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Do you think this criticism of Jordan is fair? (read comment)

This clip got 20k upvotes and thousands of responses in another subreddit, TikTokCringe.

The main criticisms of Peterson were that he pretends to be a Christian for money, that he can't answer simple questions, and that he's the smart person for dumb people.

How would you respond to these criticisms? No brigading please, read the rules.

u/TotalACast — 1 day ago

In Dearborn, Michigan, Muslims and neo-Nazis join forces and chant together: "Free Palestine, Heil H*tler!"

u/tkyjonathan — 1 day ago
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Western society is under attack.

The globalists are Satanic, and the media you consume has been compromised.

u/HeSureIsScrappy — 3 days ago

Edmund Burk's "Reflections on the Revolution in France" is surprisingly relevant for today's Left. Here are some of my fav quotes:

"The great masses therefore which excite envy, and tempt rapacity, must be put out of the possibility of danger. Then they form a natural rampart about the lesser properties in all their gradations. The same quantity of property, which is by the natural course of things divided among many, has not the same operation. Its defensive power is weakened as it is diffused. In this diffusion each man’s portion is less than what, in the eagerness of his desires, he may flatter himself to obtain by dissipating the accumulations of others. The plunder of the few would indeed give but a share inconceivably small in the distribution to the many. But the many are not capable of making this calculation; and those who lead them to rapine never intend this distribution." - Edmund Burk, "Reflections on the Revolution in France" Part I (1790)

"The science of constructing a commonwealth, or renovating it, or reforming it, is, like every other experimental science, not to be taught a priori. Nor is it a short experience that can instruct us in that practical science; because the real effects of moral causes are not always immediate; but that which in the first instance is prejudicial may be excellent in its remoter operation; and its excellence may arise even from the ill effects it produces in the beginning. The reverse also happens; and very plausible schemes, with very pleasing commencements, have often shameful and lamentable conclusions. In states there are often some obscure and almost latent causes, things which appear at first view of little moment, on which a very great part of their prosperity or adversity may most essentially depend. The science of government being therefore so practical in itself, and intended for such practical purposes, a matter which requires experience, and even more experience than any person can gain in his whole life, however sagacious and observing he may be, it is with infinite caution that any man ought to venture upon pulling down an edifice which has answered in any tolerable degree for ages the common purposes of society, or on building it up again without having models and patterns of approved utility before his eyes." - Edmund Burk, "Reflections on the Revolution in France" Part I (1790)

"It is this inability to wrestle with difficulty which has obliged the arbitrary assembly of France to commence their schemes of reform with abolition and total destruction. But is it in destroying and pulling down that skill is displayed? Your mob can do this as well at least as your assemblies. The shallowest understanding, the rudest hand, is more than equal to that task. Rage and phrenzy will pull down more in half an hour, than prudence, deliberation, and foresight can build up in an hundred years. The errors and defects of old establishments are visible and palpable. It calls for little ability to point them out; and where absolute power is given, it requires but a word wholly to abolish the vice and the establishment together." - Edmund Burk, "Reflections on the Revolution in France" Part II (1790)

"When the revenue disappears in their hands, they have the presumption, in some of their late proceedings, to value themselves on the relief given to the people. They did not relieve the people. If they entertained such intentions, why did they order the obnoxious taxes to be paid? The people relieved themselves in spite of the Assembly." - Edmund Burk, "Reflections on the Revolution in France" Part II (1790)

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u/uscmissinglink — 2 days ago
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Dating apps may be a non-clearing market: congestion, cheap signaling, and why rational behavior produces bad outcomes

I spent the last several months trying to understand why online dating appears to produce so much frustration despite giving people access to vastly more potential partners than any previous matching system.

I eventually came to think the interesting explanation isn't primarily cultural or gender-specific. It's a market-design problem.

The starting point is thickness.

Matching markets generally benefit when more participants enter because the probability of finding a compatible counterparty rises. But beyond some point thickness produces congestion: too many potential transactions, inadequate mechanisms for evaluating them, and difficulty sending credible signals through the resulting noise.

Dating apps appear to combine several features that make this unusually severe:

1. The market is heavily asymmetric.

The large heterosexual platforms have substantially more men than women. That creates scarcity on one side and congestion on the other.

The same marketplace is therefore experienced as two almost opposite products.

2. Signaling is nearly costless.

A swipe or like carries almost no cost.

When expressing interest is cheap, broadly signaling interest can become individually rational. But aggregate cheap signaling destroys information content.

The receiving side then gets more approaches but less information about which approaches represent serious intent.

