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okay so i've just finished the whole thing and it was insane. im going to try and organize my thoughts so they're easy to respond to.

starting with each person:

(ladies first)

1. gia- i really liked her, no complaints. she felt mature, funny, and a really solid person. I wasn't obsessed with her but i loved her and agreed with all of her takes on other people/couples. i did think that her and tim's age gap was a bit off putting but its fine.
2. bella- omg i loved her and GOD i wish she stayed on the show longer because she is just so funny and such a light to this show. i would kill to have seen her reaction to the whole david-val-lo situation. i also feel awfulll that she connected with nobody. that was completely unfair and i have more on this later. and i also feel bad she spent her entire time downstairs cleaning up after people. i love her so much, she was def a fave and when she put on that final dress i almost cried. she deserves someone amazing and who truly matched her energy. (and that person was def not on that boat)
3. leela- the prettiest in my opinion and she really grew on me. i was not a fan of how messy she was. it wasn't the end of the world but it was quite annoying. but as the show went on you got to see how kind and caring and funny she was and i loved that. im also obsessed with how she harassed david any chance she got. i love how she was his #1 hater, because same girl. and everything she said to val was very mature and i loved how she went about it. her and koray were fine, kinda plain.
4. val- oh boy. i have such mixed feelings about her. i know the david situation was not her fault at all but there's just something icky about her that i couldn't place until she said she would agree with whatever david said at the elimination dinner. like girl wtf stand up for yourself please. i feel like that was so out of character for her, and especially when she agreed with voting gia out even though gia was like her main supporter through everything!!!! my respect for her pretty much dropped to 0 after that. i really really don't know what she saw in david. i think both of them were very lustful to be honest. she's very mature and smart but sometimes she was just so dumb. like unbelievably dumb. in both of his most recent relationships, he's cheated. and i would NEVER have stayed with him (let alone say i love you???!!) or thought that i could change him.
5. enna- i really liked her as the show went on. i was surprised her and andrew had such a good connection after what he said about her but it seemed real and im happy for her. i know i keep saying the word mature but she was probably the most mature one there. she never let herself get out of control and seemed very grounded. i think she was too good for this kind of show.
6. lexi- more mixed feelings. i didn't like how forgiving she was to david. that felt like strategy and really icked me. also how quick she folded for james even though she said she wasn't into him because of the "horny" comment never made me feel like their relationship was real or secure. she was mostly nice and caring, but i guess kinda boring since she was in the same couple since kinda day 1.
7. sofia- this is gonna be a hot take but i actually liked her and can't believe people were calling her the devil. (the one thing i didn't like about enna was hoe she treated sofia). i was SO grossed out by andrew too and would've done the same thing she did. not a lot of people were playing with strategy, but she was. and i really respect it. and it's crazy how everyone took andrew's side because NOBODY liked andrew anyway!! that was super confusing to me. sofia wanted to get to the top, and she knew how.
8. sade- we didn't get to see much of her. pretty much all we knew about sade is that she's "high maintenance." which is like okay. i don't really care. and then they tried to give her beef with bella that lasted 2 seconds, which she was acting really annoying in. i have mixed feelings about how she played the game because i know i just said i respect strategy, but at least sofia wanted love and to be on the topside. sade genuinely just didn't want to clean. but other than that she's fine, i really like how secure she is in herself. her and keif were lowkey cute and i wish we got to see more but idk if she deserved him tbh.
9. lo- wow this girl is actually insufferable. she has insane jealousy issues, and, honestly, is a bitch. she was so mean to everyone who even looked at david. and like REALLY mean. never would i ever defend david, but it was so clear that she was so much more into him than he was to her. he was probably so freaked out that she wanted kids with him and all that stuff because he lowk did not gaf. but yeah anyway i did not like her and wish we could've seen her in a different light.
10. delaney- i agreed with everything she said when she ended things with keif. he wasn't gonna accept her the way she is, and i'm glad she saw that. she didn't really ever put herself out there though which was kinda disappointing, but whatever. not much to say about her.

11-.christine- noooooo girl. i hated how she attached herself to val. you would think they were childhood best friends the way they acted. and her and jake were obviously not real, just lust. which i respect i guess. i don't really care about her.

12. tim- cool i guess. i really appreciated how he was always on gia's side and they seemed very in sync. also loved how he didn't like david and never told gia she was overreacting. i can tell he has a good sense of humor but it really rubbed me the wrong way when he kept repeating how he was a "retired fuckboy".

13. koray- i genuinely know nothing about this man. i guess i liked how into leela was and that he was patient. and that he hated david.

