u/Tyronethecrate

I’ve heard a lot about how smart johan is, but let’s see how he fairs against a true manipulator

I see every single power scaler act like this guy is the strongest mf ever and could easily destroy a star when his first appearance is just him getting his ass whooped by everyone except random civilians. Where does bardock scale with just on screen feats?

For me I have:

1:the beyonder (marvel)

2:The one above all (marvel)

3:Lucifer (dc)

4:the presence (dc)

5:Yog-sothoth (lovecraft)

ALSO PLEASE DONT CALL THIS LOW EFFORT I SWEAR THIS IS AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION PLEEE-

Edit: I’ll probably keep updating this list but as a rule I won’t include a character if your main argument is just “tier 0”