u/UCantHndletheTruth

Editing to add other topics in addition to blood

Was looking for some other info and ran across this in the Correspondence Guidlines ( the script the Service Desk uses when they get calls from Elders who are perplexed or directed to by the STF book) re: specifics on blood.

What in the actual *#@&?

Leeches and fertilizer and blood transfusion for pets??

I'm generally not surprised at anything I find ..but this?

Yeah, insanity.

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It is not proper to use leeches in

medical treatment to withdraw blood

from humans. This is a violation of the

sanctity of blood.—w82 6/15 31.

It is not proper for a Christian to ad-

minister a blood transfusion to an ani-

mal owned by him or to authorize an-

other to do so.—w64 2/15 127-8.

As to the proper bleeding of animals

before the flesh is eaten, reference can

be made to the following publications:

g73 5/8 27-8; w73 4/1 224.

The individual Christian can decide

how to dispose of any unbled carcass-

es, such as whether to sell these to a

rendering plant or to use the flesh as bait

in traps.—Deut. 14:21.

Out of respect for God’s directions,

individuals should be encouraged to

avoid deliberately putting to di-

rect use blood or blood products,

such as fertilizer or animal food made

from blood. (Ex. 22:31; Deut. 12:16; w81

10/15 30-1; w64 2/15 127-8)

It is wrong

for a dedicated Christian to traffic in

blood in his own business, such as

by making or selling blood sausage or

deliberately obtaining unbled meat be-

cause customers want it. (w75 4/1 215)

If someone gets involved in such a busi-

ness, help can be offered and time al-

lowed for him to make adjustments.

If

he persists in commercializing blood, he

would eventually have to be disfellow-

shipped, as would a person who chose

to stock and sell idols or tobacco in his

store.

However, it would be left to the

conscience of an individual as to wheth-

er he would work in a rendering plant

where unbled animals were processed

for animal food.

- Resist Satan’s Tactics—Trust In Jehovah and In Jesus

- You Can Win the Battle!

- An Appeal on the Basis of Love

- Cherish “the Privilege of Fearlessly Rendering Sacred Service”

AND this one illustration that is literally every JW chick on Instagram? And the donation hand gesture thing ( exact same as on the app = generated)? In screenshots. BUT that's bad.

The hamster wheel indoctrination in all the articles is off the charts.

Feels like a lazy arse generated attempt ....I promise you if I ran this thru Gemini? It'd say it's not written by a human.

https://www.jw.borg/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=E&prefer=lang&pub=w26&issue=202608 (-b from borg)

Am I the only one?

Screenshots in comments, including the 'bad' example vs what's literally on the JW website.

PS ( can't type the abbreviation A. I anymore or the mods flag it as just that 🤣)

Yep - 'it seems' and 'evidently' and also 'may have' - always precedes made up nonsense! They're consistent, at least.

https://www.jw.borg/finder?srcid=jwlshare&alias=daily-text&date=20260519&wtlocale=E

I wonder if they had a spirit annointed Xerox machine and a company credit card to do all their copying?

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It seems that they were the ones who performed the “helpful services” that the apostle Paul wrote about.

Ministerial servants evidently cared for necessary matters so that the elders could focus on teaching and shepherding.

For example, ministerial servants may have helped to make copies of the Scriptures or may have purchased materials needed for copying.

The Q & A section .....yikes. These people have done some crazy research. Nothing looks recent- wonder where they are now.

https://anointedjw.borg/ (- b from borg just in case)

Screenshots in comments

About Us

We have been associated with the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society the majority of our lives, serving as Elders and Pioneers. We are not members of the Governing Body, the Writing Department, the Bethel family or the Worldwide Order of Jehovah’s Witnesses. In the beginning, there were only the two of us. We later took on four partners who also served as Elders and Pioneers. We, in association with other sons of the Kingdom around the world, are responding to the scriptural call to provide spiritual assistance to one another to the extent we are able

This reads like something required in China.

Feels like this is necessary for some sort of lawsuit looming.

Until that one time we didn't obey the law and we got put in prison for the rest of our lives in Russia?

Or the fact that we contribute nothing but irritation to the local communities?

And WHAT does this mean??

.... and cooperate with the government’s efforts to provide for the public welfare.

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Contributions to the community

 Jehovah’s Witnesses are useful members of society and pose no threat to the security of the countries where they live. We respect governmental authority, in harmony with these Bible commands:

 “Be in subjection to the superior authorities.”—.

 “Pay back, therefore, Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God.”—.

 Thus, we obey the law, pay our taxes, and cooperate with the government’s efforts to provide for the public welfare.

https://www.jw.borg/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/why-dont-jw-go-to-war/ (- b from borg)

This sub has been a god send for me the last two years.