14. reece- idk why but i kinda vibe with him. although he said something that really icked me in the last episode or 2 but i can't remember what it was. probably something about liking david. i get the vibe that hes funny.

15. andrew- to me andrew represents every bad trait men have in one. im glad enna liked him but honestly i could not STAND HIMMMMMM!!! when he called his mom about his fucking side burns i almost threw my computer at the wall. and what he said to enna ("don't pick me, i want sofia") was disgusting and idk how she forgave him. and honestly sofia was right when she said that he's the most egotistical man she's ever met. the way he talked about how he was everyone's first choice back in ny was actually just not believable. like baby u are NOT all that. can't you tell by how no one on this boat wants you? get a frekig grip and take a freakng hint. and he was so oblvious to sofia not liking him!! that really killed me. i don't blame sofia a bit. i really really hated andrew. he's my second least favorite.

16. keif- i liked him but he just felt out of place on the show. like a lot. however i did NOT like how traditional he was. you could tell he was trying to tell delaney on the boat that he would want her to be a stay-at-home mom for the rest of her life. ick. he would not have let her be the person she is, so im glad they ended things because i know they would have gotten in so many fights about her wearing bikinis and going out.

17. james- i can't believe how into him lexi was. especially after the horny comment. the whole show i honestly could never see him as more than a little frat boy. i will say i did like how loyal he was to lexi. he only wanted her and never so much as batted an eye at another girl.

18. prasad- i can't believe they let him onto this show. to me, he is genuinely so ugly. his hair was so greasy and his personality was so ick ick ick. watching him and delaney interact made me feel like i was watching someone get assaulted. i just want to come and save her or at least call someone to save her. most chud shipwrecker ever.

19. beau- insanely beautiful. i mean seriously. i felt so bad when he got sent overboard but i think gia made the right decision. i still love him though. great guy. UNTIL he voted for david and val as strongest couple.

20. jake- idk. young. big nose. annoying. immature.

21. bradley- i enjoyed his humor a lot, and really freaking wish he and bella had a connection. i would've loved to see them together.

22. david- here we fucking go. i can't believe it. it's not that i can't believe that he personally could do something like that, because honestly i never liked him. he was annoying and i could obviously tell that he wasn't really into lo. but anyways it's so insane to give up your full relationship in just a few hours because you met a girl who's your BODY TYPE?? LIKE?? and then to make them both stand there for 45 minutes (which i thought was edited but it's genuinely true) is even more insane. and to top it ALL off, apparently he cheated on val right after the show ended. im not even gonna keep going because everyone knows how awful he is.

final other thought:

how poc were treated- i thought that the lack of diversity was very weird. and interestingly enough, there were the same number of woc as moc. 3 women, 3 men. almost like they could just perfectly match up with eachother. out of all 22 cast members, only 6 were poc. it felt off. and all of them were black, which was interesting too. there were no asians or latino/as. and all of the woc never really found love, exept for lo. but no one showed any interest in her anyways besides david, and we all know how he really felt about her. and i know it probably had to do with their personalities, but it's just such a coincidence that i feel like i had to talk about it. no one wanted to pursue a relationship with any of the black girls. weirddd.

ok i think that's it! pleasee comment anything else you want to share, wether it's in response to all this or something completely different.

there's a lot to discuss about the finale, but i have to say i was UGLY crying for most of the episode, and i knew that rue died way before i even watched it. it was just so surprising that she died like 20 minutes in, and when ali added her to his book that's when i really lost it. say what you want about the episode, but god it really hit me hard. one of the better episodes in season 3 if not the best. the empty gun plot twist was amazing too.

and last thing- rue just looked so beautiful in that last shot that i started crying all over again.

anyone else cry or just me?

if i could make a few changes/adjustments/suggestions, these would be them. pls lmk if u guys agree or not or have more takes!

(most of these are based on the game vs the sparks that i saw live on friday, may 29th)

1. new coach. i'm sorry, but sydney johnson really isn't cutting it for me. the refs can be so blind and yet he won't challenge plays despite the entire stadium and even his own players telling him to. i guess i understand wanting to make sure you don't give up your 2 challenges too quickly, but there's many games where 0 challenges are called and it's ridiculous. also, he doesn't put in the players he should, and keeps players who were off in for way too long (georgia)
2. keep kiki and sonia in together as much as possible. they're such a powerhouse together. #kitron
3. lauren betts needs to be down low. i get they're trying to get her to be the big guy boxing out, but she's not pick and rolling and that's what she needs to do if she's going to be that far up in the paint.
4. they're trying to make austin be betts, and it's not working. austin and betts should switch!! drill austin on shooting so she can be an amazing mid range shooter and go down low if she has to (bc right now she's not even attempting shots if they're not off the backboard) and have betts (who is just so much taller and bigger anyway) be down low and easily putting those shots in. does that make sense?
5. play cotie mcmahon!!! she is SUCH a star, and excactly what the mystics need. but they won't play her! Cotie's energy, aggressiveness, and accuracy is perfect for them. johnsons refusal to play her as much as deserved is annoying.
6. back to coach sydney johnson. please, if a player is clearly having an off game (georgia), take her out and put someone else in.

