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Predictions/rant for Mirajane [discussion]

If I’m being honest, I truly believe Mirajane’s fight is gonna be trashy on Mira’s part. I’m hopeful in that they’ll do her justice, but it’s hard to believe they’ll happen, anyways about the prediction:

~It’ll probably start with Angel already down, Mirajane is using her Base Satan Soul to try to keep up but it doesn’t work. She then shows us her new form, Mirajane Daemon. This’ll give her control and manipulation of acid just like Daemon herself. Seeing as Mirajane Seilah doesn’t have any restrictions in terms of how the power works, I assume Mira will be able to use intangibility and atmospheric manipulation. Unfortunately we know Mirajane, it won’t work, Scissor Runner will bypass it with his magic. Now I don’t think her intangibility will be completely useless in the beginning, but his magic will probably bypass it in some way to where it’ll become useless in his hands.

To the 2nd part: Mirajane will eventually get beat up pretty bad to where she can’t keep up on her own, and this is where Cobra comes in, I already made predictions on how Cobra will most likely be the one to help Mirajane, maybe we’ll even see a unison raid with Mirajane Daemon’s Acid and Cobra’s poison. Now this is another scenario: Mirajane gets beat up, and then Cobra fights Scissor Runner on his own and Mirajane will not only get a fight stolen, she’ll get downplayed hard by the fandom.

Rant:
I personally see Mirajane losing with ease somehow and Cobra stealing the fight which is very unfortunate. Mirajane has had one of the WORST showings in 100 year quest, her only good battle was when she fought Daemon, which I’m so proud of her because Daemon has pretty good hax and abilities that some people can’t even bypass, but Daemon is heavily downplayed because she fought Mirajane, and it just goes to show how bad Mira’s résumé is in the fandom’s eyes.

I also don’t see Mirajane getting Juvia treatment. Juvia was done “right” in terms of growth with gray and critical thinking. I guess you can say that she also has an upscale by being able to override a DRAGON’S magic within less than 10 seconds while doing other things and being distracted by Gray. I just PRAY that they don’t do Mirajane dirty. She’s the ONLY S-Class wizard that hasn’t had a good showing at all despite being still only 2nd strongest girl in the FT Guild, unfortunately feats and powerful opponents are her kryptonite…she’s even below Juvia in that category.

u/ThatAlps8091 — 2 days ago

My theory on Arvo

I honestly really hate Arvo, he was a terrible character, and everyone were sticking out their neck for someone who was a danger to the group..and my theory made me not like him even more.

The thing is, Arvo blames Clem and Jane for robbing him, I personally never choose to rob him so I’m justified to not like him but I always wondered why Arvo lied when we clearly didn’t rob him. I guess you can say that Jane technically robbed him of his gun, but I don’t think that’s really a good justification of attacking a group with a baby seeing as his group had advanced guns compared to Arvo.

So my theory is that Arvo STOLE at least some of those pills and medicine from his own group. Of course there are some plot holes on how that would work, but I believe that he was only not blamed for stealing because of his sister, seeing as his sister was sick, I think Arvo and Natasha (his sister) were plotting and scheming for the resources of their group. There’s some points that back this up as well:
~ He was hiding the bag of medicine, there should’ve been no reason to hide them in the first place, why wouldn’t he just bring the bag to his own group..?
~ The entire group seems to be selfish, I’m calling it as I see it, they all seem selfish, it would give Arvo and Natasha to hide and keep the medicine for themselves because she is sick.

Honestly this is all just a stretch, but it does make sense to an extent, it also gives more depth into Arvo and what kind of character he’s been showing. He makes himself look weak and pathetic, he gets sympathy, and then he backstabs his allies.

u/ThatAlps8091 — 2 days ago

Noelle Silva vs. Yuno Grinberryall in each arc..

  1. ⁠Beginning of Series/Magic Knight Entrance Exam: Yuno, No Difficulty
    ~ Noelle has no magic control at all, she couldn’t even aim correctly, while Yuno was able to take down a Noble.

  2. ⁠Dungeon Exploration Arc - Royal Capital Assult: Yuno, No-Low Difficulty
    ~ Yuno was able to keep up with Mars and has Sylph, while Noelle has 1 defensive spell but it wouldn’t be enough..at all.

  3. ⁠Seabed Temple - Witches’ Arc: Noelle, Mid - High Difficulty
    ~ Noelle learned even more powerful spells, Sea Dragon’s Roar brought down two members of EOTMS, and she was able to block an attack from Salamander/Fana who is at least Large Country to Continental. We also don’t see any good growth from Yuno that could compare him to Noelle at this time.

