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If given the opportunity what kind of magic would u choose?

Well black clover has many different types of magic with a wide variety and range.if u had the choice which magic would u pick. i would either pick ice magic or shield magic or maybe severing magic

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u/divine_swordking — 6 hours ago

Strength of Star Magic

Now, while we already know most of Star Magic’s capabilities, I still want to discuss both its currently known powers and some of its other potential abilities.

The main ability of Star Magic is the creation and control of stars that can act somewhat independently. Furthermore, unlike most other forms of magic where attacks originate directly from the caster, Star Magic allows the user to create multiple stars across the battlefield which can interact with space separately from the user themselves. Because of this the attribute has an incredible amount of battlefield control simply because every star itself effectively becomes another launch point from which users of Star Magic are able to launch more spells.

Another major ability of Star Magic itself is spatial manipulation through the stars themselves. We can see this most clearly with Conjunction, which gives the user the power to instantly move between any stars they have already placed. This is a tremendous advantage in combat because it can completely change how battlefield positioning works. The user is no longer restricted by physical movement and can instead instantly reposition themselves around the battlefield, evade attacks, close distance, or appear behind opponents with almost no warning.

This ability also makes Star Magic extremely difficult to counter because opponents can’t focus their attention on the user’s current location. Every star itself acts as both a threat and a possible destination, meaning enemies are constantly forced to divide their attention between multiple positions at once. Even powerful defensive fighters can quickly become overwhelmed because attacks are no longer limited to things like line of sight.

Outside of mobility, the stars themselves also possess tremendous offensive capabilities. The user can fire concentrated beams of mana from the stars, as well as being able to overwhelm enemy spells through sheer magical output. Since these attacks can originate from multiple stars simultaneously, Star Magic naturally excels at being able to apply pressure from multiple directions at once. This makes defending against Star Magic extremely difficult because blocking one attack still leaves you vulnerable to attacks launched from the other stars already scattered across the battlefield.

Another major aspect of Star Magic is the way the stars seem to be able to act as fixed points within space itself. Once they’re established, the stars influence the surrounding battlefield through their presence alone, anchoring sections of space and mana around them. This allows the user to exert control over multiple areas at once rather than attacking from only a single position.

The stars also seem to possess some light based properties that likely have more possible applications than what Yuno has currently unlocked the ability to use. For example, the intense light emitted from the stars could potentially overwhelm sensory abilities, or interfere with an opponent’s ability to properly track the user’s movements. Because the stars can also act independently, they potentially could illuminate the battlefield and make ambush tactics significantly harder to use against the caster.

Another benefit of Star Magic is how naturally it scales with the size of the battlefield. Many magic attributes can become harder to manage across larger areas because the user has to constantly extend their mana outward manually, excluding Mana Zone usages. Star Magic however avoids this issue because once the stars are established, they continue to function as independent points of influence. This means that the user can gradually take complete control over larger and larger portions of the battlefield simply by increasing the number of stars present. In large scale combat situations, this becomes extremely dangerous because the entire battlefield can slowly transform into territory controlled by the user.

At the same time however, Star Magic does appear to have several possible weaknesses and limitations. One drawback is that the attribute seems heavily dependent on preparation and star placement. The user’s mobility and spatial control becomes dangerous once enough stars have been established around the battlefield. However, during the opening stages of combat, before multiple stars are created, Star Magic can potentially be underwhelming. This means that for example, aggressive opponents who attack immediately are able to pressure a Star Magic user before they can fully establish battlefield control.

Another possible limitation is that the stars themselves may require a constant source of mana. Since the stars continue to exist independently after being formed, thus maintaining multiple stars across a battlefield likely places an ever increasing strain on the user. This could become especially problematic during prolonged battles where the user must continuously create new stars while also using offensive and teleporting spells.

Additionally, despite how versatile Star Magic appears, most of its shown applications still revolve around the stars functioning as anchors for movement and offense. Compared to attributes that directly manipulate concepts and elements, Star Magic itself seems to be focused primarily on things like battlefield positioning, ranged spells, and spatial control. Thus, while extremely powerful, its applications have the potential to become repetitive if the user relies too heavily on teleportation and beam attacks without developing more versatile spells.

Now that we’ve talked about what Star Magic is able to do canonically, we can move on to some theory crafting for some possible applications for Star Magic that we haven’t seen but I think are possible.

