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Interviewer : So, I'm curious what your reaction was when you read the script. What were those discussions like?

James Spader : There was no script. When I had to make the decision to do the show, it was just based on my conversations with Terry \[Matalas\]. The story would have to be very different if Ultron wasn't going to be on the show. So, first I had to discuss whether Ultron was going to be there. In our first meeting, we started working on it together. I knew the trajectory of the show in that very first meeting. And then I knew the trajectory of Ultron within the context of the show in that very first meeting. But then how funny was it going to be and how that was going to be executed. I didn't see until scripts started to arrive and they were better than I even had expected. We were just having such fun right from the very first meeting.

I was rewatching The Falcon and the Winter Soldier and the scene where Ayo detaches Bucky's arm got me thinking about something I hadn't really connected before.

A surprising number of MCU characters have their identities tied to equipment that somebody else can technically take away.

Peter spends most of Homecoming wearing a suit Tony built. Tony eventually takes it back, and Peter has to figure out whether he's still Spider-Man without it.

Bucky gets an incredibly advanced prosthetic arm from Wakanda. It's a gift that gives him back something he lost, but it also comes with a hidden mechanism that allows someone else to disable it instantly.

Then there's Sam and the shield.

He gives it to the Smithsonian believing he's retiring it respectfully. The government turns around and hands it to another guy.

Three very different situations, but there's something uncomfortable connecting them.

Who actually gets to decide what these objects mean?

Tony considers the suit his responsibility because he built it. Peter considers it part of becoming the hero Tony believes he can be.

Wakanda has perfectly understandable reasons to be cautious about advanced technology falling into the wrong hands. But Bucky has spent decades being treated like something other people can control, and suddenly discovers there's still a part of his body he doesn't have complete authority over.

And Sam learns that surrendering ownership of the shield also means surrendering control over what happens to Steve's legacy.

What's interesting is that none of these situations requires the people providing the equipment to be outright villains. Tony genuinely cares about Peter. Wakanda helped Bucky recover. Sam voluntarily donated the shield.

That makes the conflicts more interesting than someone simply stealing a superhero's weapon.

It also makes me appreciate the characters who build or choose their own equipment differently. There's a certain freedom in knowing nobody can show up tomorrow and tell you they're repossessing your entire superhero identity.

Maybe I'm reading too much into a recurring plot device, but I think Marvel has accidentally found a pretty effective way of exploring trust, independence and control through its props.

Are there other MCU objects that become more interesting when you think about who actually owns them?

They did such a great job paying homage to the original Incredible Hulk TV show.