
Advice needed: glueing carbon fiber tube over a rod
Hi, I've come for some advice.
I want to glue a small length(12mm/.5inch) of woven CF tube on a pulltruded rod.
I have tried this 3 times using 2 different glues.
I used "bison fast kombi epoxy" for the first 2 tries, and the "easycomposites vuduglu VM100 Black MMA Structural Acrylic Adhesive" for the last one.
The problem is that it does not take a lot of force(sub 90 Newtons) to break this bond and to pull the "sleeve" of of the rod.
This is how I tried to do it:
pulltruded rod:
- lightly use 80grit sandpaper on the location(with the rod in a drill, not much lenghtwise scratching).
- wiping the area using a lint-free cloth with acetone.
- wiping the area using a dry lint-free cloth
woven tube:
- use a carbide drillbit to widen the original ID from 3mm to 3.2mm.
- pull a thin slice of the lint-free cloth drenched in acetone through
- the back part of the slice was dry, so I just continued pulling.(I only did this for the last test, before this no cleaning inside the tube took place.)(This might be partially responsible, as I saw a small amount of fibers stick out when I went to push the rod through when glueing)
glues:
following the instructions for both(mixing thoroughly, and waiting 1 hour for setting the bison epoxy and waiting 24 hours for the MMA glue)
application:
- smearing it on with the mixing stick only on the area of the pulltruded rod.
- pushing the sleeve over the glue
- rotating and translating the sleeve a bit to try to get even spread(I think this might be the biggest contributor, as the MMA glue already felt a bit gummy, and the glues might not have spread properly or evenly)
- holding it with the axis of the rod being vertical(to prevent assymetric force of gravity) while hardening/drying.
- kept in west european weather/temperature(so around 31C or 88f).
What am I doing wrong?
I want the sheerforce to be more around 25-30kg/250N. Is this possible using the glue, or is it smarter to find a different way to get a thin ledge(I am using the face of one side of the sleeve as a ledge to hook it behind. The ledge does not have to be big, but should not fail.)
Will it be stronger if I take a 4mm pulltruded rod, and then "neck down" a small section to create the ledge? if so, how much "meat" should I leave behind the section against the sheer forces? And if it is a possible solution, what is the best way to "neck down" a pulltruded rod?