One possibility is that the stars could eventually manipulate space far more directly instead of just teleportation. For instance, instead of only moving between stars, the user might be able to distort the space connecting them. This could allow them to do things like compress distances, stretch space apart, redirect attacks through warped pathways, or even trap enemies inside the distorted sections of space where movement becomes disoriented and escape becomes extremely difficult.

Another potential application is gravity manipulation. Since actual stars possess enormous mass and gravitational pull, Star Magic could potentially evolve to imitate those properties. A more advanced user might be able to generate immense pressure around stars to pin down opponents, bend incoming attacks off course, and even create collapse points that drag everything inward before exploding outward with high amounts of raw energy.

Mana Zone while used by a Star Magic mage could also allow the user to create moving constellations instead of individual isolated stars. Different formations of stars might produce entirely different effects depending on how they are arranged. One constellation could focus on offense while another enhances mobility or suppresses enemy mana. This would make Star Magic far more dynamic because the user would no longer rely on individual spells alone, but on entire interconnected systems of stars functioning together.

Another possible application is sensory enhancement. If every star acts as an extension of the user’s awareness, then spreading stars throughout the battlefield could effectively give the user omnidirectional perception. They could monitor mana fluctuations, detect movement from blind spots, and react to attacks almost instantly regardless of where they originate from.

At its absolute peak, Star Magic feels like it could evolve beyond normal combat magic almost entirely. As rather than simply fighting opponents directly, the user can gradually create an artificial universe around the battlefield itself. Every star would serve a purpose within a multifunctioned system. Some stars would be used to attack, others would distort space, while some could potentially heal or reinforce allies.

u/yourGodlylead — 10 hours ago

Demon-Slayer: the OG sword and the only one we never got to really see in its pre-anti-magic form. It would have been cool to see it all elegant and silver, maybe even see how Lichtt used it.

u/BlackKnight_2099 — 15 hours ago

What are Grimoires Actually Writing Down?

Now we know canonically that spells are written down inside Grimoires, but what I wanna know is what’s specifically being written.

One idea I have is that the Grimoire essentially records a chant or incantation that explains how the spell is possible to perform even without access to the Grimoire itself. Since magic in the series is heavily tied to visualization and growth, this would include things such as a description of the spell’s appearance alongside its function, mechanics, and capabilities so the user can properly imagine and manifest it.

Another idea I have is that Grimoires contain something more like a scientific breakdown of how the spell works, but written in a way the user can naturally understand. For example, if both an engineer and a physicist received the same spell, the physicist’s Grimoire might explain it through universal laws and theoretical concepts, while the engineer’s would explain it through practical systems and mechanical principles.

u/yourGodlylead — 10 hours ago

If you lived in the Clover Kingdom, which Magic Knight squad would you join and why?

u/Anmol210707 — 21 hours ago

Why didn’t Asta bring Fuegolion witches healing magic? Is he stupid?

He healed the leg of the dancing guy but didn’t think fuegolion could use his arm back?

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u/PawnF4 — 20 hours ago

If you were a citizen of the Clover Kingdom would you be satisfied with the current Wizard King. EOS

Personally? No, I wouldn't be.

From the perspective of a Clover Kingdom citizen Yuno seems like the much better candidate.

  • Yuno was the Vice Captain, and Wartime promoted Captain, of the most popular and decorated magic knights squad
  • During his first six months as a magic knight he contributed more stars than anyone in his squad
  • During the previous Elf crisis he was seen rescuing multiple people and contributed heavily to the final conflict
  • During the most recent conflict he performed magic on a scale only previously seen by Julius, saving countless lives in the process
  • He then performed an even more impressive piece of magic that allowed the Clover Kingdom to actually fight back
  • He defeated a Lucius clone singlehandedly under his own power, no AM powerups or help
  • He fought God Emperor Lucius alone and successfully held him off while Asta was being healed, with AM powerup

Compare this to Asta:

  • Member of the least decorated magic knights squad
  • During his first six months as a magic knight he contributed more stars than anyone in his squad
    • Due to Sekke people had doubts about the legitimacy of the stars he earned
    • Asta and Yuno's quick clash isn't really sufficient proof that no shady business happened, just a quick example of strength
  • Only two big feats in front of the general populace
    • Beating the Demon
    • Assisting with beating Lucius
  • Nearly killed by God Emperor Lucius
  • Was on trial for being the possible cause of the Elf crisis
    • Absolution doesn't change the fact that he was publicly seen as a possible enemy and devil user. That's a hard opinion to overcome even if it's eventually disproved.
  • He showed up late to the Final Battle

Any other feat performed by Asta will simply be word of mouth to the Clover Kingdom. It's not something that can actually be proved to them. They'd have to trust the word of the Magic Knight Captains.