  4. ⁠Royal Knights Exam: Yuno, Low Difficulty
    ~ Yuno is leagues above Noelle in terms of stats and power. He was also shown to have mana-zone or at least a mini form of it.

5a. Elf Reincarnation Arc (Pre-Zephyr): Yuno, Mid Difficulty
~ Noelle gains Valkyrie Armor which would put her closer to Yuno’s stats and power, but Yuno gets stronger with the elven power. It’s also confirmed in this time he has mana-zone, while Noelle only manages to have a mini form of mana-zone that surrounds her armor.

5b. Elf Reincarnation Arc (Post-Zephyr): Yuno, Very Low Difficulty
~ Yuno not only gets a weapon, but gets a power-up in stats and power that Noelle wouldn’t be able to handle, she most likely wouldn’t be able to keep up even in her Valkyrie Armor.

  1. Heart Kingdom Joint Stuggle/Post Time-Skip: Noelle, Extreme Difficulty
    ~ Noelle handled and kept up with Vanica on a whole different level than Zenon (Noelle was powered up at this time), and then she was able to damage Vanica without the power up, something Yuno couldn’t do.

7a. Spade Kingdom Invasion (Pre-Star Magic): Noelle, High-Extreme Difficulty
~ Noelle no-diffed Vanica within 30 seconds, I see a lot of people saying “Vanica was nerfed by Charlotte” which is half true, the thing is Vanica’s curse magic was nerfed, not her initial blood magic, Yuno couldn’t handle 100% Zenon even with Langris’ help who is a greater threat than Charlotte. Also, Charlotte’s nerfing wasn’t that much of a huge change because Charlotte was already damaged, and Megicula/Vanica both were easily overriding it enough to nearly fight at full power.

7b. Spade Kingdom Invasion (Post-Star Magic): Yuno, Low Difficulty
~ Yuno easily takes this, he was able to handle devil heart Zenon, while Noelle couldn’t take on Megicula who still wasn’t fully manifested.

  1. Judgement Day/Final Saga - Wizard King Battle against Asta: Yuno, Low Difficulty
    ~ Noelle was able to handle Acier and a Lucius clone at the same time, even Yuno struggled a little against 1 Lucius clone in the beginning, but Yuno drastically got stronger over time, he also was powering everyone that was fighting which was nerfing his own potent power. He was also able to keep up with the real Lucius who is significantly more powerful than Acier and the Lucius clone Noelle kept up with.
u/ThatAlps8091 — 4 days ago

BC vs. Naruto

1 wizard king + 8 captains vs. 1 Hokage + 8 sensei’s:

Team BC: Julius, Yami, Dorothy, Yami, Jack, Nozel, Fuegoleon, Charlotte, Nacht

VS

Team Naruto/Boruto: Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi, Might Guy, Minato, Tsunade, Jiraya, Konohamaru, Orochimaru

u/ThatAlps8091 — 6 days ago

Nacht being the biggest hypocrite in Black Clover…

I’m sorry but..I’m rereading/rewatching and I cannot get over how he tried to treat the Black Bulls when he first met them…

So to start off he talks about how everyone has their flaws, and then goes on to say that when people try to change themselves it disgusts him, so basically he hates people who try to change themselves for the better..which is really weird because isn’t he posing as his brother..? Didn’t he quite literally steal his looks…? Right..and then he talks about how people should do things right the first time and everyone is a loser..mind you he got his brother killed, he couldn’t even do the devil hosting ritual correctly which resulted in him LOSING the chance of being a supreme devil host, he got his brother killed..he REALLY needs to watch out who he tries to call out..

I was hoping Vanessa or Gauche would clap back and try to stand up to him, but out of all people it was Grey who stood up for everyone which I loved for her.

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u/ThatAlps8091 — 6 days ago

Anchor being the biggest disappointment in FT history…[Discussion]

I’m BEYOND disappointed in Anchor…he kept getting countered by Juvia…out of all people. And then completely lost to Gray and Juvia’s magic despite none of them being dragon slayers…no one can change my mind that Anchor is currently the weakest Calamity Blood..

Anchor has been a fodder his ENTIRE debut…

- He got cut my Juvia, albeit it was his own water and magic that cut him, but the fact that he let her even get that close…

- Not killing Juvia. I’m sorry but that was so embarrassing for him…so you’re telling me Juvia was able to get captured, find out her water was sealed, figure out how to override his spell, say sorry to Gray, actually break the chains, and then create a water clone in all less than 5-10 seconds…? Like really…?

