▲ 42 r/HOTDBlacks+2 crossposts

Language notes just revealed possible future spoilers...

Linguist David J. Peterson posts dialogue notes after every episode. He just posted the ones for episode 302. Someone in the comments to them pointed out that it didn't include a line said by the Triarchy soldier that gets shot in front of Aegon and Larys: "What have we here?"

In response...Peterson cryptically said he intentionally left it out:

"I was responsible for that, but wasn't going to include it here."

https://archive.transformativeworks.org/works/87170256/chapters/232269871#workskin

Branches of Low Valyrian

In terms of languages Peterson has invented for the TV series so far, in the Valyrian family he only made High Valyrian and the Eastern/Ghiscari Low Valyrian of Slaver's Bay.

Low Valyrian is like "the Romance Languages" compared to High Valyrian as their Classical Latin. "Nine dialects well on their way to being nine different languages".

For the TV series, Peterson has given lectures on how he sketched out the 3 main sub-branches of Low Valyrian:

  • Eastern, or "Ghiscari" Low Valyrian - in Slaver's Bay, sounds very different due to Ghiscari influence
  • Southern Low Valyrian - spoken from Volantis to Tyrosh, the most conservative that changed the least from High Valyrian (sort of like how Spanish is very close to Latin)
  • Northern Low Valyrian - sort of a hodge-podge because the founders of those cities were disparate religious dissidents or escaped slaves, physically far away from Valyrian's influence - Norvos and Qohor, Lorah and particularly Braavos. Also Pentos (all that Andal influence)

The map I loaded up as the second image on this post is one I drew up for wiki purposes, but reflects Peterson's lecture notes on this.

Why Tyroshi Dialogue is Important

Given that Peterson had only worked on Eastern Low Valyrian by the time GoT ended, we had hoped HotD Season 1 would introduce Southern Low Valyrian when the Crabfeeder and Triarchy pirates showed up. Instead, they only spoke in High Valyrian (archer commander shouting orders etc.)

Peterson explained he was simply too busy, as he had to prioritize inventing the entire Valyrian glyph writing system for Season 1.

Then in Season 2, even when we actually SAW the Triarchy's home base in Tyrosh, we still didn't get any Southern Low Valyrian.

Why this matters for HotD's plot

...Peterson's cryptic remark that he intentionally avoiding giving notes on a single line by a Tyroshi pirate, along with saying "I wasn't going to include it HERE"....strongly implies we're actually going to get a lot more Southern Low Valyrian later this season, and he's saving notes on it for a full explanation after a later episode.

Even though, to our knowledge, we wouldn't - the Triarchy was defeated.

But thinking on it, why else might we see the Triarchy in the back half of the season?

...

Rhaenyra's two sons on a ship bound for Pentos were omitted from the Battle of the Gullet.

Ryan Condal broadly promised that they haven't "forgotten" about them, but they couldn't have small child actors in a big dangerous scary battle sequence (fair enough).

Conclusion: Peterson's remark implies in favor of the suspicion that we WILL see what happened to Young Aegon and Young Viserys, at some later point in Season 3, where one or possibly both of them are revealed to have been captured by Triarchy pirates fleeing the battle (speaking Southern Low Valyrian).

u/TheDragonDemands — 3 days ago
▲ 33 r/HBOMAX

HBO Max International Expansion Map June 2026

Alright, this is my updated comprehensive global expansion map, accounting for the launches of HBO Max yesterday in New Zealand and Vietnam.

Discounting "pariah states" that will never get a direct launch, and that even Disney+ isn't in (North Korea, Russia - I put mainland China dark grey because they only license through Tencent but will never directly launch an international streamer)....

...there are SIX remaining global markets. A far cry from the patchwork that once covered Europe:

  • India (JioHotstar) - just launched a dedicated internal hub for HBO Max content
  • Japan (U-Next) - recently launched a dedicated internal hub for HBO Max content - as we saw with Greece, launching an internal content hub is often a stepping stone to a direct launch in the not too distant future
  • Canada (Bell Media's Crave) - given that Canada is the only country where Paramount already has a direct launch but HBO Max does not, it stands to reason that we haven't heard about a launch there because they're simply waiting to get grandfathered into the new combined streamer after the Paramount-Warner merger
  • South Korea (Coupang) - they've made some efforts to buy up local content packages (another precursor to a direct launch), but they've been toying with that for years. Otherwise we've heard nothing.
  • Middle-East North Africa (MENA) (OSN) - Warner recently bought a one third ownership stake in Dubai-based streamer OSN, which handles Arabic-language streaming across MENA. A direct launch of HBO Max is therefore unlikely, because they don't really need it.
  • Africa (formerly Showmax) - the collapse of Showmax has plunged the region into chaos. Two years ago they seemed to have a strong position but it was due to overexpansion. We're not really sure what's going on with the Africa market now. It's possible that there will be a renewed "Scramble for Africa" in which rather than treating it as one big market, the big streamers will carve up zones of influence (Netflix an exclusive contract in South Africa, HBO Max in Nigeria, Disney+ in Kenya, etc.) -- French language streamer Canal+ did buy up the rights from Showmax but it remains to be seen what kind of service they'll provide, particularly in those top 3 economies of Africa.

We don't know what's happening in the future, there have been no further announcements: for all we know they could be planning India, Japan, and South Korea launches by late 2026 - or maybe not for two years.

In the past year, HBO Max also rounded out to even minor small countries in Asia and Pacific island nations. We can also exclude the pariah states (North Korea, Iran, Afghanistan, Russia) and near-pariah states (mainland China, and while we're at it, Cuba. Because you know...Cuba...).

Two or three others were simply delayed from earlier launches, i.e. Vietnam was delayed from the main Southeast Asia launch but latter added. The ONLY other two delayed are post-Soviet Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan. But they should be added before the year is out.

(Fun Fact: HBO Max's website defines the post-Soviet Central Asia states as part of their Europe branch, but Mongolia and Pakistan are in Asia. There are three major global zones: Americas, EMEA (Europe, Middle-East, Africa), and APAC (Asia-Pacific). But NONE of them have land borders: Kazakhstan and Mongolia are separated by a thin strip of Russia, while Pakistan and Tajikistan are separated by a thin strip of Afghanistan).

Back in 2021 reports had to keep track of all sorts of potential countries and markets HBO Max could expand into: now it's truly down to a list of only SIX - well, four major country markets, plus "MENA" as a single block, and "Africa" is turning into a whole issue...)

The next biggest potential launch is INDIA.

u/TheDragonDemands — 18 days ago