u/Routine-Project-6575

conditioning, reading oponent habits, and punishing defensive options in 2xko

I play Ekko and since he is the only character capable of feinting moves and changing thing a move into another, almost instantaneously,

being capable of reading your oponent and punishing the ways in which they respond to you actions is IMO one of the best ways to improve when it comes to mixups, but i dont know how i should learn that better, since whenever i watch high level gameplay i see them making certain mistakes and not being able to identify certain options in their oponents habits, but i dont want to be pretentious and think i know more than them, i want to check the knowledge i hold and fix it, seeing if its better or worse

Hey everyone! I have a fantasy romance story concept and I want to know if this dynamic would work as a webtoon. Let me lay it out.

The Setup:

A prince and a noblewoman marry in a political alliance. As part of the ceremony, they exchange an amulet that both the king and queen hold during their rule.

The prince becomes king and spends his time loving and revering the queen. But the queen spends most of her time ignoring or mistreating him, because the marriage was one of political alliance and she had to lose the love of her life to marry him.

Later, a coup happens. The king spent too much time thinking about his queen, so he didn't see the cracks in his rule.

They flee and go live in a secluded place. In this secluded place, their dynamic stays the same. The queen now has an extra resentment toward the king because she believes the coup happened because of him. The king is holding on to the only thing he has left after losing everything he worked for his entire life.

One day, they are found and killed by assassins sent to track the previous king and queen. The amulet they both held glows from their dead bodies.

The Dreamscape:

Each of them goes to a separate dreamscape, where the amulet talks to them separately and asks:

"What was your biggest regret?"

The King states:
"Making the queen my wife and consequently neglecting my kingdom, as I made her resent me during our entire marriage for I took her from the love of her life. I realized way too late that the love that she could harbor could never be towards me, and putting her in such a position for so many years has made her hate me. If I get the chance, I want to make sure that she lives a happy life, even if she must live away from me, and dedicate the rest of my life to making sure I run a perfect kingdom."

The Queen states:
"Treating the king as I did. I spent most of my life dreaming of marrying another, the same one that was taken from me because of a marriage that was planned eons before our birth and that was outside of the control of each of us. Yet despite the arrangement, he spent his entire rule making me his first priority, even to the detriment of his rule. Even when everything was lost, he believed it was okay because he had me by his side. I want to repay him and become a good wife to the man that gave everything to me even as everything fell apart."

The Regression:

They finally get an opportunity to turn back in time to before the coup or anything else happens. They meet each other in what each of them believes to be a pivotal moment in their story, one that they remember very well, too well:

The King's Coronation.

They both look into each other's eyes in shock, but they make completely different decisions from that moment onwards.

The New Dynamic:

The King becomes suspicious. He sees every single person that comes across him as a potential orchestrator for the coup. And as he sees the queen's behavior having changed severely, he believes even she could have been part of the coup, as well as the reason why they were assassinated later.

The Queen becomes surprised and suspicious as well. She sees the king look at her with dead eyes and do every possible measure to distance himself from her, giving her leeway, freedoms, independence, and responsibilities that intentionally push them further and further away from each other. She starts suspecting that he could have been regressed too, as the amulets are identical to one another. But the reveal of such magic within their amulets could make it coveted by the same people that organized the coup.

The Irony:

So you have a story of:

• A king who is resentful of the queen and the way that he was treated in his past life. He wants to distance himself as much as possible from her, as he believes that the love he held for her meant nothing and that the best he can possibly do is let her go and allow her to be happy, far away from him.
• A queen who mistreated probably the only person who truly loved her over the years and stuck by her till death did them part. She is trying to finally love that person and treat them correctly after years of mistreatment and abuse from her part. But she sees that same person treat them marginally differently to how they did in their past life.

Why I think it could work as a webtoon:

• Regression trope with a twist: both go back, but they don't know the other did too.
• Dramatic irony: the readers know both sides, but the characters don't.
• Two opposing arcs happening simultaneously (him pulling away, her reaching out).
• High emotional stakes with political tension in the background (the coup is still coming).
• Visual potential: the coronation flashback, the amulet glowing, dead-eyed stares vs. desperate longing.

My questions for you:

1. Would you read this? Why or why not?
2. How long would you want the "they don't know the other regressed" tension to last before the reveal?
3. What art style would suit this best? Darker and moody, or brighter with sharp emotional contrast?
4. Any tropes you'd want to see avoided?

Thanks for reading! Let me know your honest thoughts.

I understand that the comercialization and "for profit" structure of the weebtoon space makes it so the main character must be relatable at least in apearence to the audience that is trying to read it, which one would understand to a point, if that wasnt EVERYTHING THEY DO

Tall dark haired MC is the most common thing i have ever seen across the last few years

And the blonde ones are just a diferent flavor same result

for the first time in while, i really want to see a webtoon with a BALD MC, where the initial perception you hold of him is neither subversion nor improvement, but that you must acompany them to see what kind of person they are

which i know, i know, its impossible what i'm asking for, but maybe somebody has some recomendations?

