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12 Monkeys S01E10 Divine Move Discussion (and announcement)

Hello travelers. Today we are diving into episode 10. First off, apologies for the late post. This was supposed to go up yesterday, but work and life got in the way. I also noticed we have some new viewers joining our discussions lately. Starting next episode, I will post two separate threads: one for rewatchers and one for first-time viewers so there a thread for a spoiler-free space to talk. Thanks to everyone who has been commenting so far, reading your thoughts has been great

What I Loved

Ramse is pure gold. "You lying to me?" lights out "Yeah." Putting Adler out of the fire's reach was a solid touch, too

Fantastic timing, Cole. Hilarious

Peters' journal gave a name to the Night Room corpse: the Annapurna Remains. Annapurna is a region in the Himalayas where plenty of climbers meet their end

Green to red

"What does it matter if you are successful?" "Because getting Ramse killed can't be the last thing I do here." Well... 😅

Jennifer, you beautiful lunatic

"I can do it alone, but I don't want to." Cassie you manipulative bitch, I love it

"You are a good friend." "Not yet, but will be." Hits every time

No straight lines

Somebody, someday, will judge us for what we have done

That scene of Peters begging to be killed is heartbreaking

"I promised my son I'd always protect him. I can't do it now, I'll do it then."

"Helping to destroy the world to save one person?" On this rewatch, it instantly brings to mind: "There may come a day when a single life for seven billion is one too many. Consider this then: save the one."

"James. We are out of time." Talk about cranking up the stakes

Nitpicks

Not many here. Aaron continues to go the wrong way, and being an asshole all the same, no fucking clue what Cassie saw on him. Minor details like container yard security issues. Max's death felt a bit flat, and Ramse's "it is what it is" line to his son felt cold, but overall this was a strong hour

8.5/10

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u/SchattenJaggerD — 4 days ago

12 Monkeys S01E09 Tomorrow Discussion

Hi travelers. Today we discuss episode 9, “Tomorrow.” As usual, this post is tagged SPOILER so new witnesses of the show can be aware of it

What I Loved

First off, what an excellent continuation to the last episode. The stakes are sky high the entire time, especially around the Spearhead plot. The interactions between Jones and Foster are nothing short of astonishing. They feel like long-time friends sitting on opposite sides of a spectrum, one desperately looking back to the past while the other is desperately trying to move forward. I don’t know why it reminded me of the tension between Ramses and Moses in The Prince of Egypt. Excellent acting on both sides

Second, Jennifer going crazy as always. Not once in this entire show have I disliked watching her on screen

On my first rewatch, >!Cassie’s hair was one of the first things I noticed compared to the final season. Later in S04, she gets that white streak in her hair caused by a paradox. Seeing that exact white streak already present here is such a cool piece of foreshadowing. Aside from that, the way she says "you were erased" while looking at Cole, I always felt like a subtle hint that the writers had the ending planned out from this early on!<

Gotta admit too, Elena picking locks was pretty cool

Nitpicks

You would think security at Spearhead would be a bit more present. Not to mention the sudden sound of gunshots inside the mansion would at least alert half the people living there

Overall, this is one of my favorite episodes, mostly because it was the first time I caught a major piece of foreshadowing on my rewatch

Solid 9/10 for me

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u/SchattenJaggerD — 9 days ago

12 Monkeys S01E08 Yesterday Discussion

Hello travelers. Today it’s turn for episode 8 of season 1.

What I loved:

Cassie’s watch at the beginning is a good clue that it isn’t over. I mean, we know, but it’s an eerie shot that the character don’t realize

Spearhead’s story has always seen so tragic to me. 20 years finding a cure is insane. And the coup was crazy. Also, from the first watch I was glad to see the actor who played Colonel Foster. He was Red John in The Mentalist so it was nice to see him again

Elena and Ramse… so cute. And the source of everything that goes wrong with him hahaha

“I’m not getting involved in this. A lot of life are at stake and you guys are having a dick-measuring contest” Ramse, always real and eloquent

That scene with Jones and Foster, ufff amazing acting

It was a very good misdirection the shots of Cassie reaching Chechnya and Cole getting out of the rubble only to realized he jumped forward two years and Cassie seeing only the ruins. And that last shot of the world dying was heavy

Nitpicks

How the fuck Aaron got a meeting with Royce?

