u/Some_Doughnutter

Image 1 — When everyone else has to crowdfund the consequences of choosing a dog based on looks and vibes: final part 2, exposed
Image 2 — When everyone else has to crowdfund the consequences of choosing a dog based on looks and vibes: final part 2, exposed
Image 3 — When everyone else has to crowdfund the consequences of choosing a dog based on looks and vibes: final part 2, exposed

When everyone else has to crowdfund the consequences of choosing a dog based on looks and vibes: final part 2, exposed

It was a scam all along. Please be aware.
Thank you to the people who pointed this out to me!

u/Some_Doughnutter — 2 days ago

When everyone else has to crowdfund the consequences of choosing a dog based on looks and vibes: part 2

At this point I am starting to wonder if any of this is even legit or just an easy money scam. People in the comments are beginning to ask questions.

u/Some_Doughnutter — 5 days ago

Growing anti human misanthropy in dog culture and the ethical irony, hating humans while worshipping what they created

I find it kind of sad watching people become so disillusioned with humanity that they start believing animals are inherently better than people. And I don’t mean that in a “how dare you dislike humans” way.

I can understand having terrible experiences with people and developing a pretty negative view of humanity. But watching that resentment turn into some sort of self-sustaining doom loop is something else entirely! Every bad experience becomes further proof that humans are the worst and every animal is apparently a flawless little angel who can do no wrong.

Meanwhile, Mister Sparklesandbarkles is happily devouring the steaming buffet left behind by another dog before clocking in for his daily barking shift. Clearly, this is the morally superior species! Granny Rita better move aside, Mistersparklesandbarkles has places to be. Children? Grandchildren? Other humans with actual needs? They can wait. After all, he is basically a small child, a beloved family member, and apparently a fully qualified citizen with the same social standing as everyone else.

He has important work to do: barking at absolutely nothing, devouring mystery buffets left by his canine colleagues, conducting extremely thorough buttsniffing inspections, and maintaining diplomatic relations with every dog within a five-mile radius.

Please, try to be understanding. How else would society function without his tireless contributions? Who would stock the stores? Lay the roads? Build the roofs? Manufacture the clothes, phones, furniture, food, and approximately 847 other unnecessary toys he has received?

And who do you think bred and domesticated Mister Sparklesandbarkles in the first place? Oh, right… The same supposedly inferior species that spends its time farming, manufacturing, building infrastructure, providing veterinary care, developing medicine, maintaining electricity and sanitation, and generally keeping civilization running so your dog can spend his afternoon sniffing another dog’s bum and bark at a plastic bag.

On a more serious note, animals should be treated with respect and care. But there are boundaries that, when crossed, turn into obsession and something toxic. People saying they would save their dog over some child’s Granny Rita, and much worse… some child’s parent.

It’s not just ethically bankrupt to put a dog on the same level as a human being, it’s also an incredibly unhealthy place to be mentally and emotionally.

Ethical treatment of animals doesn’t exist in nature. The entire concept is a human moral framework. Nature isn’t concerned with fairness, compassion, or ethical treatment. It’s just survival of the fittest.

People nowadays have this rose-tinted view of dogs because they forget just how deliberately humans have shaped them. Humans have spent thousands of years reshaping wolves to suit our needs, preferences, and lifestyles. So perhaps we should be a little more cautious about romanticizing the “natural” side of dogs or pretending their relationship with us exists independently of human intervention.

Can we really call it “normal” for an animal to require generations of selective breeding for temperament, hours of training, and constant supervision around children simply to ensure it doesn’t seriously injure or maul someone? That’s absurd to me.

You don’t have to like humanity. You don’t even have to like people. But being deeply misanthropic while placing a domesticated animal, literally shaped by thousands of years of human breeding, above humans is a little ironic. It’s almost like hating the artist while worshipping the painting.

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u/Some_Doughnutter — 10 days ago

Wild cat hybrids shouldn’t exist

The normalization of wild and hybrid cats as pets is the latest fad. Many owners see an exotic animal, not a complex species with specific needs completely unfit to be kept as a pet. Throwing a piece of raw meat in a bowl and calling it a diet.

u/Some_Doughnutter — 21 days ago

Which perspective’s ethical issues best match your primary focus on this subreddit?

