Container and retrieval

For the entirety of the hunt, Justin has been hesitant to disclose if the treasure is buried or not. I understand his ai concerns, however a little clarity may be helpful to all of us. Below is an analysis of statements/clues either for or against.

Burial

Metal detecting
In the book and documentary, multiple references or stories involved metal detecting. He’s spent thousands of hours doing it, wrote about finds in the book, also probably found the meteor doing so.

Shovel
The illustration on page 168 was always so striking. A shovel the size of a page seems very intentional. Too large and prominent not to be considered.

Manipulation
“Something will need to be manipulated in order for the treasure to be visible”. The treasure isn’t in sight until we so something like manipulate the ground with a shovel, or manipulate the lid of a airtight container, etc. heavily implies burial, entombment, or other vigorous concealment.

Tyler
Someone whose been a life long friend, would’ve known about the book, locations, and creator much before we would. His question from X interview is striking “why did you bury something in the ground for others to find”. Seems like a slip up of someone with intimate knowledge.

Not buried

Recognizable

Justin maintains that the container is immediately recognizable. Meaning we will know as soon as we see it. That statement carries much less weight if buried, of course we’re going to recognize something we had to unearth. Almost seems like something we stumble across.

Logistics

Justin had to know that people would be flying in to search on occasion. Flying with a metal detector and shovel would be quite the trip through tsa. Given that the poem doesn’t imply burial, would it be fair to the fliers if it was buried? Flying 2000 miles and not having the proper tools would be a lovely situation I’m sure.

Poem stands alone
That statement is huge. If it holds true, the treasure cannot be buried. The only reference one could try to say works is “cast your pole” but you would need the book to see the reference to “metal pole” referring to metal detectors. I understand the concerns with AI, but I think knowing if it’s buried or not is absolutely vital for successful retrieval. You’d could get right to where it’s at, but without knowing you needed to bring a shovel and metal detector, you wouldn’t be able to find it.

Conclusion

If it is indeed buried, Tyler knew early and that wouldn’t be cool if he’s searching. It’s a huge advantage to have that piece of information. It also would bring into question the validity of the statement “the poem can stand alone”. There are no clues referring to burial or concealment in the poem. Honestly anything other than it being right out in the open, would invalidate that statement. It wouldn’t really be fair to the people who solve everything from the poem, and end up empty handed because the didn’t bring the necessary equipment.

I’d love to hear your thoughts and feedback if you have any input. What side do you lean towards?

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u/SixClues — 7 days ago

BOTG #1 2026 Recap

Here are some of the pictures I took this past week while botg. Some of the most beautiful land I’ve seen, but also pretty rough hiking. I think I have a good bit figured out, and I’ve never wanted to be more wrong in my life. If it’s where I think, we’re all in a bit of trouble. Essentially the easy way to it may no longer be in play and a much more vigorous hike may be required for retrieval. Like I said, I hope I’m wrong. A hike to my search area and back, was 10 miles and 1800 ft elevation change. So basically taking the stairs to the top of the Empire State Building twice and then some. Trying to reevaluate working off the assumption of being completely wrong, however there’s pretty compelling evidence that I’m somewhat close. For the time being, I am dedicating my next outing to the FF box of TTI. I wanted to retrieve both in one trip if I could, but it was a complete and utter shitshow in Montana. Probably making a move on that next month, and in the meantime probably do some more scouting / recon for the AT box. Not sure what to do with BTME at the moment. Hoping for another interview or something soon to possibly get more insight on the accessibility. Outside of the hiccups, I am smitten with Montana and im still going for the gold. It just makes more sense to go grab the easier one for the time being. I met a lot of cool people, and made some new friends. I met a fellow searcher from California at the Wise River Club (our communities unofficial base camp). Super cool and smart guy. He also had the 42 mystery solved so it was very exciting to meet some of the competition. So good luck J, hope you have a better turn out than me. Also to my fellow statesman whose out there now, good luck and enjoy the trip. Everyone be extra safe, and happy hunting.

u/SixClues — 2 months ago