After so many years, where at they getting the gas for those trucks? Hahahaha

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u/SchattenJaggerD — 14 days ago

12 Monkeys 1x07 The Keys Discussion

Hello travelers. Today we discuss episode 7 of season 1, The Keys.

What I loved:

I don’t have too much to break down for this episode, except that I was completely engaged with the plot the entire time. Everything from the gathering where Cole and Cassie dance to the Chechnya situation and Wexler knowing about the Army had me hooked. I also loved the funny little moments, like Cassie asking why Cole got hit while he obviously lies to hide his deteriorating health. On top of that, the show keeps building on its lore and how causality works, like when Cole explains to Cassie how he is already in Chechnya and how everything has technically already happened for him, even if it hasn't happened for her and Aaron yet

That "last" phone call between Cassie and Cole was so intense, too. It was great seeing it come full circle at the end when she asks him where he would like to be, remembering that he mentioned The Keys earlier

Nitpicks:

Honestly, I don’t think I have nitpicks for this episode. Maybe just the rock that killed the hitman. It was almost cartoonish

9.5/10 for me

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u/SchattenJaggerD — 18 days ago

12 Monkeys S01E06 “The Red Forest” Discussion

Hello travelers. Today we are discussing episode 6, “The Red Forest”

What I loved:

Cole traveling to this alternate reality was intriguing. The way the plot moves around the idea of a Schrödinger's** **timeline, and Jones face of disbelief when Cole mentions that she, once, crack the code to time travel

Ramse being scared of Cole’s ghost was hilarious. His face of “nah, the fuck is this?”

Aaron’s face when Cole mention Operation Troy was a nice touch. It could have served as the bridge for him to help the cause, but ultimately made him take the wrong choices trying to “save” Cassie. And himself

“What’s 911?”

“Show me where the safety is on this thing” Bruh

First official mention of the Red Forest. Ngl, first time watching, I was like “amm okay?” Because I didn’t think it was something important, just the drugs and the way the 12s messed with people’s heads. It ended up being too important on later seasons. To this date, every rewatch, hearing the poem and knowing WHERE that place and moment is… chills, absolute chills

This is the second time we see the witness. Firsts with Jennifer, now with Cassie

Cole returning to his timeline, laughing, probably Jones thought like “oh god, I made him insane”

“I missed your loving arms” hahaha just kiss already

That last scene of Jones and Cole talking about how time was gonna take what it’s owed… damn. “Is it enough?”

“It has to be”

Nitpicks:

Seriously, why aren’t more guards everywhere? Hahaha

I guess the showrunners didn’t have a clear picture of what the Witness was gonna look like because this first version we saw in the other episode and this one has a gas mask, like the ones used at the First Gathering of the Faithful. It’s later reworked for the version we ended up having, so in every rewatch I can’t but notice it

So that’s it for me. Amazing episode, very entertaining. 8.5/10

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u/SchattenJaggerD — 23 days ago

12 Monkeys S01E05 “The Night Room” Discussion

Hello travelers. Today it’s time to witness the 5 episode of season 1, The Night Room

What I loved

The pre splinter party was a brief moment of people just existing, and the sudden revelation of Jones’ marriage was like a shock back to reality, that the world died before their eyes

“I’m from the apocalypse. Everything here looks weird”. Cole keeping it real hahaha

“Oh that’s not good”

