threat, finally snapping and going on a rampage. That is what made me power through the series of poor creative decisions that was season 4 and 5. Ending of episode 6 made me hopeful, episode 7 pulled me back to reality, still kept hope thinking they invested all the budget to episode 8. It was on me for expecting it to be any different. No international, national or city level destruction. No military, no other countries, no public, no doing “whatever the fuck he wants”… In a room, again…

Don’t wanna keep on rambling so:

-Power of friendship bullshit scene during the final fight where Kimiko stands still and talks to Frenchie force ghost, shit was a hard watch

-Butcher’s death is super rushed, he does nothing to remaining supes and gets killed.

-Homelander before and after V1, cue the body transformation meme where nothing changes, bs plotline to promote vought rising

-Flight 37, the most important lingering plotline gets swept under the rug like it is nothing

-Vought survives with no consequences??

-Do I even need to mention the false advertising??

The show ended worse than what it used to parody, then again maybe it was the intention, 4d chess, right guys?

Message of the show: don’t mess with corporate, stay in your lane.

‘Dawn of the Seven’ movie clip had a higher budget than the final episode for sure.

In the grand scheme of things, Homelander died, without doing ANYTHING, except he talked about dick sucking and shit eating. What a fucking joke.

Scorched earth

Mildy damaged rooms, the season.

I will not be following any other media related to this world, as I have stayed for this long because of Homelander and Butcher. The creative team who has approved of the S3 final fight and the last two seasons should never be able to get a job of this caliber ever again. Either they are stupid, or they ruined their show on purpose because the actors popularity were exploding, maybe an ego thing?? Or they wanted to have their gotcha moment against us viewers, and say ‘hey look, we are a parody after all, you expected a spectacle? LOL!’. From quality satire to stupid personal politics that sucks the life out of the characters.

Rant over. I criticize this much because I cared. Might be poorly worded because I’m still pissed off. If you disagree with the things I said or I’ve missed stuff please do tell, thank you.