I've learned so much, made some great friends and the support is something I couldn't do without.

However, the recent uptick in trolling, sympathizers, whatever the description is - is becoming super frustrating.

The arguing about stupid things, asking for 'proof' of this and that like we just accept anything as fact with zero documentation and and AND ...

It's starting to be exhausting. My f*ck-off buttons are being pushed 🤬 and I don't like the feeling.

Any one else experiencing this?

Seems they're targeting a certain demographic.

Is Rahul the new Andre?

Maybe Africa has burnt out and now they're on to the next receptive group.

This is getting so predictable.

https://www.jw.borg/en/library/magazines/awake-no1-2021-mar-apr/wisdom-for-family-happiness/

Marriage and children are precious gifts from our Creator. He wants us to have a happy family life. So by means of an ancient sacred book, he has given us guidance that can make our family life better and happier. Consider the following wise counsel.

EDIT: I know this sub reaches to the countries they claim they assisted financially - anyone know anyone who actually recvd help?

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As the daughter of someone ( an Elder, no less) who was able to claim Survivor Fund money ( and a substantial amount) for my grandmother who had been dead 10 years AND kept it for himself - this absolutely smacks of another way they racked in some cash.

Charitible tax filings link below and summary of their 'humanitarian efforts' from the Swiss Bank.

They gladly brag about helping members when there's millions of free dollars to accept - but they don't lift a damn finger for anyone day to day.

I can guarantee little to NO money actually made it to these victims, if they were even still alive.

The independent review? Absolutely reads as a JW propaganda article that they provided to them.

The tax filings only require a list of eligible members - nothing else to confirm it happened.

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/141829372

https://www.swissbankclaims.com/Documents/DOC\_74.6\_hsp\_4.pdf

THIS:

The JWHESF

declined the additional task of identifying and assisting survivors who

may have been Jehovah’s Witnesses during the Nazi occupation but

were no longer members of this community.

THIS: 'VOLUNTEER NETWORK'

Project overhead costs were kept low and assistance streamlined

by using local volunteers.

THIS:

Project implementation relied on the benefi ciaries’ timely submission

of receipts for the purchase of assistance.

They all deserve this so much.

And they all had enough respect to show up!

Edit:

Thanks, people of Reddit, for turning this into a political post. PRETEND you're reading the ' PRESIDENT' or the 'WHITE HOUSE' in place of his actual name. Sorry for the obvious trigger 🤣

Do you all suck the life and fun out of absolutely EVERYTHING?

The team and coach deserve it. Let it be about that for once.

EDIT: So I posted this mainly due to the persecution-centric crazy subject matter BUT the more I reflected on this ( thanks to what being a JW taught me to do 🤣) the MORE I'm amazed at the back-against-the-wall instruction.

Like WHAT direction did they get from Jehovah ( according to their illustration) that said to do this???? Omg it's killing me ..the entire subject matter 🤣 I need more detail. More context about WHY they saw fit to add to the WT!!??

Original body of my post:

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Monday, May 11 Reject irreverent false stories.​—1 Tim. 4:7.

( Irreverent is an adjective describing a lack of due respect, veneration, or seriousness toward people, traditions, or beliefs that are generally taken seriously or held as sacred. It often implies a playful, mocking, or satirical attitude (e.g., "an irreverent comedian"), rather than purely malicious disrespect.)

ACTUAL full scripture:

7But reject irreverent false stories, like those told by old women. On the other hand, train yourself with godly devotion as your aim.

16 Satan did not stop lying in the first century. Today, he is still “misleading the entire inhabited earth.” (Rev 12:9) If you hear negative stories regarding the organization or the brothers who are taking the lead, remember how God’s enemies treated Jesus and the first-century disciples. Today, Jehovah’s people are being persecuted and maligned exactly as the Bible foretold. (Matt 5:11 12) False stories will not mislead us if we recognize their source and take immediate action.

Sooo....why with their back to the wall? Wtf.

Maybe if they weren't a dangerous cult, the minions wouldn't have to be worried about physical violence from the evil worldy apostates.

*** par 11: PICTURE DESCRIPTION: After the elders discuss arrangements for public witnessing, a group overseer passes on the direction to the publishers to stand with their back next to the wall.

** paragraph 11: 'What is one way in which elders can show that they appreciate God’s organization? When receiving direction, elders need to read it carefully and then apply it to the best of their ability. For instance, they receive guidance not only on how to present meeting parts and how to offer prayers for the congregation but also on how to care for Christ’s sheep. Elders who follow organizational direction help those under their care to feel secure and loved.'