First mention of >!the poem of season 4, the serpent eating its own tail!<

During the first watch, two things that happened during the episode in mind was that the origin of the virus was someone who Jones sent back, because that’s what Jones said while the show is reveling the “precursor”, the corpse. But also, the episode before, Cole kind got a headache or something while watching himself during the W7 attack, and he also got it while being close to the corpse, which led me to believe Cole was that corpse. Of course now we know the truth, but at the time I thought it was a nice touch to misdirect the audience about being this or that

Jennifer… is crazy. Cassie’s “wow” after Jennifer’s monologue was hilarious. “But never specifying which one” “All the Markridge boys are coming with their guns” “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” “I cannot tell a lie, so I told you half a truth”

The interaction between Jones and Ramse was very tense, and to me exposed the show’s core dilemma: what are we willing to do, what are we willing to ignore, what are we willing to sacrifice, to erase the past and save the future?

“Did you just unlocked the door?” I saw that the first time while I was drinking and I spat everything, while putting my hands on my head in disbelieve

That ending thou… damn

Nitpicks

Probably security, like everywhere. No way a black lab has that little security, or doesn’t sent word as soon as they hear shots, or whatever. Security around Jones room, maybe just 1 guard?

Excellent episode in my opinion. Excellent cliffhanger in the end. For me, a 9/10

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u/SchattenJaggerD — 27 days ago

S01E04 "Atari" Discussion

Hello travelers. Today we discuss episode 4 of season 1.

What I loved:

For me, this is the episode that completely cements the rules the first few episodes were building up. It specifically demonstrates how causality works in this universe, and it is brilliant to watch unfold

I laughed so hard when neither Cole or Ramse could kill the doggo. “We are gonna die” hahaha

Ramsey, The Blonde Devourer

My first watch I’m not gonna lie, I got confused by how the whole West 7 assault played out, and even got a little angry thinking Ramse had died, but after Cole splintered and saw the rest of the episode, I was convinced the show could have a good story to tell. I wasn’t expecting a lot, to be honest, I mean it’s not like SYFY is known for writing. I wasn’t expecting season 2 to 4, damn

Cassie is incredibly resourceful. Single-handedly tracking down the Night Room is honestly impressive

Nitpicks:

I still feel like the actress playing Max is not quite selling it. Jones can feel a bit stiff at certain moments too, and the same goes for Whitley. Also, what the hell do you mean a machine gun like that can’t completely pierce a damn truck? And if it actually can’t, just shoot the damn tires hahaha

And that covers it for me. Today is a very strong episode. At the time it aired, it was dragging the weaknesses of the first three episodes along with it, so it really needed to change the dynamic and pull the show out of that slump. I think it manages to do exactly that and finds a much better direction for the story

9/10 for me

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u/SchattenJaggerD — 1 month ago

S01E03 Discussion

What I Loved

It has been a while since my last rewatch, and I totally forgot how early this episode hints at Cassie getting comfortable with Cole. That moment when he touches her while teaching her how to shoot… Cole has rizz hahaha

That line, "It is not every day you see the building you are going to die in," is just brilliant. It hits so hard

Jones arguing with her team about the jumps is excellent world-building. Explaining why they cannot just go back to the exact same time because of paradoxes sets up the rules early and makes sense

Cassie's mental state here is a wonderful touch. She is losing her mind because of what Cole told her a year prior. Seeing all those sick people, the chaos, the feel of urgency, her journey is tragic because everyone around her thinks she is completely crazy

The scene outside the tents adds so much weight to their relationship. Cole looked at her at her lowest point, with the guilt of knowing he caused it

On my first watch… Cole, you motherfucker. But after rewatching a lot of time, I’ve come to the conclusion that the writers' try to made it seem that Cole realized Henri never made it off the island because he was killed. Since Cole knew how and when Henri died, and knew the Army of the 12 Monkeys never found the Night Room during that time, he connected the dots and realized he was the one who had to kill Henri

Deacon, my man. Although brief, I liked his introduction at the end. Also, knowing the end, I always wonder if this Deacon of season 1 knew his cycle already

