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Doesn’t it make more sense from a narrative standpoint that Athan is the witness? Won’t the story hit harder if Athan still becomes the witness despite season 3?

Also the explanation given for Olivia having always been the witness is just not very compelling to me; I’m not sold on the idea that Olivia is meant to be the witness and she becomes the witness only because of the creation of Athan. If she is meant to be the witness, why would Athan even be involved in her story? And all those setups about how special Athan is because he was born out of time and isn’t supposed to have existed are just for nothing after it’s revealed that Athan has never been the witness.

And Olivia isn’t even primary and somehow just gains abilities(I forgot how, I am rewatching and haven’t finished the series) so that she can be the witness. She makes for a good villain but being the big boss just doesn’t seem like her.

It's pretty seamless the way Cassie starts to address Cole by his first name, as soon as they become a thing, every time they are alone or it's a meaningful moment, she always calls him James.

I'm pretty sure 4x05 she only addresses him as James, as well as most of 4x10 and 4x11 except some scenes.

Casserole all the way, one of my favorites TV couple ever

one of the best movies of all time and I’m trying to learn it on piano but can’t find it anywhere

Once I started to keep track, past a certain episode in season 1, he just starts to lose nearly every 1v1. I mean, I don’t expect him to be James Bond but getting bested in every fair fight is just embarrassing. Isn’t it suggested earlier in season 1 that he was enhanced in some way?

I always found it funny that Cassie later in the season is like "Cole don't blame yourself for me becoming ruthless and being sent in the future, I'm like this because of me" while in the earlier eps she kept throwing it out at him, saying that "who's fault I turned out this way" and stuff like that, although it's quite obvious she didn't mean any of it and was just angry at him because in her eyes he betrayed her, so I still found it weird I was like " girl u kept saying it to him, of course he's gonna blame himself, he would blame himself regardless sure, but u're not helping lol"

And although I was frustrated by her attitude, I couldn't get mad at her, because it was obvious that it was a façade to not get hurt again, like we see her façade is broken by the end of ep 2 briefly when he gives her their photo and saying he's ready for the mission, and then the moment he leaves, she crumbles and got emotional

So, you know how there's like crazy fans of shows or movies who recut stuff into chronological order? Like fans recut Westworld or Lost into chronological order.

Is anyone nuts enough to recut 12 monkeys? Or do you think it would be too janky and hard to follow cut into chronological order? Just about to start a rewatch and had that on my mind

Every time during my rewatch when Ramse refers to Jones or Railly as “hey Lady” I scream “it’s DOCTOR” at my television 😩

I’m doing my first full rewatch (I’ve gone back to watch selected episodes for clarification) and I just got to 1x12x, and I can’t stop laughing.

Matthew Cole’s mother-in-law and daughter-in-law just walked into his garage. This guy has no chance!

😂😂😂