3. Congestion changes selection behavior.

Experimental research on online dating has found that continued exposure to large sets of potential partners makes participants progressively more rejecting.

In randomized experiments, acceptance probability fell roughly 27% from the first potential partner shown to the last.

The options themselves weren't getting worse.

Exposure to the option set changed the decision-maker.

This is the part I find most interesting: abundance can reduce successful selection rather than improve it.

4. The scarce side adapts too.

When matches become difficult to obtain, the rational response isn't necessarily to continue evaluating every match as a potential long-term partner.

A scarce match can be reclassified into a lower-commitment interaction.

So the congested side becomes more selective while the scarce side becomes less willing to treat the matches that clear as serious candidates.

Neither side needs to be behaving irrationally or maliciously.

Each side is responding rationally to its own incentives.

Yet the aggregate market clears worse.

5. The intermediary has a peculiar objective function.

Historically, intermediaries in courtship—friends, family, community, school, church, neighborhood—had reputational exposure to the outcome.

Modern platforms largely disintermediated those institutions.

But the replacement intermediary has an unusual economic characteristic:

Its revenue is earned while the search continues.

A successful terminal match removes two customers from the market.

That doesn't require anyone inside the company to deliberately prevent successful relationships. It simply means that engagement and successful clearing point in different directions as optimization targets.

6. We therefore measure almost everything except clearing.

Dating companies can measure registrations, active users, likes, matches, conversations, retention, payers and revenue per payer with enormous precision.

What remains remarkably difficult for an outsider to determine is the obvious denominator:

What percentage of people entering the system successfully leave it because they found the durable relationship they wanted?

Hinge is the especially interesting case because the brand promise is literally Designed to Be Deleted.

Yet the public operating metrics overwhelmingly measure people remaining, returning, engaging and paying.

There is some offline feedback—Hinge's "We Met" feature can ask whether a match produced a date and whether someone wants another date—but that is very different from longitudinally measuring relationship formation, duration, permanent successful exits and reactivation after dissolution.

That brought me to a broader hypothesis:

The public "gender war" around online dating may partly be the social symptom of a market-design failure.

Two populations experience radically different sides of the same mechanism.

Both possess accurate information about their own experience.

Neither sees the system producing the other side's experience.

So each concludes that the other population is the problem.

I ended up writing a much longer piece tracing this through matching-market economics, signaling theory, behavioral psychology, the history of courtship, the disappearance of social intermediaries, and eventually the financial statements of Match Group.

The last part became a public-equity short thesis because I realized the sociology generates financial predictions.

If the underlying marketplace is structurally impaired, eventually I would expect to see:

  • payer attrition;
  • heavier monetization of the participants who remain;
  • difficulty expanding the total category;
  • growth increasingly sourced from geographic expansion rather than deeper successful adoption;
  • and eventually a lower terminal valuation for the companies operating it.

That makes the public company an interesting way of putting an otherwise difficult sociological hypothesis under an empirical clock.

The full essay and sources are here:

https://dljlevfin.substack.com/p/the-undisclosed-denominator

I'm especially interested in criticism of the behavioral mechanism rather than the stock call.

Where does the causal chain break?

Is congestion actually the right framework?

Does cheap signaling necessarily degrade matching efficiency here?

And most importantly: what metric would you use to distinguish a dating marketplace that generates enormous engagement from one that actually clears successfully?

u/Icy-Drawer5856 — 3 days ago

What if I create a philosophy to counter communism and leftism?

I dislike leftism and communism because I view it as enabling, and teaching people to be angry at successful people. My mom is conservative so I was taught not to dwell on being “underprivileged,” even for my special needs and she also avoided enabling me. She did a help me help myself approach to raising me. I don’t approve of DEI because it’s using a law to take a job away from someone who worked hard in their life. For me I would pick up a job because I actually did the hard work. To me the woke policies it’s like instead of helping a person walk on a malfunctioning leg, always holding them up as they walk, so they always have to depend on you carrying them everywhere. The homeless people have mental health issues, and they are just given money that they use to buy drugs. What I like about RFKjr, is he is letting in supplements that were previously banned by the left and unbanning it, those supplements personally helped me out a lot. What helped me with learning instead of enabling me was Eaton Arrowsmith, where instead of compensating for my lack of academic skills, it gave me puzzles that start out simple and then get harder, like Clocks, and that helped me take on something like a chapter book. What I dislike about the left is that they root for big pharma to ban non-pharma ways that can help special needs and mentally ill people, then those people don’t have ways and then they’re jobless and need to depend on random people’s tax payer dollars.