- Getting beat by Juvia and Gray…mind you Gray used a Devil Destruction Bow, and that didn’t even hurt Anchor, he actually caught it…and then as soon as Gray freezes Juvia’s body and they clash, Juvia overpowers him..? Like seriously..?

The fact that he thinks that he’s stronger than Mercphobia is baffling to me..because his entire fight was just disgraceful…

I’ve seen a lot of people complain about Earth Build, but he dealt with Lucy and Wendy without even trying, and then he actually kept up with Igneel and then came out nearly unscathed after his brief battle with him, ultimately losing to an empowered Natsu..like it was disappointing but not as much as Anchor was losing to Gray and the weakest member of fairy tail that’s currently active in battle..

u/ThatAlps8091 — 6 days ago

My predictions for Lucy and Wendy…[discussion]

Lucy and Wendy vs Wed was the absolute highlight of chapter 211, the way they took charge and countered Wed was absolutely amazing compared to the recent chapters and fights. But I do have a few predictions.

  1. Wed will get help from someone. I’m not sure who, but I have a feeling someone will join in. Maybe even that person can heal Wed to fight in mint condition, which will leave Lucy to fight Wed on her own, and Wendy to fight the person who helped Wed.
  2. Wed will have some type of power up to heal and fight in good condition. I honestly don’t see him fighting in the state he’s in. He most likely will use a dragonization form to fight Lucy and Wendy simultaneously.
  3. Lucy will be getting a new SDM. Seeing as we saw Lucy with an axe which was amazing, I have a feeling she’ll use a Taurus form, personally, I can see her using a Taurus x Scorpio form. This will give her control over sand, a massive speed boost, and strength with an axe that will help her keep up with Wed. I also see her using a new combo spell. I’m not sure if people remember, but Scorpio and Taurus was able to use a Unison Raid spell that allowed Taurus to create a dense attack around the axe to attack along with Scorpio’s sand that created a massive sand storm. This would be affective against Wed seeing as he has a fire sword, and I feel like Lucy will be able to move more effectively seeing as whenever she gets a SD or SDM, it either focuses on only power, strength, or speed. This Star Dress Mix would give her all three.
  4. The last one is Lucy and Wendy just fight the weakened Wed, they somehow struggle which will make them look weak and then just finish him off with a combo attack. I really hope this one doesn’t happen though.
u/ThatAlps8091 — 7 days ago

About anti-magic…

I’ve seen people downplay Asta and anti-magic because people think “it just negates magic, it’s not a visible thing.” People also think he’s weak outside of his verse because others don’t use magic…so I’m gonna debunk those claims..

  1. Asta has to scale to his opponents:
    The entire show, Asta was still struggling against people with magic..because you NEED to scale to your opponent…it doesn’t matter if anti-magic is 100 or 300, if magic is 1000, magic will overpower it since it scales significantly higher. If he didn’t need to scale to his opponents such as Lucius or paladins, he wouldn’t have to train at all, he’d just immediately win..

  2. “Asta focuses on nullification and it wouldn’t work and it’s invisible”:
    This is just a lie…anti magic is just a different energy in Black Clover, it’s just a thing like negative mana, it’s a negative energy that happens to nullify magic, anti-magic needs power behind it for it to be able to compare to the opponent like I said earlier. Also it’s not invisible, we know this because his black Asta form is visible, that form is pure anti magic, just like any other form, it’s just a different type of energy; Anti-Magic was never truly called anti-magic, it’s just a trait it has so it took the name..we also see how Asta was able to destroy a physical boulder with anti magic + zetten, so he’s been able to overcome his physical weakness against anti-magic..Mimosa and Zora even felt the anti -magic, they state that it’s a sinister feeling, this is proof that it’s just a different type of energy, meaning it could work against outside his verse because..it’s just energy..if people think anti-magic wouldn’t work against other verses, magic shouldn’t work either because it works the same..Anti-magic just has the hax to nullify magic…anti-magic might not nullify other verse’s energy and power system’s completely, but it would work in terms of clashing and other things. Zetten increases that, it increases Ki as well, which just heightens his power.

