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Did I make an original alchemical design or does this already exist?

Basically the title. I've been using this as a symbol of the 7 planets and the tria prima, am just curious if it's original because it seems pretty simple but I haven't seen it anywhere else. Was considering it as a sobriety tattoo but don't want to if it exists elsewhere.

u/Sufficient-Fan-5177 — 1 month ago

I have a very stupid question but sometimes need reassurance

I work with Buer and Naphula and have had, like, insane success for it. Both are included in my main altar at home. A big part of my practice has also been wearing rings to both for a few months. But lately the rings are annoying me greatly, and I work with people who might very well recognize the sigils and cause issues. Obviously if I stop wearing the ones for Buer and Naphula it won't change our working relationship right?

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u/Sufficient-Fan-5177 — 2 months ago

How did Buer become associated with a Lion's head?

The lion-headed spirits, as in those explicitly mentioned to have a lion's head, are:

Barbas / Marbas

Seson / Purson

Ipes / Ipos

Sabnack / Sabnock

Othey / Vine

Lecher / Alloces

Muryell / Orias

Goyle / Vapula / Naphula

Books like the Ars Goetia don't mention a lion head for Gamor / Buer, nor does the Stellas Daemonum. Instead he is an asterisk, a spark of fire, or star, and may or may not be associated with Sagittarius. The lion headed image commonly used now appears to come from the Dictionnaire Infernal, but why? Stellas Daemonum explains that the head of the spirit illustrates what higher force the spirit is under, so that seems pretty important. How was Buer as a lion head concluded?

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u/Sufficient-Fan-5177 — 2 months ago

There are stupid questions, and I have some

Long time occultist, only started demonolotry work this year but it's been the most successful magic of my 30+ years. After some trial and error I ended up working with Buer. His sigil clicked with me not just on the surface level but very deep and complicated ways that tie to my other practices and symbolism. Helped me finally get sober, start addressing chronic problems, get into grad school, even connect with a long gone pet as my familiar. I started with Ars Goetia but I never did any binding or anything because I see the spirits as my greaters. I wear a ring for Buer and was looking for one for my other hand. At first I thought of Aladiah, his angel counterpart, as I'm not really left hand path or at all solely into demons, but also angels aren't necessarily my style and Aladiah just seemed redundant. I found a version of the pentagram of Solomon without the Tetragrammaton, just the star and the 6 sigils.

Anyways I'm rambling. I came here and was surprised to see a great distaste for Solomon, though I get it since most existing works are very Christian. I'm personally more Jewish (born and raised) and don't see the "demonic" spirits as evil or anything. ANYWAYS I'm conflicted on the pentagram of Solomon because I see where this sub is coming from with the Lesser Key being very disrespectful. And I'm wondering, what if you used the exact same sigil but inverted it? Not just because "inverted pentagram = demonic" which everyone here probably knows is B.S. but almost to change the meaning to something like:

"I request of thee, thou Spirit of whatsoever region thou art, to come to me of your own volition, and appear in your natural shape, and speak to me in your own tongue, And show, and discover unto me what thou desire that is in your keeping, and share it with me proudly, and help me answer my questions to the level you are comfortable in your own time."

I guess my question is: is this stupid lol. It's almost the crack of dawn and I'll probably delete this ramble, guess I'm just looking for thoughts. My stupid questions are: is it okay to use the names and sigils from the Ars Goetia? Is it okay to use the pentagram of Solomon particularly if it is inverted? Is there benefit to a more Jewish interpretation of Solomon that forgoes the christianized hatred of demons?

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u/Sufficient-Fan-5177 — 2 months ago

My very late take on the story.