Nitpicks

Here is my main issue with this episode. It feels like the show is trying to be two different things at the same time. Many here know that before this was a TV show, the creators wrote a completely different story called Splinter. Later on, they had to squeeze the 12 Monkeys movie plot into their original idea. In this episode, I think those two different ideas are fighting each other. The conversations feel a bit messy because of this mix. The show seems a little lost, which is why I think a lot of people I show this to get confused here. It makes sense why this is the lowest rated episode of the entire series

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u/SchattenJaggerD — 1 month ago

S01E02 “Mentally Divergent” Discussion

Hi again guys. Today’s discussion goes to episode 2 of season 1.

What I loved:

Katrina explanation about Cole meeting Cassie, explaining that her involvement CAN mess up with time, because if anything happens outside of what already happened, Cassie could be unable to send the message that starts everything. The first time I saw the episode I thought that was a good exposition. I discovered later that this episode was written by Natalie Chaidez, so now it makes sense.

Jennifer’s introduction is cool. Her craziness is amazing, Emily Hampshire sells it so freaking good. ”Give me yellow” was such a good call back in season 4

The Pale Man… fuck THAT’S how you introduce a mysterious antagonist

Aaron Stanford and Kirk Acevedo have an amazing chemistry as brothers. I loved their wit and every interaction feels like two people who have known each other for years

Nitpicks:

A bit of a slow continuation to the pilot. The North Korea bit I thought wasn’t really necessary, but I guess it establish two things: the difficulty of Jones to calibrate the machine and the ability they have to slingshot from the past, which would be used later in the season and the rest of the series

8/10 for me

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u/SchattenJaggerD — 1 month ago

12 Monkeys Watch Schedule (July 2026 - January 2027)

Hi guys. A few days ago, u/RxR8D_ [posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/12Monkeys/s/zMEGczIR8I) about other subreddits hosting community rewatches for older TV shows. In that thread, I proposed a timeline that reverses the show's history: starting on July 6th (the anniversary of the series finale) and wrapping up on January 15th (the anniversary of the series premiere)

In my last post, u/BlorpyRobot asked if there was an official schedule for episode discussions, so I put this together. This is completely casual, optional, and community-driven. Anyone is welcome to jump in, watch along at their own pace, or skip around. There is no official "host" or strict assignment for making thread, anyone can post the discussion thread for an episode when the day arrives

The schedule alternates between 4 and 5-day intervals so we can neatly fit the double and triple-episode blocks at the very end. Here are the dates:

* Season 1, Episode 01 - July 6, 2026
* Season 1, Episode 02 - July 10, 2026
* Season 1, Episode 03 - July 15, 2026
* Season 1, Episode 04 - July 19, 2026
* Season 1, Episode 05 - July 24, 2026
* Season 1, Episode 06 - July 28, 2026
* Season 1, Episode 07 - Aug 2, 2026
* Season 1, Episode 08 - Aug 6, 2026
* Season 1, Episode 09 - Aug 11, 2026
* Season 1, Episode 10 - Aug 15, 2026
* Season 1, Episode 11 - Aug 20, 2026
* Season 1, Episode 12 - Aug 24, 2026
* Season 1, Episode 13 - Aug 29, 2026

* Season 2, Episode 01 - Sept 2, 2026
* Season 2, Episode 02 - Sept 7, 2026
* Season 2, Episode 03 - Sept 11, 2026
* Season 2, Episode 04 - Sept 16, 2026
* Season 2, Episode 05 - Sept 20, 2026
* Season 2, Episode 06 - Sept 25, 2026
* Season 2, Episode 07 - Sept 29, 2026
* Season 2, Episode 08 - Oct 4, 2026
* Season 2, Episode 09 - Oct 8, 2026
* Season 2, Episode 10 - Oct 13, 2026
* Season 2, Episode 11 - Oct 17, 2026
* Season 2, Episode 12 - Oct 22, 2026
* Season 2, Episode 13 - Oct 26, 2026

