The time loop scene in loki series scene 1 is disgusting , everyone who finds that scene funny or "hot" , "Sexy" . You need to get your head straight.

I hate how that lady sif timeloop torture scene is framed as funny. Or how people find it "hot"

If it was a female character getting beaten over and over again ,well the male character tells her that she would always be alone and she is a pathetic worm because she cutted his hair. No one would find it "hot" or funny

And yes I do know that loki cutted sif hair and that was wrong BUT that doesn't make loki getting beaten up especially in that timeloop "deserved "

If wanda was getting kicked over and over in her genital area and taunted about how she would always be alone (and keep in mind wanda universe is dead means she is quite literally all alone) by one of the people she killed in MOM or had held hostage in wandavision. It would still not be "hot" or "deserved " and definitely never be seen as funny.

Ladies (and guys) all those videos or memes I have seen with the photo of loki kneeling infront of sif and them saying that "This is why we need more female directors " or "Bless female directors " or saying "This is female gaze " Just stop this is not female gaze, this is a bully gaze. I am disappointed

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Loki season 1 is really bad and overrated especially the "morals" of people in the story.

Okay , I am going to get a lot of hate and downvotes for it and that's okay but just answer my questions and arguments .

I am only going to talk about season 1 in here , so don't bring things from season 2 because of things like "Loki season 1 was better" and "Loki was a goated series all year around ".

Don't talk about season 2 only season 1 because even when loki seriously only season 1 was out not 2 a lot of people still didn't find a problem with it.

1. Narratives framing

The narrative or moral framing of the whole series in season 1 is so weird , in the first episode itself when tva captures loki it is portrayed in a funny light .(I tried to post the gif but couldn't)

that one guy who got pruned in the tva because he didn't take the ticket got pruned too(yeah he was being kind of a asshole but not enough to kill for something like just being rude) and that was portrayed/framed in a funny way.

But then in ep 3 (or 4?) We are supposed to see sylvie getting captured by the tva as something sad? Doesn't make sense , they(loki and that guy) got captured it is portrayed as funny and sylvie got captured there is sad music in the background. (Yes it is sad but than why frame it as funny when it was done to loki?)

People were shitting and mocking wandavision for that one line where Monica told wanda "They will never know what you sacrificed for them" because she said it in the town filled with victims whom wanda (the torturer) tortured.

But when mobius showed loki all his family members death , told him his only purpose in life was to be a stepping stone for others and told him and loki is responsible for his mother's death. The writers called it therapy?? (Saying loki killed frigga is the same as saying peter killed uncle ben)

If I took peter parker and told him he is responsible for uncle ben death would it be therapy too?

And at that point loki hadn't even done those things , he was getting blamed amd blaming himself for something he hasn't even done. Neither did anyone in the future or as the story progess told him that it was not his fault. That is seriously messed up.

Or like the time where mobius quite literally tortured loki on screen , he put loki in a bad memory prison where he got beaten up over and over again until he was on his knees saying how much of a horrible person and narcissistic he is. That too is again framed as funny and mobius is not framed as some sort of villain in these scenes. But nooooooo, loki is hugging mobius in the next episode and sylvie said things like "he cares about you" And people then go and talk about how horrible it was that monica was taking wanda side in wandavision ....

Atleast wandavision didn't turn torture as a joke.

*(*Not saying how things like that line of they would never know what you sacrificed was right but just that if people have problems with that light and Framing of wandavision then hmwhy not loki series?)

Now before anyone talks about how he cutted sif hair so it was "deserved" , no it was not , because that already happened in the sacred timeline and loki already got beaten by sif before for cutting her hair. This scene was just him being in a time loop.

Like imagin wanda getting beaten up by one of the person in the rown till she is on her knees calling herself a horrible person , or town stark getting beaten by one wanda or her brother till he calls himself a narcissistic ? Is that funny too?

And mobius did it because loki "betrayed " him , I am sorry how is running from a fascist organization a betrayel to one of the workers of that organization?

And no ,even if tva loki was after the avengers and after those crimes doesn't deserve to get treated like that , and if those things still happen okay 👌 but at the very least should not be portrayed as funny. If thor before his banishment after killing the jotuns or tony before he stopped making weapons was treated like this , there would have been a lot of backlash.

And Yes I know they were "brain washed " varient but by that time in the show that was not known so they should have been portrayed in a negative light especially the lady sif scene.

There is also a lot of other issues like this but I would talk about those later . There is seriously a lot wrong with the loki series but people seems to overrated it.

Yes , I do believe odin was a shifty father to all his kids(yes even thor, not as bad as hela or loki but still terrible parenting)

● Took a baby from another planet where he was invading, as a political pawn.

Odin words to loki in thor 1 : I thought I could bring peace through you.

Then proceeds to raise that child and (also his own child ) to hate jotuns and view them as "monsters " . So loki grow up being surrounded by racist asgardians (and himself being racist) towards the race to which he belonged to.

Kid Thor : I am going to slay all the monsters down when I am older like you father .

That is seriously messed up.

● Started rivarly between brothers by saying how both were born to be king, if loki is not going to be the king of asgard then odin telling loki you too are born to be king is a shitty move

● When thor grow up as a war monger, and got out of hand , he just decided to banish him to earth , not teach his kids what they did wrong but just threw them out of house. Thor and hela exactly grew up the way odin raised them to be like , the only exception being that thor changed and hela didn't. Just compare thor 1 thor before banishment and hela in ragnorak.

● His punishment for hela and loki just show how cruel he is and how much of a hypocrite he is. Both have done the crimes odin has done , hela the same as odin and loki way less than odin. Yet he punish them while acting all high and mighty.

In a alternative scene of odin death , hela asked odin why she was banished after every thing she has done for asgard and odin replied with "Your ways are brutal "

● Taunted loki on about how his birthright was to die. Then admitted loki sentence would have been death but was reduced to life imprisonment in isolation because of frigga.

I am not saying in any way what loki and hela or thor did was right just pointing out how a huge part of their actions were due to how they were raised by odin. Hold them accountable for those crimes but hold odin accountable too. He was a abusive and toxic father. Their actions were shaped due to the toxic environment of asgard (aka being racist to other races)