  1. Before the birth of the universe there was only Chaos: infinite unactualized potential. Chaos is the final entity you see in and throughout the story. 
  2. Inevitably with infinite time Chaos produced the gods, though without any intent to do so. The gods include Ophion, Hyperion, Nemesis, and Algos. 
  3. The gods, seeking to create, had to keep Chaos out of the ordered world, essentially locking the gates of chaos. This lock is Atropos. It is important to note Chaos exists beyond space and time, whereas every other character experiences time in a linear fashion, including the gods. Atropos is left in a cosmic void so it will never be seen or discovered. 
  4. Billions of years pass and life forms in the cosmos. 
  5. Chaos, from beyond the gate, inadvertently sends signals out into the universe. This eventually catches the attention of the hivemind, who comes to Atropos and builds a city. Note that Chaos does not have will or anything, it is simply so primordially powerful it emits these signals.
  6. Living on Atropos the hivemind are heavily influenced by Chaos though do not free him. 
  7. Realizing the danger, the gods come to the hivemind on Atropos and tell them about the nature of Chaos. Chaos becomes known as the “Creator/Destroyer” because all came from him but he may be fated to break through into the universe and return it to Chaos, destroying all but itself.
  8. They split into two groups, one that worships Chaos and one that fears him. The latter group is the one with political power. 
  9. The group that worships Chaos is driven to the desert. 
  10. Ixion, the leader of the worshippers is driven insane by the signals from Chaos, which reverberate out to the others, fully severing them from the rest of the hivemind.
  11. When the free group attempts to communicate with the severed it is warped by their connection to Chaos and causes civil war. 
  12. The severed begin ritualistically wrapping themselves in their own mad attempt to reunite with the hivemind. 
  13. The free sentients create automatons to help them with the war. With the gods they also build powerful devices to block out the signals from Chaos and the severed. 
  14. Note/Reminder: Chaos itself is outside space and time, his signals are not bound to time or space. With infinite time Chaos’ freedom is inevitable. It will always send out signals and never die, though none of this is intentional and therefore not malevolent. 
  15. The gods and sentients create increasingly powerful devices to stop these signals. 
  16. A lieutenant of the severed leader, Phrike, breaks through from the desert and begins spreading the signal of Chaos to the free sentients, further severing them. 
  17. The gods set up a four step plan. Nemesis will freeze Atropos in time, so that nothing can ever change. Algos will make it so that anyone who finds Atropos is stuck in an infinite loop to drive them insane while reliving their trauma. Hyperion will play music that keeps chaos in a state of impassivity. And Ophion will directly guard the gates of Chaos to keep anyone from breaching them. 
  18. The free sentients fall to the severed, with the last surviving member locked in the heart of the city behind the automaton army in a mental/spiritual connection with Nemesis, who enacts his plan, freezing Atropos in time. Hyperion plays, Algos creates the cycle, and Ophion guards the gates of Chaos. 
  19. Millions of years pass. During this time Ophion, who is closest to the gates of Chaos, is tormented by the signals of Chaos but in return can see into its “mind” as well. It sees that Chaos is fated to be free. Ophion is tormented by visions of this event, and repurposes the psychic devices to transmit a signal out into the universe to stop this from happening. 
  20. Theia Vassos is born on earth. She is an extremely successful young girl, trains for the Olympics, and applies for her dream job to become an astronaut. However she then meets a man who she marries and becomes pregnant. 
  21. Selene, a human and the one fated to free Chaos, is born on earth to Theia. Selene’s mom is obsessed with being an astronaut and is also an abusive and terrible mother. 
  22. Starting in childhood, Selene receives visions of Ophion trying to reach her and influence her life to stop her from freeing Chaos. As Ophion is an Eldritch God though, her brain can only make sense of what it is seeing by comparing the image to a 20th century astronaut suit like her mom will one day wear, and that they have images of in the house. (Remember one of Ophion’s forms looks like the head of an astronaut suit). Selene calls this the “White Shadow.” She always asks her mom “do you see the white shadow?” 
  23. One day while Selene's mom is driving, Ophion flashes in front of the car. Selene screams which causes her mom to swerve and crash off a bridge into a lake. This was intentional on Ophion's part, it wants to kill Selene for the good of the universe. 
  24. Selene survives and her mom is crippled by spinal trauma, leading to the end of her dreams of being an astronaut. She blames Selene for this and becomes even more abusive towards her. 
  25. At some point, Selene's father leaves them. Selene convinces herself the white shadow is nothing and ruined her family, banishing it from her mind though at the cost of her mental well-being (along with being abused). 
  26. Her resentment towards her mother grows as she becomes her caretaker, and she retaliates by keeping the wheelchair bound woman in her basement, abusing her mom in return.
  27. Eventually Selene burns down the home with her mother in the basement, leaving her mother to die but framing it as an accident. 
  28. Selene grows up with her own dreams of becoming an astronaut. Part of this is simply to spite her abusive mother, though she never acknowledges this. 
  29. Selene is on course to become an astronaut for Astra. 
  30. Selene ends up getting pregnant with her son Helios. This puts her career goals on ice, though she tries to convince herself this child will be a gift to her. 
  31. Selene is miserable in her life as a single mother and ends up neglecting and abusing her own child as well, like her mother seeing the child as the killer of her dreams. She  attends therapy and takes medication to try and cope. 
  32. Unknown to Selene, Ophion now reaches out to Helios, who also sees the god as an astronaut for the same reasons his mother did. This white shadow becomes his imaginary friend and coping mechanism.
  33. One day while they are driving over the same bridge Helios asks Selene “do you see the white shadow?” This shocks her and distracts her from the road, and like her and her mother before, she drives off the bridge and crashes into the lake. 
  34. Selene frees herself from the wreck, but consciously or not she sees a way to be free once again to pursue her own life, and leaves Helios to drown in the wreck.
  35. “Free” from her son Selene returns to Astra to continue training and undergo psychiatric evaluation. Astra is hesitant but their new program will likely never see candidates return to earth, so Selene having no attachments makes her an ideal candidate. 
  36. Selene’s mission takes her into deep space far beyond the edges of the galaxy and near a cosmic void. 
  37. While scouting Selene picks up a signal repeating “do you see the white shadow?” Note that this is Ophion trying to use the two most traumatizing moments of her life to keep Selene away from the signal, but as we have seen Selene is kind of a narcissist and sociopath and so all of Ophion's plans actually only end up drawing her to Atropos. Remember she is FATED to free Chaos, all attempts to stop her are in vain. 
  38. Selene breaks protocol and lands on Atropos, where the game occurs.
  39. She defeats Nemesis and time on Atropos accelerates to catch up to its true age. Selene's mind, to not go crazy, processes this as being saved and living an entire life. In reality the cycle simply starts again on a rapidly deteriorated planet. 
  40. Selene silences the music keeping Chaos at rest, and quickly finds herself pulled towards the center of the planet with an increasing necessity. 
  41. Selene faces Algos but because he creates the cycle he is never actually defeated. 
  42. Selene descends into the depths and defeats Ophion. 
  43. Selene frees Chaos, and I doing so ends all of reality and the universe, returning it to Chaos.

 

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u/Sufficient-Fan-5177 — 2 months ago