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https://www.jw.borg/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=E&prefer=lang&docid=2024366 (- b fm borg)

This 🤬🤬🤬 BECAUSE YOU ARE 'INTOLERANT, JUDGEMENTAL and UNLOVING' !!!!!

*** 'God’s opposers try to put positive aspects of his organization in a negative light. For instance, we have learned from the Scriptures that Jehovah expects his worshippers to be clean physically, morally, and spiritually.

He requires that any who unrepentantly pursue a course of uncleanness be removed from the congregation. (1 Cor. 5:11-13; 6:9, 10)

We adhere to that Scriptural command. But our opposers try to use that against us by accusing us of being intolerant, judgmental, and unloving.'

Found the original account, as well- screenshot in comments.

The Future Kings spent exactly $30.47 on each JW they helped. And forget all those other starving worldy people.

AND used a network of local "publishers" and volunteers who used their own vehicles to transport goods quickly within their communities - THATS how they got it done two weeks before the big guns.

NOTE: Numerous international and local NGOs provided relief at the same time as Jehovah's Witnesses in 2020. While the JWs primarily focused on their own members, major aid agencies conducted a massive, nationwide response to the "double crisis" of a severe drought and the COVID-19 pandemic.

Scale Comparison: While the JWs reported spending approximately $691,561 to feed 22,700 people, the combined international NGO and UN effort in 2020 managed over $200 million in humanitarian funding for Zimbabwe

Ironic how they declined an NGOs assistance 🤣

https://www.jw.borg/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=E&prefer=lang&docid=2025240 (-b from borg)

' Reliance on any Medical Information (why do they capitalize that phrase?) is solely at your own risk.'

'...for informational purposes only and does not constitute medical advice.'

REALLY????

So dying due to following THEIR medical RULES was the dead person's fault?

Why can't THIS be a class action lawsuit..??

Screenshots below and fyi, you don't have to accept the T & C - you can continue to use the app.

This has always bothered me, even before I was out.

Why would Jehovah ask us to do nonsensical things?

Some research today ...and something I've vocalized so many times the past two years. ..JWs are no more informed and just as brainwashed as Jim Jones and his Koolaid drinkers. See below and screenshot:

By pre-emptively labeling instructions as illogical, it protects the leadership (the Governing Body) from being questioned if a policy fails or changes abruptly. Obedience is framed as a test of faith rather than a matter of common sense.

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Also, there are only four other cults that have ( had, to be more precise) the same MO...see screenshot.

THIS is precisely why I am frightened for anyone in- the GB will tell them to do xyz to live....and they will.

They've already been doing it with the blood transfusion doctrine.

**edit: I LOVE the down votes...whyyyy 🤣🤣

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I was researching similar groups that demand the level of inquiry into a members personal sex life as JWs.. curious since several posts recently made me wonder if this is normal church behavior.

I was raised a JW, so it was just a given in that world.

But seeing the equivalent groups that do? JWs are on par with FDLS, etc. Good company.

If this isn't a red flag?? Interesting how none of this is addressed when love bombing someone into the ' Truth'.

Informative info in screenshot in comments.

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​Jehovah’s Witnesses: Utilize "Judicial Committees" and the threat of shunning to enforce strict moral codes and monitor private behavior.

​The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS): Conduct regular "worthiness interviews" to monitor adherence to the "Law of Chastity."

​Fundamentalist Latter-Day Saints (FLDS): A breakaway sect where leadership often exerts total control over marital arrangements and intimacy.

​Exclusive Brethren: Practice extreme "separation from the world" and monitor members for any "worldly" behaviors.

​Scientology: Use "auditing" sessions and "Ethics Officers" to have members confess private secrets and sexual history.

​Independent Fundamental Baptists (IFB): Often emphasize "Purity Culture" through public confession and intense peer accountability.

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Her husband probably hated his life.

I'm guessing we've not gotten any NuLite on whether we are allowed to play Go Fish or not?

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April 23, 1925

Today this amusement is so enchanting that mothers forget their home duties, and fathers their debts,

to sp'end time, energy, and money at the fashionable card-party.

And the result?

Is it a greater intelligence, a thirst for true

knowledge and increased sense of duty, a great-

er desire for right, more love for your fellow

man?

Is there one good point in favor of this

amusement?

With these facts-and many others-before

us, it seems that the vari-colored card is akin

to occultism and should be shunned even as the

ouija board and the seance.

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Page 403 in the following:

https://www.watchtowerwayback.org/jw-wb/English/Magazines/Awake/1925%20Golden.Age%20Num139-Num164.pdf

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This is truly hurts my heart.