Which of the following best represents the ethical issues you discuss or prioritize most here. You don’t have to agree with everything, just the ethical issues.

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u/Some_Doughnutter — 22 days ago

Which of the following do you consider the most important ethical issue in pet ownership today?

There have been a lot of new ethical issues in pet ownership recently from overcrowded shelters, the rise of breeds like the French Bulldog to growing distrust in veterinarians and pet food companies.

I’m curious which of these issues you consider to be the most concerning?

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u/Some_Doughnutter — 25 days ago

Tiny fold Munchkin (Scottish Fold x Munchkin) the absolute worst of both worlds!

And because severe arthritis wasn’t enough, selectively bred for exaggerated round, flattened faces as well.

u/Some_Doughnutter — 29 days ago

Sometimes the most ethical choice is not owning a pet.

Ethicalpetownership begins with doing your research. And if the conclusion of that research is that you don’t have the time, finances, stability, space, or desire to provide for an animal the choice not to get a pet can be the most ethical thing to do.

This also means that if your situation changes and you can no longer provide the proper care and time towards a pet that rehoming can be the most ethical thing to do. You got a pet from a shelter or breeder but you realize it might not be a good fit, rehoming could be the most ethical thing to do. And sometimes not owning a pet at all could be the best thing to do.

It’s funny how some people say they’d never adopt because they want a dog with the “right” temperament, energy, size, or breed to fit their lifestyle. But if someone realizes after getting a dog that the match isn’t right and responsibly rehomes it, suddenly they’re the villain. Responsible rehoming isn’t the opposite of ethical pet ownership. Sometimes, it’s exactly what ethical pet ownership looks like.

Despite what modern pet culture might think, you don’t have to own a dog, cat, or any other animal to be an ethicalpetowner . Choosing not to own a pet because you value your freedom, don’t enjoy living with animals, have financial priorities, lack the time, or simply don’t want the responsibility is a valid and ethical decision. In fact, it is far more ethical than getting one out of guilt, social pressure, or the belief that everyone should have one.

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u/Some_Doughnutter — 1 month ago

The term “ethical breeder” is starting to feel more and more like a way to justify unethical breeding and animals flooding shelters.

This used to be mostly a dog thing. Now I see “ethical” breeders for rodents, brachycephalic dogs and cats, dangerous dog breeds, and even exotic animals.

The more “ethical” breeders I see, the more I get the feeling like they are just using this term as some way to justify producing a certain breed or animal that overcrowds shelters. Or using it to justify breeding an animal that is inherently unethical to begin with.

I don’t hear anyone worship shelters in the same way and calling every shelter an ethical shelter. Let alone a shelter using the term “ethical” shelter. We only got kill and no-kill. But somehow breeders are now doing everyone a service and are all “ethical”

Even breeding subs are hijacking the term and we know how ethical the people on there are. If every breeder claims to be ethical, what is even the point? A more socially acceptable way of saying unethical breeding? A way to justify breeding animals that shouldn’t be bred in the first place?

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u/Some_Doughnutter — 1 month ago

What other dog breeds do you think should be banned except for unethical dangerous and unhealthy breeds?

Saw someone in the past mention herding dogs. I wonder what other breeds are unfit for your average owner.

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u/Some_Doughnutter — 1 month ago

Can we have a rule against pitbull derailment on posts mentioning other dangerous breeds already?

Mention literally any other powerful dog and, within minutes: Excuse me, do you have a moment to talk about pitbulls? Doesn’t matter if the post is praising the breed, criticizing it, or isn’t even about pitbulls. The same people appear.

The constant brigading and mass downvoting is getting old. I left the extreme hate subs because I got tired of the hive mind mentality, and now it’s starting to feel like the same thing all over again.

Dogfree isn’t camping these threads. Catfree isn’t. Petfree isn’t. Somehow it’s always the pro pit and anti pit crowds turning every discussion into the same debate.

At this point I’m convinced if someone posted about a dog stealing a sandwich, the comments would somehow end up being about how the dog has pitbull mixed in that gives it a genetic tendency to steal sandwiches.

