Seeing as a C2 standard 5* will just perform/scale better with the eventual Stellar Swirl dedicated units.
That is, unless they specifically change Varka's kit to do direct stellar swirl dmg.
They are potential good last slot options for Stellar Swirl Varka, not sure if they beat cryo Traveler/Escoffier though.
Hmm this doesn't rule out Varka, unless the reaction only scales with EM like swirl.
Got better results with it than other overload team variants with Durin or Bennett.
Even better results than the melt team variants with Citlali/Nicole/Sucrose or Citlali/Escoffier/Bennett, which was surprising considering my Arle build is tailored for melt not overload : https://enka.cc/carrilho/4Q1h4C/10000096/8687723/
Arle C2R1, all 5* supports are c0r0, all 4* supports are c6.
Fischl w/ Celestial Gift and Sacrificial Bow R5
Fischl w/ Golden Troupe and Skyward Harp R3
Builds:
Varka C1 - TBS - Winds set
Iansan C3 - Tamayuratei - Noblesse set
Prune C4 - Oathsworn Eye - VV set
Fischl C6 - Sac Bow/Skyward Harp - Celestial Gift/Golden Troupe set
Rotation:
Fischl E N1, Prune E Q, Iansan E Q, Varka E N4 E N4 E N4 E
Conclusion:
Yes getting Celestial Gift on Fischl is a major upgrade to electro Varka (about a 20% team dps increase) even if you lose most of Fischl's personal dmg. At least at this level of investment, C0R0 Varka might be different.
Notes:
I also tried different rotations snapshotting Oz, or using Prune after Iansan, but the lower buff uptime for Varka had worse results.
Also tried recalling Oz with Skyward Harp and it does activate the Celestial Gift set yet you lose too much rotation time for it to be worth it over Sac Bow (Fischl's dmg barely matters anyways).
The team could still get stronger with more cons on Prune/Iansan, probably reaches 150k dps with both at C6.
Builds:
Varka C1 TBS Winds Set
Mona C6 TTDS Celestial Gift Set
Jean C6 Fav Sword VV Set
Prune C4 Oathsworn Eye VV Set
Furina C0 Festering Desire GT Set
Xingqiu C6 Fav Sword Emblem Set
Yelan C0 Fav Bow Emblem Set
And here are the results and some conclusions:
(EDIT) Jean/Furina is the best performing team, period. It does take a couple of rotations to ramp up though, such is the nature of Furina's fanfare.
Yelan/Prune team is ahead of Xingqiu/Prune, mostly due to the shorter rotation time (18s) compared to the others (21s). Its also the best performing team if you consider only the 1st rotation. TTDS downtime lowers its performance a bit over a couple of rotations (but its still better than dragging rotations to 21s).
Xingqiu/Prune underperformed, his personal dmg is just a lot lower than the other hydro sub dps (even with them all having similar build quality).
This ranking would change a lot with Prune's C6, and Varka C2, expect an update when Varka reruns.
It would also change a little with XQ/Yelan on Noblesse/Furina on Tenacity but I can't be arsed to re-farm all of them.
And this is why you should test teams before making broad statements based on TC calcs. The best team for your account can vary a lot.
And I'm completely out of primogems.
Who else got scammed..?
Builds:
Varka C1 Thousand Blazing Suns R1 Rising Winds
Prune C3 Oathsworn Eye R5 VV
Mona C6 TTDS R5 Celestial Gift
Yelan C0 Fav R5 Emblem
Xingqiu C6 Sac R5 Emblem
Iansan C2 Tamayurutei R5 Scroll
Fischl C6 Skyward Harp R3 GT
Layla C6 Dockhand R1 Tenacity
Escoffier C0 Sacrificer Staff R1 GT
PS: Some of the builds are suboptimal for Varka, just working with what I use by default.
PSS: All teams doing 3 rotations.
And thats with Nicole having 190% ER and Durin 140%, which is enough to not run fav when you start with full burst (Abyss/IT).
It just helps streamline rotations a ton, and you don't sacrifice much dmg buff anyway (still a respectable 3.5k atk at C2).
Builds:
Varka C1, Thousand Blazing Suns R1, Winds set
Nicole C0, Skyward Atlas R1, Celestial set
Prune C3, Oathsworn Eye R5, Viridescent set
Durin C0, Wolf Fang R2, Winds set
Durin and Nicole talent levels aren't maxed yet, maybe 170k is reachable.
My Varka base atk (with pyro resonance): 3415
My Nicole base atk (with pyro resonance): 3873
Varka with Nicole buff: 4267 (3415 + 300 + 551)
Nicole with Nicole buff: 4424 (3873 + 551)
She is talent level 9 on skill.
14.25% of 3873 is: 551 flat atk buff
If the buff affected the 4000 atk requirement, it would provide the max 570 flat atk at talent level 9.
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Sorry just needed to vent...
Its weird but they are being announced by Barbeloth.
Hex Diona would be great for cryo Varka teams just with shield + hex support set.
Same applies to hex Beidou and hex Yae for electro Varka teams (they don't have the Fischl downside of very long skill cooldown that's required to activate the hex support set).
Gunning for that TBS akasha leaderboard (if they ever make one).
Ignore the DPS, look at Varka's Atk stat.
Mine is already reaching 6K even before Prune (3100 without buffs).
While TTDS Nicole gives like 700+400 = 1100 atk buff compared to a 4K Atk Nicole giving just 900 atk, its quite a diluted buff already, especially with Prune C6 giving even more Atk.
TTDS also has several downsides:
-Only about 400 atk to the sub dps compared to 600 from 4K Nicole.
-The ATK% buff only lasts 10s, while Varka stays on field longer than that in 21s rotations.
-Smaller shield.
-Smaller scaling on hex projection buff.
-The big one: rotation restriction. For example, in stygian you want to start with Nicole prefunnel skill into Durin (Nicole burst is skipped) so that Durin has enough energy to use his burst on the first rotation. TTDS loses all value here.