Don’t be fooled by the name, just because it’s named “anti-magic,” doesn’t mean that’s the only use of it, especially now that Asta has Zetten. We can also think of Zetten as a form of Chakra. Ki/Zetten is a spiritual/life energy like Chakra.

u/ThatAlps8091 — 14 days ago

So I’m going to try to scale Noelle as accurately as possible in the most important arcs.

Underwater Temple-Witch Forest:
I’d say she’s at least country level-continental..

- She was able to do the most damage on her own to Vetto who is at least country seeing as the 3rd eye are relative to each other. She even forced him into using Forbidden Magic

- She managed to bring down salamander, and stated in the Databooks, salamander had the power to evaporate/vaporize the ocean which is at least a continental feat, she was also able to bypass 2 spells with considerable ease from salamander and Fana.

Elf Reincarnation Arc:
I’d say she’s still stuck at the Continental level at this time.

- As we SHOULD know, stats grow along with the user’s power, meaning Noelle is obviously stronger than her previous version, also meaning her spells grow stronger…she also was able to fight an even stronger Fana (I do believe Fana would’ve definitely did better if Salamader was with her but it’s ok). Fana did lose her DC but I think her AP and Forbidden magic should make up for it. Also considering Noelle was able to overpower her, kill her (technically), and outdo her in speed, Noelle is clearly at least relevant in power to her.

Joint Stuggle Arc:
I believe Noelle is a low tier of multi continental at this point.

- I personally believe that this one is the hardest because Noelle receives help from Loropechika and did very little to no damage but then she was able to do some damage to Vanica without help..but she’s obviously stronger than her previous version seeing as she has mana method + she was able to keep up with a threat that was possibly stronger than the Wizard kings in the movie (that is canon btw) + the dark triad were stated to be equal or at least VERY close in power in that point of time, meaning she’s just below/relative to Yuno and Asta featwise.

Spade Kingdom Invasion:
She’s absolutely Multi-Continental during this time.

- Again just in case people don’t remember, as long as your power grows, so does your stats, proof of this is that we saw it with Magna when he fought Dante. Anyways, this round Vanica was at 100% devil power and she easily overpowered Charlotte and Rill. Noelle easily handled Vanica, like it was truly embarrassing…she did her in 30 seconds or less, on top of that she did no damage to Noelle while Noelle blitzed and overpowered nearly every single spell Vanica did, albeit she was slightly weakened by Charlotte’s power, but I don’t think it was that heavy of an influence seeing as she easily was able to bypass it to continue fighting and almost instantly overpower Charlotte. I won’t add Noelle vs Megicula seeing as she had help, and she did really nothing to Megicula herself, she just had the “hax” to destroy a devil’s heart which gave her the win factor.

Judgement Day/Final Saga:
Now…this is where Noelle is at minimum multi-continental to max being Small Planetary.

- Now…this should be common sense, but remember Asta was able to destroy a threat that was easily a multi-continental to moon level feat in the movie (pre-joint struggle), Current Noelle is obviously stronger than that Asta, easily proving the scaling is correct. We see Noelle fighting Acier, and she was keeping up and contending with her. We can add the fact that Noelle was fighting not just Acier, but also a Lucius clone making her relevant to Lucius clones. We also see how when Acier used another magic type, potentially doubling her power and Noelle able to counter it with her own magic, meaning Noelle was able to probably double her magic power meaning she was holding back. After all that, she was able to obliterate Acier’s near-immortal body with her. This is honestly super hard to even scale because of Yuno’s Neverland, but I don’t think it monumentally boosts the power, especially since it was so spread out, and I find it being more important to make sure Lucius isn’t able to use time magic because that’s a hax that no one was able to counter besides Yuno and Asta.

Also about my statement on the part where I mention Asta and the movie, I get that he was empowered by the Imperial Sword which gave him a power boost…but Paladin Acier and clone Lucius is far above that version of Asta AND Conrad at this point, Noelle was able to keep up with both of them and last long enough before Vanessa and Grey showed up after a while because they were fighting Damnatio and a few other things.

u/ThatAlps8091 — 15 days ago

I’ve been rereading the manga, and I just realized how dirty she was done the entire manga/anime.

