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Syed Muzammil's Paradox of Hypocrisy where the opponent can never be right

Mansoor Ali Khan once asked Muzammil (publically available edition of Hum Dekhein Gey) that people criticize us journalists for always criticizing but never providing solutions. Muzammil said thats not my job as a journalist, thats for politicians to do. But that is where the paradox begins, you can only be wrong if you provide a solution. Criticism is hardly even wrong in a country like Pakistan.

Imran khan thought the solution against corrupt politcians was the establishment, he was clearly wrong because the establishment is more corrupt and authoritarian but he identified a problem and tried to fix it but failed has to live with that now.

The infallible trick is to never provide a solution and hence never be wrong. Whenever you provide a solution there will be arguments against or for it. But if you just say "children being out of school is bad" then there's no way to be wrong. You dont actually need to contribute to the discussion of how we get more children enrolled in schools. That's for the politicians to do whom you simultaneously want crucified.

I believe this is the actual problem with Pakistan, we're all arm chair experts and god forbid we read Nietzsche or Orwell then we're literally Aristotle but only in terms of criticism. Literally no one has a solution.

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u/Serious_Camera_7039 — 16 hours ago
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Were Stalin's purges and other authoritarian steps taken by Soviet leaders necessary for the revolution to survive or were they unnecessary oppression of the people?

I've always been conflicted about the dictatorship of the proletariat and absolute power to the vanguard party. Is western style democracy with a socialist economy a better source of liberation for the masses or will it always be compromised by reactionary elements. Would appreciate specific examples aswell.

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u/Serious_Camera_7039 — 3 days ago

Traitors in my province 🤬🤬🤬

These people are damaging our province so much. They have the audacity to illegally rig votes against our representatives to occupy their seats in our assembly. And they are so incompetent, because of them Punjabi infants are contracting HIV! They are literal goons, drive around in cars with black shades picking up people who dare speak against them. Heartless monsters, when our people fall in manholes and die because of their idiocracy, they start harassing their families to admit it was their own doing. Even more maddening, they use our tax money to subsidize their sugar mills. Not to mention the fact that I'm tired of seeing their faces on literally every bill board. We pay for these services not them so why are their faces going up there? To top it off, a majority of these barbarians are illiterate. We need a Punjabi Liberation movement to cleanse our province of them!

Actually I'm gonna name them, I'm not scared of their woke cancellation. The parasites ruining our province, PMLN morons, must be deported!

Context for those who arent chronically online, making fun of people who blame all of Punjab's problem on migrants from other provinces instead of challenging the monsters actually ruining our province. There are kids in cities with no knowledge of how punjab works. Our farms use migrant labour, poultry farms operate majoritarily on migrant labour. Not even talking about heresay, I've witnessed both these things myself. So instead of crying about migrants taking all the shops, go earn some money and become useful.

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u/Serious_Camera_7039 — 5 days ago

One Nation, United under God

^(As the muddy waters continue to swallow vast swathes of Punjab, relief caravans from hundreds of miles away in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) are making their way south loaded with not just aid, but a powerful message of national unity and human solidarity.)

^(Their tent village, set up in Multan, now houses dozens of families who have lost everything. “We are not just sending aid. We are standing shoulder to shoulder with our Punjabi brothers and sisters in this hour of difficulty and will continue efforts till last affectee was rehabilitated,” says Abdul Wasi, Ameer of Jamaat-e-Islami KP Central, under whose guidance many of the volunteers are operating.)

^(Punjab Chief Minister Maryam Nawaz called KP Chief Minister Ali Amin Gandapur to express grief over the devastating floods. She offered condolences to families affected by the floods and the recent helicopter crash. Maryam assured that Punjab’s government stands ready to provide all necessary resources to help KP and its people during this crisis. She said Punjabis share the pain of their KP brothers and sisters in these difficult times. Maryam also conveyed condolences on behalf of Nawaz Sharif.)

^(In response, KP Chief Minister Ali Amin Gandapur thanked Maryam for her sympathies and the promise of support for flood victims.)