So many broken dreams....for a medical procedure that didn't exist in the Bible and nonsensical reasoning.

Came across this when looking for another article.

What a bunch of hateful old men in their high castle.

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** 2012 article:

A married couple’s eggs and sperm are fertilized outside the womb by IVF. The resulting embryos are then implanted in the womb of a surrogate, a woman who carries the baby and delivers it for them.

Those reproductive procedures are unacceptable to God’s servants out of respect for his direction: “You must not give your emission as semen to the wife of your associate to become unclean by it.” (Lev. 18:20, 29; Prov. 6:29) When fertilization involving eggs or sperm (or both) from someone not within the marital union occurs, this amounts to what the Bible terms por·neiʹa, sexual immorality. Those procedures are a gross misuse of the sexual organs.—

** References 1993 article:

Does surrogate motherhood honor marriage and keep the marriage bed undefiled? Simply put, no.

Traditional surrogacy requires the insemination of the woman by donor sperm.

The Bible’s view may be found at Leviticus 18:20, which says: “You must not give your emission as semen to the wife of your associate to become unclean by it.” There is no Biblical basis for making a distinction between insemination by intercourse and insemination artificially by donor implantation.

Therefore, in either case, fornication or adultery is committed when insemination is accomplished by a male other than the woman’s legal husband.

What about gestational surrogacy?

This too defiles the marriage bed. True, the fertilized egg would be a union of the husband and his wife, but it is thereafter placed in the womb of another woman and, in fact, makes her pregnant. This pregnancy is not the result of sexual relations between the surrogate woman and her own husband.

Thus, her reproductive organs are now being used by someone other than her own mate. This is inconsistent with the Bible’s moral principles that a woman bear a child for her own husband. (Compare Deuteronomy 23:2.) It would not be proper for a man other than the surrogate’s own husband to make use of her reproductive organs. It is an improper use of the marriage bed. Thus, surrogate motherhood is not for Christians.

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1993:

https://wol.jw.borg/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101993168#h=1:0-21:0

2012:

https://wol.jw.borg/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2012928#h=27

(-b fm borg)

Also known as how to suck every ounce of joy out of your life. Screw you, fun.

You must make a decision that ' pleases ' Jehovah but you can only base that decision on information that we say you can.

Jehovah wrote down that you must overanalyze anything fun in the Research Guide and ultimately not go.

Make sure you pick THAT decision, minions.

BUT, we don't make rules, right? Remember that when you're alone, not having fun. Invite the experienced fun-killer over, maybe.

HOW did I not notice this level of control when I was in?????????

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** when deciding whether to attend the social gathering mentioned earlier, you might consider what the Bible says about wild parties, bad associations, and the need to put Kingdom interests ahead of your personal preferences.

8. Still, at times you may need help to find the information you are looking for.

You might get input from an experienced brother or sister.

However, you will also benefit from doing your own research.

There is a wealth of information in our study tools, such as the Research Guide for Jehovah’s Witnesses and Scriptures for Christian Living.

Remember the goal: to make a decision that will please Jehovah.

Consider Jehovah’s thinking (See paragraph 8) #

# PICTURE DESCRIPTION: One of the brothers does research before deciding whether to go to the party

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https://www.jw.borg/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=E&prefer=lang&docid=2025242 (-b fm borg)

The 'Notes' are gross. No humor, one well rehearsed interview and even what to say in the prayer.

What a cold way to standardize a loved ones death - cookie cutter bs with zero warmth.

Screenshots below, including most recent elders book info.

'Notes: Opening with prayer is optional. The purpose of the talk is to uphold Jehovah as a God of love and

mercy and at the same time bring comfort to the bereaved. Give a fine witness concerning the truth, but also

make your talk warm and personal. Not all points and scriptures need to be used. Adapt the material to match

the circumstances of the deceased and the needs of grieving ones. While not overpraising the deceased, you

may use events from his life throughout the talk to show how those in attendance can benefit from his

example. Use good balance in this regard. You may choose to arrange a well-rehearsed interview with a brother

in good standing who knew the deceased well. Any use of humor should be moderate. The dignity of the

occasion should be preserved.

The talk need not exceed 30 minutes.

Do not invite the audience to make

expressions about the deceased, as this could introduce inappropriate or unscriptural elements into the

program.

Use of such songs as Nos. 19, 111, or 134 is optional to open or close the program or both. A brief

prayer at the close is fitting.

When arrangements are made to go to the grave, it is good to consider quite

briefly our Kingdom hope, reading one or two scriptures, such as Job 14:14, 15 and 1 Corinthians 15:54b-57.

This service may also be closed with prayer, thanking Jehovah for the resurrection hope.]