They would also have no idea how instrumental he was in forming relationships with the other countries or ending the conflict with the Elves.

It's certainly not impossible that members of the public would believe in Asta and the other magic knights, but with Yuno's feats front and center alongside his position as an actual captain it feels like he's simply the better option.

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u/Kokiri_boi — 1 day ago

Asta should do what Shinra did and just get both of them.

Why all the fighting? The guy has two arms, so he can keep both and put Nero in the middle with his Third Wife, problem solved.

If Lucius was in Warhammer 40K what would he do? (PLEASE READ DESCRIPTION BELOW)

As the title says, if Lucius Zogratis was transported into Warhammer 40K what would he do.

To add more detail in this scenario, Lucius arrives on the planet Terra (previously known as Earth) Subaru Natsuki style. This is the 41st Millennium era.
This version of Lucius is where he lost to Asta and Yuno and is at his full power meaning he has access to all the magic types in the grimoire towers/those that he has killed/those he has shown.

So what does he do next?

Also I just have to say but this post isn't entirely related to powerscaling or vsbattles. This post is mainly just a narrative hypothetical of what would happen if you take Black clover strongest antagonist and put him in the Grimdark reality of 40K. So please please please I would appreciate if there weren't comment something like "he solo's the verse" or "Chaos Gods neg diff" that's not what this post is about.

u/iamluffy123 — 1 day ago

who wins? - dragon kingdom of lugunica (re zero) (all camps and everyone else, but subaru and reinhard are banned due to how op they are) or clover kingdom (black clover) (all squads, julius, asta and yuno and everyone else)

however, i ban reinhard and subaru because of:

  • No Reinhard: He is banned because his Divine Protections would just dynamically adapt to create a "Divine Protection against Anti-Magic/Mana," which ruins the debate and just makes this debate a joke and meme.
  • No Subaru: Banned because Return by Death turns any fight into an inevitable win via infinite trial-and-error, which isn't a fair test of current army strength.

this is to prevent those reinhard solos and subaru loops until he gets the perfect sequence of events to win, which isn't fun to debate and only turns this debate into a meme and joke

this is because of my feeling of liking re zero alongside black clover

u/MinimumTip9411 — 1 day ago

Saint Stage

I want a bit of clarification on Saint Stage. Does Saint Stage make the mage stronger? What I mean is that, when we are introduced to Saint Stage it says that when a spirit host and the spirit achieve 100% resonance, their magic gains the ability to purge malice and kill evil (or something along those lines). During the fight with Zagred, Yuno's incomplete Spirit Dive, like Patry and most other non-arcane mages, was unable to affect magic from the Underworld. Yuno had to use his exceptional mana sensing and control to gather up the dispersed mana from Licht and Lumiere's attack (whose magic had been tainted with negative mana) to create Spirit of Zephyr. Since it's partially made of external mana, it absorbs surrounding mana from things it fails to cut and changes it's properties to cut/erode them. By doing so, Yuno sidestepped the Saint Stage qualifications but in a rather limited manner. He had to achieve Saint Stage in order for his magic to become toxic to devils.

All this is to ask whether he actually got stronger or that rather his magic just gained a new property that makes it toxic to devils and he didn't necessarily get a power up. I am still not entirely sure which happened.

Any thoughts?

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How strong would Gadjah be if he could create clones made out of lightning and why didn't Yuki tabata give Gadjah any unique lightning Spell's that no other lightning user has because I don't think we ever saw another Anime lightning user use lightning clones?

u/WoodpeckerOdd1284 — 1 day ago

What's one thing that didn't happen in the manga that you really want to happen in the upcoming anime.

I just wanna see more Dorothy unsworth fights and witch queen fights

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u/No-Air7540 — 1 day ago

I heard in this manga, the Rock Lee/Yamcha esque underdog character GETS HIS WIN and doesnt get it undone.

And a Kenpachi esque guy prevents the bad guy from reviving to ensure it. I really wanna know if this is true and who are the characters.

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u/LovelyFloraFan — 2 days ago