* Season 3, Episode 01 - Oct 31, 2026
* Season 3, Episode 02 - Nov 4, 2026
* Season 3, Episode 03 - Nov 9, 2026
* Season 3, Episode 04 - Nov 13, 2026
* Season 3, Episode 05 - Nov 18, 2026
* Season 3, Episode 06 - Nov 22, 2026
* Season 3, Episode 07 - Nov 27, 2026
* Season 3, Episode 08 - Dec 1, 2026
* Season 3, Episode 09 - Dec 6, 2026
* Season 3, Episode 10 - Dec 10, 2026

* Season 4, Episode 01 - Dec 15, 2026
* Season 4, Episode 02 - Dec 19, 2026
* Season 4, Episode 03 - Dec 24, 2026
* Season 4, Episode 04 - Dec 28, 2026
* Season 4, Episode 05 - Jan 2, 2027
* Season 4, Episode 06 - Jan 6, 2027
* Season 4, Episode 07 & 08 - Jan 11, 2027
* Season 4, Episode 09, 10 & 11 - Jan 15, 2027

I hope this acts as a helpful roadmap for anyone looking to join the conversation. Looking forward to seeing everyone's thoughts, theories, and details we missed the first time around. See you soon

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u/SchattenJaggerD — 1 month ago

S01E01 Discussion

Hi everybody. A few days ago, u/RxR8D_ [posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/12Monkeys/s/zMEGczIR8I) about other subs doing a rewatch of older tv shows and discussing them in their related subs. In that post, I proposed to start watching on the 6th of July because that’s the day the series ended, 6th July 2018, and alternate between 4 and 5 days to watch and discuss the episodes. The reason, to land on the 16th of January, the day the series started in 2015, to watch the last 3 episodes: One Minute More and The Beginning Part 1 and 2 (if my math isn’t failing me). So I’m posting the first episode to discuss, I’d like to hear what you guys thought about the series when you started watching

What I Love:

Since the first episode I love the atmosphere the showrunners gave to the series, to me it feels urgent and the episode quickly establishes that Cole has little patience to deal with anything, the mission is simple: kill Leland

The bartender appeared just for a few seconds and was hilarious: “I don’t care how cute he is” hahaha

The fact that from Cassie’s perspective, Cole just showed up with the same wound from 2 years early? Damn

The explanation Cole gives to Cassandra about what happened to the world, and the reason he came to her. After the rewatch, listening to the corrupted message from Cassie, knowing what it really says is amazing. Helluva way to set up causality

Knowing how the show ends, hearing Cole say “I’ll be erased” hits different every time

“Which magazines?” Hahahaha gold

Overall, a good pilot, the stakes are clear from the start, the mission is clear, the concept works and the actors are good selling it. 8/10

Nitpicks:

When Cole abducted Cassie, he tied her to the chair with a phone cable. When the police closed on them, no cable. Cassie gets up like nothing

When Cassie is waiting in the hotel after a week, she checks out from room 516. It would have been epic if she checked out from 607

Cole was bleeding and nobody noticed

I don’t remember if Cole brought back food, like cheeseburgers, every time he splinter back to 2043

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u/SchattenJaggerD — 1 month ago

Very long shot

There’s a youtuber called Friendly Space Ninja. Maybe some of you know him. Anyway, I’ve been commenting on a video for 150 days straight pestering about watching this show. Today he uploaded a video, so if you could check it out and find my comment and give a like, I think it could help convince him to give the show a run, which in turn means more exposure to this criminally underrated series. It’s a long shot, but I guess it wouldn’t hurt trying. And with the upcoming rewatch on July 6th, maybe he’ll jump with us. Anyways, thanks guys and see you soon

https://youtube.com/watch?v=l-l9PH1KHfk&lc=UgzML4u05G7PkHUiemB4AaABAg&si=Jl0jdYII5ttuoWfX

u/SchattenJaggerD — 2 months ago