u/Richiedrawz

According to google; A delusion is a firmly held, fixed false belief that contradicts reality and persists despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It is not accounted for by a person's cultural or religious background and is typically a symptom of an underlying medical, neurological, or psychiatric disorder.

First. I want to start by aplogizing to this community. I came in guns blazing and it wasn't a smart thing to do. Jordan Petersons work has changed my life in a positive way, but I still have questions to some of the things he says. I have had the pleasure of experiencing the honesty of some of the members in this sub (positive and negative), and have come away with a different perspective. Although Im not here to say sorry for everything I said, because I still stand behind some of those opinions, I would still like to find answers and I still believe this is the right community to do so.

I am looking for answers and will not find them in casual mundane conversations with the people I meet at work or anywhere I go.

I have come to the conclusion that we live in a world dominated by one form of religion or another. Whether it is left leaning or right. This has lead me to be extremely careful when speaking my mind in public, if I do find myself in public. Remaining a free thinker is important to me and joining a group is a good way to have your mouth taped shut.

Why is it that religion is exempt from being understood as a mass delusion or mind virus when it has all of the characteristics of a delusion?

I have been told multiple times that I will go to hell if I reject Christ, which seems completely insane, but apparently acceptable?

There is a portrait of Jesus in my living room. I drew it myself because he is a hero from a story and I respect his character. I also have Batman on my wall.

When will the left and right wake up to the fact that they are both saying the same things in a different way? These groups are at war with each other, and I would like to avoid my wife children becoming collateral.

Please do not respond if your plan is to convert me to your religion. I was religious after discovering Jordan Petersons work and it just didnt feel true and honest making decisions based on a fantasy that have a massive impact on the narrative of reality.

I will be nice and respectful. I come humbly before you to seek answers and I understand I may not deserve them.

What is it about people that makes them want to invest so much time in delusions?

Peterson seems to dislike anime and judges the way I wear my Goku T-shirt. He says he feels embarrassed for people who wear shirts with ninja turtles on them and tells them to grow up.

Why doesnt he understand that my Goku T-shirt is the equivalent to him paying to have an icons jacket made?

Some of his favorite fictional characters are displayed on his jacket.

Does he need to grow up?

You go to work every day. You work hard and give it your best. You recieve compliments on your efficiency and you are told the quality of your work is superb. You are working in your field of study and have 20 years experience. You are passionate about serving an excellent product in the name of hospitality. Your job gives you a great paycheck and the freedom to spend time with your kids and wife. The benefits are great as well. You have a family ro feed and this job provides the ability to do so.

You also work with people who couldnt give a damn about doing a good job. They dont care to do their best. They are rewarded, though, because they have a great personal relationship with your boss. Your boss has also admitted that their work isnt the greatest, but Billy had a rough childhood and has anger issues. Hes also a recovering alcoholic. Billy is constantly swearing at people and twice a month he doesnt even bother showing up to work. He doesnt call, he just no-shows. Hes done this about 20 times this year. Does he lose his job? Nope. Does he get a write up? Nope. Does anyone do anything about Billy? Nope. Does Billy give a shit about the people he works with? You guessed it. NOPE. Hes been there for 6 years and apparently this is just his thing.

There are a few more people like Billy there, but hes the worst.

You begin to realize that your boss seems to enjoy collecting broken people due to his overwhelming need to be compassionate towards the wrong people. The workplace suffers due to this misplaced compassion, and when you attempt to speak on the issue with your boss, youre told that everyone deserves respect. You are a supervisor and your boss expects certain results, but you have to rely on a complete waste like Billy to get those results.

90% of the workload is thrown onto your back and as a result, you become resentful and your patients runs thin. Billy is being paid to freeload.

You decide to go above your boss but its the same old song and dance. You are lectured on professionalism, compassion, and respect. You are told that you are a beast at your job, but everyone is replaceable. Your boss lectures on why its important to not let egos get involved. Your boss also complains about these same people daily, but refuses to cut them loose due to the compassion. He seems more inclined to complain than to find a solution.

You make the realization that these people dont care about providing a good product and are too cowardly to do what is necessary to achieve greatness. These people pretend to like each other and stab each other in the back all the time. You listen to their petty personal arguments and they dont seem to see why they are even there in the first place.

They don't seem to understand that if they just focus on the product, if they just care about the people consuming this product, they would see. The team would form and achieve a common goal. The team would rise together and elevate the workplace for the better. It would be a better place for all. But most importantly, the customer would be happy, which is supposed to be the goal.

You are sacrificing and giving it your all, but your hard work is only being used to prop up Billy and other useless people. Billy is rewarded even though his work blows ass and hes a complete selfish, parasitic clown. He is by no means an ideal human. Hes the opposite.

Who is Cain in this scenario?

Abel?

God?

God is the customer and the product. They do not reject your work. They appreciate it and think its awesome.

You are Abel. You offer your best because you owe it to the customer and this work is a genuine part of who you are. It is your meaningful sacrifice. You are also being used to prop up Cain and God isnt aware its happening.

Billy and your boss are Cain.

Why does Cain thrive in this scenario? Why is he rewarded? Why does Abel serve under both Cain and God?

How do you create individuals who are self sacrificing, courageous, honest and hardworking in a world designed to keep you poor and desperate?

Jordan Peterson's work resonates with intelligent people, but it fails to escape the echo chamber of his fan base.

His comment sections are filled with people thanking him and blowing him, but there is a lack of true engagement. Not one fan boy who understands his work dares challenge him.

He always seems to be the victim of some kind of illness, whether its physical or mental. His daughter is convinced that spiritual warfare is at play, which is quite frankly, insane.

Why should the poor care about any of this? Do you think poor people who cant afford potatoes due to the immense greed of corrupt individuals give a fuck about any of this intellectual moral storytelling?

We aren't denying that JP is correct. We know he is.

I want to buy apples again, and Jesus doesnt seem to care.

According to JP, Jesus wants you to look inside yourself and ask "what did I do to place myself into a position where I can no longer afford apples?".

Jordan Petersons work points out a lot of problems, but doesnt actually provide any solutions. It explains the meaning of stories and their purpose, but doesnt provide any real advice when operating in a world owned and ruled by corrupt tyrants who want $13 per watermelon.

Jesus is long gone if he ever existed and the world has drastically changed due to tech.

What are we going to do about all this greed? What are we doing to make life livable and affordable for families?

Nothing, because thats not part of the plan, peasants, and Jesus isnt coming to save you.

The stupid, poor masses will tolerate this greed until they wont, and then they will do what they've always done. Riot. They wont do it because they want to make the world better. They'll do it because they too are greedy and lazy.

Jordan Petersons advice is good if you are smart enough to understand it, but history repeats itself due to the fact that not everyone agrees on what "truth" means.