I understand that the comercialization and "for profit" structure of the weebtoon space makes it so the main character must be relatable at least in apearence to the audience that is trying to read it, which one would understand to a point, if that wasnt EVERYTHING THEY DO

Tall dark haired MC is the most common thing i have ever seen across the last few years

And the blonde ones are just a diferent flavor same result

for the first time in while, i really want to see a webtoon with a BALD MC, where the initial perception you hold of him is neither subversion nor improvement, but that you must acompany them to see what kind of person they are

which i know, i know, its impossible what i'm asking for, but maybe somebody has some recomendations?

a deep guide that goes over a character which would include:
- character guide
- combos with advantages and downsides
- tips against all characters as well as specific responses to certain moves
-Specific team guides
-Character statistics and game based study
-Tournament results and popularity patch per patch

What are some videos and even players i should study for a good example of ekko mix?

Ekko goes back in time.
Ahri reads minds.

Ekko can be fresh from a reset with all the information on how you're going to move, what you're going to do, and how you're going to do it. And Ahri can move accordingly, as well as knowing everything that you are planning to do—plus your motives and more.

Hell, words are useless against these two.

You can have one of them cornered, about to be taken out, just for the other to block it without looking, on reflex—like they knew what you were going to do, what you did, and more.

Don't even make me think about how an interrogation would look. They ask you a question, and Ahri immediately knows the answer. Hell, if they have limited time for the interrogation, Ekko can just rewind to have more time and extract all possible info from you.

Damn. Yasuo and Warwick really had no chance.

Oh, where do I begin?

Let me start by saying: this isn't all of Webtoons. But it's such a large percentage that it's horrible to see. This is based purely on what I've watched and read over the years. If there are exceptions, please recommend them. I'm sick of harem-like MCs everywhere. I can't find a good slow burn that isn't just two awkward people staring at each other.

**1. Women written flatly, just to serve a role**

I keep seeing this: a battle-hardened, traumatized woman fights through a revolution. Years of struggle, war ends, she feels out of place. Then, with a few words, the MC dismantles all her trauma. It feels cheap, badly written, and deeply disrespectful. Trauma isn't clickbait. Overcoming it takes consistent effort, good days and bad, not a speech.

Also, her backstory rarely matches how she acts.

And every single time, she has to fall in love for her character arc to feel complete. That pisses me off. Why are so many women doormats for spineless men? The MC has had advances from you and 500 other women, yet he's never made a choice or shown interest. Grow a spine and move on.

And that's when they can express feelings without being a tsundere who physically hits the MC for noticing she likes him. Or the trope where a girl changes everything about herself to please the MC, but the story never uses that to show her learning to love herself without him telling her to.

I recently read Primal Hunter, the first manhwa where the MC actually reflects and admits he was wrong for raging, without being self-righteous. I want more of that. A character who acts, reflects on how it affects others constructively, and just asks instead of assuming.

**2. All women must be beautiful and cannot be monstrous**

You're telling me this high level combatant, capable of lifting mountains, has to have a slim waist and the face of a model to be relevant in the story? Men can be as beautiful or as ugly as they want because their worth is not tied to their image. But women in the exact same field of work are completely incapable of being scarred, muscular, ugly, or monstrous.

Why must the lycanthrope always have prominently female features that have to be dainty and fragile? We see monsters. The male ones are beasts of horror in every way. Then we see the female ones that just look like human women doing cosplay.

And in romance, I have never seen a relationship between two average regular individuals without one of them having a power imbalance. Bro, just give me a story where John meets Maria and they slowly like each other without either of them being particularly amazing or extraordinary. CEO x secretary, boss x subordinate, poor x rich, and so many other tropes. I just think, why can't any of these characters have flaws that are accepted between them? Why does every single member have to be perfect? And even those flaws should have some mitigation.

**3. Women must have a romantic relationship for their arc to be complete, always**

I dislike women always needing to be a sexual or romantic object for them to be relevant in the story.

**4. TL;DR**

Webtoons consistently write women as flat, trauma-cured-by-the-MC, impossibly beautiful (never monstrous or scarred), and unable to complete a character arc without a romantic relationship. Men can be ugly or flawed; women cannot. I want stories with average-looking characters, mutual flaws, slow burns without power imbalances, and women who grow on their own without being sexual or romantic objects.

Women deserve better representation

I love 2xko, its the first time i had the capability to experience fighting games without having to invest much money, with simple inputs and easy characters, i loved how friendly the whole game was to me a new player, i never felt abandoned or that there was a gap between characters so big it couldnt be beat, i love Ekko amd finding his specific character type. (fast+weapon+teleport+mixup+good projectile)(finn multiversus+victor chevalier tk8+noctis tk7)

And i wish this game had any staying power but from what i see there are so many issues that are not being adressed fast enough and the advertisement for this game is so abysmaly non existant that i'm surprised i knew it was gonna release and therefore played the beta

I have experienced this before with multiversus, where a company with one of the most sucessfull and interesting ip's of all time performs a milenial fumble because of bad management from people that dont experience the game they play.

I wish i could say things are going to change but hell, the way they advertise skins for a handfull of characters to make them as expensive as hollow knight silksong, puts of so many people that i know are not going to be making enough money for the money hungry bastards that we call "shareholders", to not pull the plug on this game

Ill enjoy this while i can but i just know i'm going to miss 2xko man

And the fandom doesnt make it easier, i've seen people who play this religiously spend their time doing nothing but slandering the game

TL;DR: I'm broke, i love this game, i wish it got better