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u/SparkleLily_9874 — 2 days ago

'An Academic Is Fired Over a Medieval Painting of the Prophet Muhammad' : what do you think of it?

Btw, the painting was made by a muslim artist. The people who cancelled her are the same who would've stoned the painter. Dystopian.

Here's the full article for anyone interested :

https://newlinesmag.com/writers/christiane-gruber/


EDIT :

There's a VERY similar case that happened in France a few years ago and ended up with the teacher being killed :

In 2020, a school/HS history teacher, Samuel Paty, showed a caricature of prophet mohamed (police be upon him) in the context of a class about freedom of speech. He told students that 'if any of you doesn't want to see that image, you're allowed to close your eyes for a few seconds or leave the class for a minute. You won't be penalised'.

The next day, a muslim student of Samuel Paty (who wasn't even there for that class because she used to skip school all the time) received a temporary school expulsion due to her class-skipping habit. When her dad, Brahim Chnina, asked her why the hell she was expelled, she told him it was because her teacher showed a picture of prophet Mashallah and ordered all muslim students to leave the class (which she refused to do). That second part is litteraly unbelivable as french ppl are way too scared of offending muslims since the charlie hebdo and bataclan attacks to do anything like that.

Daddy Chnina, who was a ''respectable'' and '''moderate''' muslim (by that i mean he was never involved in any religion-related unlawful event - despite his history of verbal agressivity when we didn't get what he wanted) was very very mad about all that. But don't worry, he did what any french parent would've done in that situation : He went to the school's office, terrorised the school director and secretary by knocking aggressively to their door and yelling, continued to knock and yell until these 2 women (who had locked themselves in a room out of fear) opened him the door and then, once he was in, pressured them into alerting the minister of education that one of their teachers engaged in a 'violation of republican school's laïcity'. Father Chnina also published Samuel Paty's name, school's name and alleged crime on a facebook group for moderate muslims.

Turns out one of these '''moderates''', Abdoulillah Something, was a 18yo tchetchen aspiring-terrorist (whose dad had btw, been expelled from France due to conjugal violence). He choose Samuel as his 1rst victim. A few days later, he stabbed Samuel 19 times with a knife and then beheaded him. The doc who examined Samuel's body couldn't tell if he was already dead when he was beheaded.

Daddy Chnina was sentenced to 13 years of jail (meaning that he would've been released after 2 months with a slap on the wrist) and he somehow still had the audacity to appeal of the decision. In 2026, he was finally sentenced to 10 years of jail. In other words, he'll be released in no time for good behaviour.

u/Practical-Goose666 — 4 days ago
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Just so we're clear.... This is not normal😑👇🏻

This is what Hollywood does to those who sell their soul…

u/TeamHumanity12 — 5 days ago

So in Brave New World, the world state citizens are “calm,” and coldhearted and John demands them to be passionate, how does a society end up this way?

Calm and coldhearted is like the people don’t get angry, sad, fearful, but they act cold by cold shouldering those who do not fit in like Bernard. Dostoevsky‘s view is when people try to engineer a utopia, you try to control their flaws, but that removes the ability for humans to create beautiful things and experience deep meaning. People are argue it is because of conformity culture or cancel culture. I’m saying some people have these criticisms of Japan not absolutely true of Japan, but that Japan is surface level polite, but rude to Koreans or the disabled.

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u/SparkleLily_9874 — 2 days ago

Help me with my Big 5 Results

Agreeableness 57
Extraversion 16
Conscientiousness 41
Openness 41
Neuroticism 82
Politeness 71
Industriousness 6
Orderliness 88
Enthusiasm 13
Assertiveness 26
Withdrawal 96
Volatility 48
Intellect 47
Aesthetics 38

(21M) I deal with a lot of negative emotion. More so anxiety and dread than anger. I've always gotten good in school, but never had the ability to handle responsibility to really excel or do multiple things at once.

I struggle deeply to maintain relationships outside of my family, often seeing them as "useless" because I always tell myself I'm too busy building and working but never seem to actually get anything done.

I have an intense desire for delayed gratification, wanting to get rich so I never have to work again and actually get to enjoy life later, yet the neuroticism makes it hard to do that, creating a vicious cycle.

All in all things could be much worse but I'm still in a lot of psychological pain and not sure how to change that, now or in the future. Any help or analysis would be appreciated.

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u/According-Key7322 — 3 days ago

Islam is the grandest of all colonial powers ever. Fifty-seven countries today are part of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation each of which was once 0% Muslim. (@GadSaad)

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u/antiquark2 — 5 days ago