  1. Acier’s Death: I honestly love the concept of how she died, it was amazing and eveything..but it was so disappointing of how they killed her off so easily..for someone who was wizard king level, mind you Conrad was wizard king at the time (I think)..Conrad was able to hold off Yami, Mereoleona, Fuegoleon, Kaiser, and Julius himself (at that time), and that’s who she was rivaled with..while in the manga during her fight, Vanica able to keep up with her..albeit she was more focused on protecting Noelle and Nozel, it was just so sad seeing her die to Vanica, but I do feel like they did her some kind of justice because she was putting belt on Vanica so bad she needed a high level curse to even bring Acier to her knees, we can’t just forget how Acier was still able to fight and Vanica fled as soon as Acier started getting serious..all that being said, it’s still understandable why Vanica was able to barely keep up with Acier, after all she had to protect her children and she was still in recovery seeing as her body just went through physical trauma and pregnancy does take a lot out of someone…

  2. Becoming a Paladin: I also loved this a lot. Being a fan of Noelle, I always loved Acier because like..what’s not to like..? Or even what’s there to hate..? But the way she was treated was absolutely ridiculous. A wizard king level mage with such a disappointing take off was absolutely insane..almost to EVERY Paladin had an OP hax or power, besides Acier..she had steel and water..the most unhaxed magic types of all time…I love a brute strength queen but omg it was so crazy..and then being off-screened by Mereoleona with such ease..anyways..I had a theory on Acier and how she would’ve played another role, as we saw, it seemed like Lucius was making a tree of sort, and I though Acier with water, Morgen with light, and Morris with earth was something special for a specific moment but it turned out to be nothing but coincidence, I personally would’ve loved to see her with Megicula’s curse warding magic. It would’ve brought back some relevance to Megicula, one of the most influential and important characters of black clover, but also..Acier was literally stuck with her for the last 16 years (?). It doesn’t match her fighting style but it’s better than giving her water magic just because her daughter had it…it also sucks that she was 2nd to Morgen because out of ALL the paladins, her human counterpart was the strongest out of all human counterparts of the paladins..

I just overall loved the story and everything, I just wish Acier was given more attention seeing as she was a wizard king level mage who was known by even Wizard kings and top tier characters for her beauty and refined strength and magic.

u/ThatAlps8091 — 16 days ago

I’m wondering how strong she truly is because, she was able to keep herself young for over 500 years, and she said that the elves rivaled her power, meaning she was at least equal or above the elves..

I’m also wondering on why she didn’t ask Charmy to help her regain all her magic power because she could easily still be the queen, maybe the healing took away the pocket of magic power she had that doesn’t get replenished after its use, but that was never really explicitly stated or mentioned at all, it could also be a possibility that it was a curse she had stored and when she uses it, that curse power goes away but I’m not sure..

Also, she could’ve been talking about her life-force itself which is the most likely outcome.

u/ThatAlps8091 — 16 days ago

I honestly believe he did, because it’s been hinted as her familiar similar to Asta with Liebe, it also keeps her very relevant in power which has been important to the story..but I’m not sure…I’m heavily certain that he does stay because he was even drawn in the cover for the new chapters.

If people are worried about Leviathan going back into slumber, it’s heavily unlikely that he goes back to sleep…according to Thomas Hobbes’s philosophy, Leviathan does not go back into slumber and he stays awake after being awoken..

u/ThatAlps8091 — 17 days ago

Team BC:
- Leopold Vermillion
- Mimosa Vermillion
- Luck Voltia
- Rill Boismortier
- Langris Vaude
- Charmy Pappitson
- Gauche Adlai
- Gaja
- Charlotte Roselei

Vs

Team Naruto:
- Gaara
- Sakura Haruno
- Might Guy
- Tsunade Senju
- Neji Hyūga
- Temari
- Mei Terumī
- Tenten
- Chōji Akimichi

Black Clover characters are in their Spade Kingdom Invasion Arc versions.

Naruto characters are in their Fourth Great Ninja War Arc versions.

u/ThatAlps8091 — 18 days ago

I honestly think so..at the very least he’s very close to equal to Fuegoleon..

I understand why people might disagree..but honestly it seems like he’s on his level..

  1. Fuegoleon hasn’t done anything recently that I know of. We literally see him trying to fight with Mereoleona but he gets casted aside and Mereoleona handles Morris on her own (albeit she had help from comrades, she literally brought them back with her own magic so she kinda did it on her own because it was her own magic). This was even pre-advancement of the paladins and angels, after that we see fuegoleon do close to nothing…
  2. His power-up put him on another level. He was able to put the mana method on his body. This means he’s able to use natural mana around him and that ADDS to his own mana, it also makes his magic stronger… when we saw something similar, it’s with Gaja and Finral, the difference is Finral uses them to make his movements faster, and Gaja is able to produce more (?) Lightning. If that’s the case, Leopold not only produces more fire, his stats can easily be way higher than his “base” form. Also, Kirsch, Mereoleona, and Fuegoleon even saw how much he’s grown.