Above are some short snippets I've separated from 2 articles that I will link down below. Just a recent example of the friendship and co-operation between both provinces. No matter how much ethnonationalists and foreign powers may try to break up these brotherly communities, the fate of the Pakistani Pashtuns and Pakistani Punjabi people has been intertwined for a very long time now. Not with their fellow Punjabis in India or fellow Pashtuns in Afghanistan, it is a fact they we must now live together with each other and so the only way forward is multi culturalism.

I'm not denying that a problem exists, I'm saying the solution is education, proper and swifter delivery of services, provision of employment opportunities and a swift justice system, not ethnonationalism. Hungry people turn to religious and ethnic extremism around the world not just in Pakistan. We must treat the cause not the symptoms.

In the end, the struggle one of the 40% of the people of pakistan who live in poverty, pashtun or punjabi, is the same. The elite that detests their cultures as barbarian or pendu is the same. The boot that keeps them down is the same. The dala that abducts them for dissenting political opinions is the same. The politicians that play them for fools are the same. Ethnic hatred in Pakistan among the middle classes is like cats fighting each other to death as a pack of dogs surrounds them with their teeth sharpened.

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u/Serious_Camera_7039 — 8 days ago

Shame on u/Eastern_Degree_9763 for posting a cut off screenshot

He made it seem like I was calling Punjabis "spiritual offspring if fascists" but that is dumb as fuck because I am Punjabi!

I told him I was referring to one person who was just casually calling other people "backward" which is racist and ethnofacist behavior and it is haram.

He is a hateful little troll who is trying to spread hatred for no reason. He uses people's love for punjab to make them agree to hating others. You dont have hate someone else to love your own history and culture.

Xenophobic people are a blight everywhere in the world. Just talk to reform voters in the UK, BJP in India and MAGA in America, they're all losers who blame their inadequacies on others. We should not let Punjab be infested by hateful goblins because it will be the end of our province's beauty.

Its even more shameful that these people exist because Punjab has historically been the stronghold of democracy. We have always voted against the wishes of the establishment elite and we're the only province that has no regional party because we have had all 3 major parties rule here at least once.

Another breakup of Pakistan will be disastorous for Punjab like it will for the other provinces. I dont know if these racists are naive to it or they're towing some agenda for exactly that outcome but one thing is clear, there is no need of xenophobia in Pak Punjab, the only beneficiary of that is India.

u/Serious_Camera_7039 — 10 days ago

As far as I understand marxist theory, and feel free to correct me here, Capitalism is the stage preceding socialism that must take place. To elaborate, it means you cant just go straight from feudalism to socialism. I wont pretend, I know exactly why but a very compelling reason seems that it's difficult to develop class consciousness on a large scale without the exploitation of the capitalists.

In a feudal economy, the distinctions are more tribal, ethnic and religious so it's hard to unite people around the idea of shared purpose of the workers. So if that it the case would it not be a priority to accelerate the shift from a feudal economy to a capitalist economy first?

Like serfdom exists in a large part of the country, people are indebted to their landowners till they can work off their loans. If for an example you went straight to socialism and distributed the land out to the peasantry, would it not lead to an immediate reduction in food production at least for a while leading to potential famines? Of course it will take time to equip peasants with the same knowledge and equipment as their land owners and all that time, people still need to be fed.

A pretty glaring rebuttal of my argument is literally the fact that almost all socialist experiments occurred in feudal economies, not capitalist economies for e.g Russia and China. But I feel that's the 1 reason they had the few flaws they did. Socialism raised the standard of living for people in these countries massively but at the cost famines and the loss of some political and religious freedoms. Could that not be avoided through an intermediary capitalist stage where income equality was at least less worse than feudalism and political awareness among the lower classes is much great?

Lmk what u guys think.

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u/Serious_Camera_7039 — 19 days ago

Not 1 account here is above 1-10 karma. Plus all the comments "dm me the le*k paper are also under 10 karma accounts". This is obviously trying to catch people for the scam and cause panic.

u/Serious_Camera_7039 — 19 days ago
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For transparency's sake, to anyone that cares, I'm not a US citizen just like the progressives cuz they dont want to actively fuck the rest of the world sideways like establishment republicans and democrats.

u/Cloud_Cultist — 20 days ago

Didn't know pragmatism meant standing side by side with your literal arch nemesis. This is just an awful lineup of countries to be in.

u/Serious_Camera_7039 — 21 days ago