u/Useful_Floor_5452

Any advice?

Hello, I’m a 27 y/o male who recently got off a long stint with 7oh and am dealing with PAWS. During my use I remained very active, lifting, climbing, and hiking weekly. I started my addiction arc in my teens unfortunately so there’s probably some considerable damage there. I’ve been a lifelong anhedonia/ anxiety sufferer and would self medicate to remain “successful” on paper (I was also diagnosed ADHD two years ago). I’m trying to turn a corner however. I’ve always taken supplements but I’ve ramped that up recently and thought I’d ask the masses their opinions on my stack (don’t tear me up too badly I’m totally new here lol)
Ginseng-most days
Magnesium Calm brand- daily
L-tyrosine- weekdays 600mg
Rhodiola- weekdays 200mg
NAC- Daily 600mg
Omega 3 Nordic Brand-Daily
Vit. D- Daily
Bromantane-50 mg daily

I exercise daily (lift weights/do cardio) and maintain a decent sleep schedule, I’m also on bupropion.. I know I’m mixing a fair amount of stimulants and that’s likely not sustainable but I’m trying to push through the fog right now.. any advice?

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u/Useful_Floor_5452 — 2 days ago

I’ll leave this here

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i4gvIeA3RcI&pp=0gcJCQQLAYcqIYzv&ra=m

I’ve struggled with addiction since I was 15, I’m now a 27 y/o male and this last 8 months with 7 was seriously eye opening for me. I had sworn I’d never put myself through chemical dependency like that again. I’m 34 days off of Kratom/ 7 (300+mgpd for 8 months). I was sprinkling stimulants in there towards the end to try and cut through the 7 fog. I was diagnosed with adhd two years ago and tried a short stint on ADHD meds before realizing I didn’t have the willpower to use them responsibly, previously I had used kratom leaf/ extracts for years to self medicate ADHD after getting off of heavier opiates/ ❄️ in my teenage/ early adult years. I feel I haven’t truly been at baseline for a little over a decade. I’ve always managed to keep my addiction “manageable” on paper, successful career, frequently excercised, two dogs, a girlfriend, my own pad, etc.. mentally and spiritually however I’ve struggled tremendously. Shame, fatigue, burnout, anxiety, dysthymia, and some real fucking dark lows. I’m almost thirty now and I want to figure this shit out so bad.

u/Useful_Floor_5452 — 3 days ago

Howdy y’all, I’m just over three weeks and I thought I’d share my experience in case it can help benefit anyone currently trying to quit or planning on quitting soon. Although I’ve struggled with substance use since my early teenage years I’ve only ever came off long term opiates once before in the form of poppy tea (1 year of daily use). PST contains some 70+ alkaloids that you grow dependent on including morph. and codien. The W/D’s were awful and lasted some 48 hours, surprisingly enough however the PAWS didn’t seem to be nearly as bad. I remember feeling significantly better at hour 50 like I had just come out of a really bad fever (I literally shit the bed 10 hours earlier). Quitting 7 was something else. I used 300-400ish mg a day for the last two or three months of my use and used a little over 8 months in total. I had quit kratom and kratom concentrates several times in the last several years CT ( I started daily kratom use after getting off PST), the w/d’s were always very manageable and typically meant one slightly restless night and a week of feeling tired (this was off of 4 daily OPMS shots for probably 5 months of use).
At 16 hours off of 7 I thought I might wriggle out of my skin, I had stocked up on liposomal C, a few mg of alprazolam, and even ordered some PST to help “ease” the process. I felt pretty confident I had it in the bag. I was wrong as hell. Even with all the comfort “aids” I wanted to bash my head through the wall. At around hour 20 (the following morning) I made a QUCIKMD appt. And got subs, at this point I was still very much wanting to crawl out of my skin, crying on the floor, etc.. 1/4 of a film alleviated most of the bad physical symptoms and allowed me to sleep for an hour or two. I continued using 1/4 of a film a day for twos days after this and was tired, depressed, sweaty but not too uncomfortable. I continued weaning off subs for 5 days, took two days off, was met with horrible RLS, and jumped back on them on day 8 (.5 mg twice a day). I used subs for 16 days total which in retrospect was a tad risky ( I didn’t have cravings I just needed to by slightly functional). The last few days of subs I used around .5- .25 a day. After getting off of subs I had two kind of restless nights but still managed to get some sleep. As of now the RLS is gone, most of the anxiety is gone, I’m sleeping pretty well, I’m flooded with emotions both good and bad and I love it. I heavily recommend exercise as soon as you can, that’s been the biggest help. Supplements have also played a role (ashwaganda, magnesium, GABA, L-theanine, ginseng, Vitamin D) especially when it came to sleep. I started Wellbutrin a week ago and that may have helped ease my transition as well. I’m still low energy, but I can rally and I’m happy for the first time in some time. If I can do this so can you. I also would like to thank everyone here who offered support, advice, and comic relief. This sub has been a massive resource for me during this time. Thanks guys ❤️

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u/Useful_Floor_5452 — 16 days ago

Hello all, quit 7 15 days ago using quick MD. First week I used a 1/4 film (4mg bupe) twice for three days, then went down to 1/8th a film twice a day. I took two days off and the paws were hitting like a MF so I’ve now been taking a little under 1/8th a film once a day which seems to do the trick. I know once I stop the PAWS will come back, is it better to taper further or just bite the bullet? Lmk what yall think, thanks. 🙏

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u/Useful_Floor_5452 — 22 days ago