I’m not sure if this is the case, but when Mereoleona and Fuegoleon ask for his help, he was able to add runes to the entire spell that all three were casting, I’d say that’s a pretty good feat. Again, I’m not sure if that was just runes because it was a very high concentrated magic spell, but before there were no runes, and when Leo joins, there were a few runes powering the spell, and as we know I’d say Leo probably has the best mastery over the runes and mana method out of all the characters that were trained with them..we also never see Mereoleona or Fuegoleon use runes but again…this one is quite a stretch, I wouldn’t argue if someone was able to disagree with a reasonable argument.

u/ThatAlps8091 — 18 days ago

If I’m being honest, Sol was such a waste and she DESERVED the Earth Spirit. Feramina seemed like a rushed character to just introduce the Earth Spirit. Mind you, Sol’s spells are named after Mother Earth/Earth Goddess, her spells even look like the Earth Spirt. We can think of it as how Noelle was able to connect with the Sea Dragon, Leviathan, I think they could’ve made a connection just like that. She deserved a moment of power, as I see it, I think all squads deserve at least 1 powerful knight besides the captain, but unfortunately that doesn’t happen. I just think she deserved so much more attention seeing as she’s the very first earth magic user introduced and only one who has used Earth Magic before the few final chapters.

u/ThatAlps8091 — 20 days ago

He’s such an underrated character, much like Sol, Kirsch, Dorothy, and even the spirit guardians.

Leopold is a royal, not just a royal but he’s from House Vermillion, they’ve given so much light on Mereoleona and Fuegoleon which I am happy for, but he should’ve given Leopold a real moment. His best and only showing was when he learned True Magic and it was amazing, unfortunately his opponent was not really strong.

If I’m being honest, he should’ve gotten Ultimate magic like Mimosa, Luck, and Gaia. It’s very unfortunate because Mereoleona out of all people got Ultimate magic which immediately put her at least top 6 in the verse. I’m glad he was able to take out the guardian Angels which puts him relative to Langris who can literally erase space but he’s so underwhelming as a character it’s not even funny, honestly he’s way more qualified for Ultimate Magic than Mereoleona. Not saying she doesn’t deserve it, but he’s works so hard, I mean he’s literally Asta’s rival, they should’ve given more shining seeing as Asta even acknowledged him as a rival.

Now that Black Clover is over, it’s so unfortunate that so many characters fall behind that deserve it so much, especially someone who works hard like Leopold. I’m just glad we saw how powerful he is by putting mana method spells on his own body to make him even more powerful, this is also something we’ve never seen before so it was amazing, it’s also similar on how Mereoleona turns her body into literal and pure mana.

u/ThatAlps8091 — 20 days ago

I know Vanessa is plenty strong now, and I’m sure she’s gotten stronger by EOS, but I wonder how strong she could’ve been if she stayed with the Witch Queen.

Back in the Joint Struggle arc, Vanessa Vanessa trained but it wasn’t enough, especially in front of Dante when he attacks. Later on, of course she trains and she joins the battle to get Yami, and when Lucifero joins the fray, Vanessa was able to hold her own and still manipulate fate despite Lucifero being WAY stronger than Dante.

I’m just wondering how strong she could’ve been since the Witch Queen obviously knows her magic better than almost even Vanessa herself. She could’ve trained her to be even as strong as the Witch Queen herself, she even saw Vanessa as worthy of taking the Witch Queen title. Although the Witch Queen was gonna take over Vanessa and control her and her magic, that wouldn’t take away how strong Vanessa could’ve been.

u/ThatAlps8091 — 20 days ago

I honestly felt so bad for her, she had to deal with the bandits, and then had her child stolen and harmed by monsters, most likely harmed herself, and then killed by an even bigger monster (Danny).

I never really understood or even had thoughts about when Jolene said “all men are monsters” until I actually grew up. What I mean by this is I had no idea that her daughter was harmed when I first played this game when I was like 8-10, and what’s very weird that someone named Linda, a woman, helped with the act of harming and killing a little girl.

I don’t think it was right for her to try to steal Clementine, but she obviously was not mentally there, she had no one to help her, and she was alone.

These kind of people (the bandits) do exist, they wait for vulnerable moments such as a crisis like an apocalypse to show their true colors because they think they have nothing to be afraid of anymore.

u/ThatAlps8091 — 20 days ago