Just make a rule against the constant pitbull derailments already.

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u/Some_Doughnutter — 1 month ago

Weaponized dog breeds being bred and trained to fight humans are celebrated and praised and it is deeply disturbing and beyond disgusting.

**Dog bred and trained to fight other dogs = barbaric bloodsport**

**Dog bred and trained to fight humans = enrichment / “working” dog**

After the backlash on my post about people breeding and training dogs to maul humans I really needed to vent. Seeing such posts on Reddit being upvoted in the tens of thousands, I feel a combination of intense concern and disgust.

Puppies dangling from a rope, biting and shaking violently in a setup that past dogfighters could only dream of. You would think people would react in horror and condemn this, right???? Right???!! No! They are being praised and excused.
Comments like “stinking cute” now describing what was formerly known as an illegal dogfighting operation. “It’s just what the breed was meant to do” repeated like some broken record.

Not only am I shocked by the double standard, but also very concerned with the way the anti pitbull movement is being misused by bad actors. I am not saying all anti pitbull people are participating in this, but I am seeing an obvious returning pattern. As long as it is not a pitbull dangling from a rope biting and shaking as if it just caught rabies, it is very wholesome.

Dangerous breeds used by police biting thousands of innocent people, being literally described as a force multiplier and weapon, are “working” dogs. Aggression towards humans is somehow perfectly acceptable as long as Mister Barkles doesn’t get injured by a pitbull.

The reason I am saying this: one glance at the profile of the people making these comments leaves little left to my imagination. Top poster on an anti-pit sub in combination with owning half of the top 10 ranked slightly below pitbulls. Most of the time a combination of all of the above.

And the worst part? When confronted, the same exact arguments as those of pitbull advocates. It’s just all in how you raise or train the dog, it’s the bestest boy, and mine is the well-bredest of them all. You have just never owned “insert favorite good boy”

Instead of condemning any form of weaponization and breeding for violence, what is socially acceptable simply moved from harm to other dogs to harm to humans. As long as the dog’s mauling spree involves a human, the bloodsport is now justified.

To me, this is even worse!

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u/Some_Doughnutter — 1 month ago

Dogs being bred and trained to fight humans are celebrated and praised and it is deeply disturbing and beyond disgusting.

Dog bred and trained to fight other dogs = barbaric bloodsport

Dog bred and trained to fight humans = enrichment / “working” dog

After the backlash on my post about people breeding and training dogs to maul humans I really needed to vent. Seeing such posts on Reddit being upvoted in the tens of thousands, I feel a combination of intense concern and disgust.

Puppies dangling from a rope, biting and shaking violently in a setup that past dogfighters could only dream of. You would think people would react in horror and condemn this, right???? Right???!! No! They are being praised and excused.
Comments like “stinking cute” now describing what was formerly known as an illegal dogfighting operation. “It’s just what the breed was meant to do” repeated like some broken record.

Not only am I shocked by the double standard, but also very concerned with the way the anti pitbull movement is being misused by bad actors. I am not saying all anti pitbull people are participating in this, but I am seeing an obvious returning pattern. As long as it is not a pitbull dangling from a rope biting and shaking as if it just caught rabies, it is very wholesome.

Dangerous breeds used by police biting thousands of innocent people, being literally described as a force multiplier and weapon, are “working” dogs. Aggression towards humans is somehow perfectly acceptable as long as Mister Barkles doesn’t get injured by a pitbull.

The reason I am saying this: one glance at the profile of the people making these comments leaves little left to my imagination. Top poster on an anti-pit sub in combination with owning half of the top 10 ranked slightly below pitbulls. Most of the time a combination of all of the above.

And the worst part? When confronted, the same exact arguments as those of pitbull advocates. It’s just all in how you raise or train the dog, it’s the bestest boy, and mine is the well-bredest of them all. You have just never owned “insert favorite good boy”

Instead of condemning any form of weaponization and breeding for violence, what is socially acceptable simply moved from harm to other dogs to harm to humans. As long as the dog’s mauling spree involves a human, the bloodsport is now justified.

To me, this is even worse!

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u/Some_Doughnutter — 1 month ago