u/RoseIsBadWolf

Lost You Forever: Tushan Jing's story is about a superpower that is also a fatal flaw

I see so many people call Tushan Jing "weak" or say he's leading Xiao Yao on when that is not what is happening at all in his story or Lost You Forever. Tushan Jing is kind despite his trauma and this is both what Xiao Yao loves about him, but also the reason he just cannot free himself from his engagement.

All four main characters, Xiao Yao, Cang Xuan, Tushan Jing, and Xiang Liu, go through some sort of massive trauma, it turns three of them into fairly ruthless people, especially Cang Xuan. Tushan Jing is the only one who retains kindness and he even decides to forgive (but not forget) what his own brother did to him. Xiao Yao loves him specifically because he is kind, she doesn't want the typical male lead who is only nice to one person (both CX and XL) because as she so very correctly points out, if he falls out of love with her, he'd be cruel to her too. She wants her fox boy who is nice to everyone:

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The problem though is she abandons Tushan Jing to a problem he cannot fix, and she knows this! I don't blame Xiao Yao, because she's got her own issues, but she fully admits she knew Tushan Jing would lose and didn't help him. She also never even told TSJ that his fiance was a murderer. He only saw Fangfeng Yiying's nice perfect daughter-in-law side, XY knew that FFYY tried to assassinate CX:

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There are a bunch of reasons, all clear in the story, why Tushan Jing can't get out of his engagement and why his family won't let him:

  1. He agreed to the marriage originally, to the point that he was kidnapped on his wedding day, so he can't even deny wanting it in the first place

  2. The marriage was a deathbed arrangement by his mother

  3. Fangfeng Yiying spent 10 years being the perfect daughter-in-law (and then an extra 37 coma years). Importantly, public perception sees this as love and the Tushan family really cares about their reputation (they are merchants, this makes sense). If the Tushan family suddenly threw her back, they would look like MASSIVE jerks. Even worse, FFYY comes from a lower status family, so if they suddenly threw her back and then TSJ married a princess, the Tushan family would look like even bigger, social-ladder-climbing, greedy jerks

  4. If TSJ had come home and immediately exposed his brother, it wouldn't help break the engagement because FFYY had nothing to do with that and no one knows about the affair.

  5. Grandma said no. Extra context: I know Cdrama grandmas love to say that they are dying if their grandchildren won't obey, but Grandma Tushan is certifiably dying. In the novel, she artificially extends her life until TSJ wakes up from the coma and has very little time left.

So what can he do? He tries to pay FFYY off (which she rejects) and he tries to convince his family. Unfortunately Grandma loves FFYY because she's been playing perfect daughter for decades and won't agree. The only other options are:

  1. Kill FFYY. This is the easiest and TSJ could do it, I think two people also offer to do it for him, but here we have his perspective in the way. He doesn't know FFYY is an assassin or that she's sleeping with his brother. She plays a part in front of him of perfect fiance/daughter-in-law. He has zero justification to kill her except wanting to marry Xiao Yao. However, if he did, he'd be as ruthless as Cang Xuan and then Xiao Yao wouldn't like him anymore so this gets him nowhere. It is the ultimate Catch 22.

  2. Give up all ties to the Tushan family. This would work, but there is a secondary problem which is that Xiao Yao is a princess. (She only reclaimed her identity as a princess to help her cousin CX and TSJ also helps CX for that reason) Tushan Jing qualifies (barely) to marry a princess, but without being the heir to a powerful and rich family, it's not really socially sensible (though we know the King of Haoling would allow it, Grandpa King would probably allow it but Cang Xuan might prevent it.) Anyway, TSJ does offer to do this at least twice, but XY herself tells him not to. It's not an option until the very end when his nephew takes over the family because they refuse to make his brother heir.

So to sum up, Tushan Jing can't break the engagement for many reasons, but mostly because if he something did dishonourable, he would become someone that Xiao Yao hates. The thing she loves about him, his kindness, is what makes it impossible for him to be with her.

Anyway, you don't have to like Tushan Jing, I think the drama did a disservice to his character by not showing him as witty and fun once he wasn't severely depressed. And I think structurally, the story front-loads a lot of his really good scenes and then at the end of the story we see more cool stuff from XL. But he's not weak! If choosing kindness was easy, he wouldn't be the only one who did it.

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u/RoseIsBadWolf — 13 hours ago
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Elizabeth's raction to the letter is so real

Alt text: It is so human and so not romance novel that after Elizabeth Bennet in Pride & Prejudice reads Mr. Darcy's letter and accepts that Wickham was the real villain and not him, her reaction is not, "Oh no, I loved and lost him!" it's "Oh shit, I fucked up! I hope I never see that man again in my entire life."

Actual quote: His attachment excited gratitude, his general character respect: but she could not approve him; nor could she for a moment repent her refusal, or feel the slightest inclination ever to see him again. In her own past behaviour, there was a constant source of vexation and regret: and in the unhappy defects of her family, a subject of yet heavier chagrin.

u/RoseIsBadWolf — 3 days ago

Novel Adaptations in 2026, my thoughts

2026 so far is 1/4 for Cdrama novel adaptations for me and I'm starting to regret that I can read. Vague spoilers ahead

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How Dare You!? - brilliant, got the characters and tone perfect, only made minor cuts to the ending and assassination. Didn't focus as much on how the ML thinks everyone is fake but otherwise extremely faithful and enjoyable. This made me so excited for the next three...

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Generation to Generation - changed the tone completely, which I suspected from the trailer but I tried to have hope. The novel is a comedy and both of the leads are best described as Chaos Gremlins. The drama made both the ML and FL less chaotic, erased almost all their bickering, and made the ML more toxic. The FL was so boring that I didn't even understand why the ML liked her so much. It was a strange uncanny valley sort of feel because the scenes from the novel were there, but they felt completely different. Dropped at Ep 28.

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Pursuit of Jade - From Ep 1 -24, I loved the slight changes from the novel and I was so excited to watch every morning. Then somehow the FL started to get dumber and way more arrogant. The ML was reduced to a cameo role. The show seemed absurdly focused on a "couple" who got barely any page time in the novel (Qi Min/Yu Qianqian). Instead of giving Fan Changyu a montage of progress in the army, she was reduced to a political pawn. Instead of an epic breakup, we had a vague situationship and a whipping scene that made so little sense I was furious. The FL kept wanting to go back to this dumb town that hated her. Utterly disappointed, I limped to the next adaptation...

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Love Beyond the Grave - started out very strong again, but then turned a minor character into a major villain and gave him way too much screen time. Underpowered the FL and inserted a random 5 year separation that undermined the relationship of the mains. When they followed the novel, it was great, when they didn't it was boring to disastrous. The ending official ending made so little sense (the five minute extra mostly fixes it but why is that not the "real" ending) and there were so many great scenes from the novel they could have included but didn't.

I don't totally mind if an adaptation isn't faithful, I loved Love of the Divine Tree and it's not that close to the novel at all, but these half done ones are killing me. Pursuit of Jade especially felt like it had completely different writers in the second half. It suddenly varied from the novel a lot, but then they would stick in random scenes from the novel that didn't fit with the changes they made. Either write your own story or don't, you can't sew your own story and the novel one together like some sort of weird Frankenstein monster!

Links to fan translations all the novels in case you want to read: How Dare You!?, Love Beyond the Grave, A Decade of Nightscape Lights (G to G), and Chasing Jade (Pursuit of Jade)

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u/RoseIsBadWolf — 7 days ago