extra- i love dugalic & florez getino! great additions to the team. could get rid of prosper however. had a good game against the sparks, but i'm not sure about her. i think another vet instead could be a great addition, some knowledge of the game and point of stability could be great for them.

lmk if u guys agree or not!

i watched obsession for the first time today, and thought it was good! i just had a lot of questions afterwards. idk if i just missed the answers to these, or if they were plot holes. pls lmk if u have answers, insights, theories, or similar questions.

(bolded questions are the most pressing/important)

1. how/why could we hear kikki screaming on the other end of the phone when bear calls the wish hotline?

2. why was every other friend (specifically at ian's party) so calm about how crazy nikki was acting?? she was actively hitting herself in the face and bleeding, but people just seemed slightly annoyed.

3. why did the woman at the ER refuse bear and nikki service? they never explained why, and i didn't get the subtext. was it because they thought she was just drunk? but she had blood all over her face and body. also, it would've made sense if nikki would've gone crazy over bear trying to take her to the ER, but she didn't seem to care.

4. why was it such a big deal that nikki was putting in her 2 weeks? couldn't bear have talked to her otherwise since they were all a friend group

5. why did ian choose not to tell bear that him and nikki were hooking up when bear wanted to ask nikki out if he knew that bear would've been destined to fail & embarrass himself?

6. what took bear so long to try and reverse the curse by asking someone else to make a wish? why was sarah getting killed his breaking point? he didn't try very hard at all to get nikki to reverse the wish for him at all when he got home

7. why did nikki pee herself? and what was that other gross stuff on her? i'm confused on that detail. i think it's supposed to show how she no longer has any control over herself and her autonomy, but i'm not sure

8. i know that cat is symbolic, but for what?

9. why were there so many mixed reviews on the wish stick if every time a character used it, it worked?

10. was nikki walking backwards in bear's imagination or irl? because that was actual magic, and seemed stronger than everything else going on. why did it only happen once if she could do it the whole time?

11. when the idea that nikki could be on molly came up, it seemed like there was some unspoken thing about her relapsing they seemed so concerned, but it never came up again.

12. why did nikki give bear the tiger crystal?

13. the emphasis on nikki's passion for writing was very confusing because it dissolved almost immediately. i thought it would've been cool if writing was the way for real nikki to communicate, since that's what she loved. but that detail disappeared almost immediately.

14. sarah's tattoo plot was very confusing. the delivery was especially confusing; i couldn't tell what was going on. i had to ask my friend and even she didn't know what was going on. why was she talking to the store manager about it? she seemed so upset by the letter, not hopeful at all/

15. time seemed like it was going to be such a big plot point with the ticking cat clock,and ian repeating "all you have is time". was it? or did i miss that?

16. why did nikki choose to lie about her dad having cancer? everyone knew they weren't close. furthermore, how did ian find out all that information? it seems unlikely nikki would tell him the hospital he was at, knowing that it wasn't true and ian could find that out.

17. why was sarah's body posted up like that at the end? it seemed unnecessarily graphic for not being addressed at all.

18. why does nikki say "i just lost my cat" when bear drops her off? is she just confused?

19. the number seemed to be everywhere. it was often the time and nikkis house number (220). it might've been bear's adress too but i forgot. any reason or significance to that?

20. i think it's the first time that nikki and bear are in bed together. the clock says 12:08. and then a few shots later, but the same scene, it's a completely different time. i don't remeber what, but i'm pretty sure it was 6 or 16 :55. was that a fluke or a tiny easter egg people missed?

-not a question, but when real nikki begs bear to kill her while possessed nikki is sleeping was the most interesting part of the whole movie! i thought it was so cool and should've been a bigger plot point in the movie

sorry if this is really annoying im just really confused lol

if i could make a few changes/adjustments/suggestions, these would be them. pls lmk if u guys agree or not or have more takes!

(most of these are based on the game vs the sparks that i saw live on friday, may 29th)

1. new coach. i'm sorry, but sydney johnson really isn't cutting it for me. the refs can be so blind and yet he won't challenge plays despite the entire stadium and even his own players telling him to. i guess i understand wanting to make sure you don't give up your 2 challenges too quickly, but there's many games where 0 challenges are called and it's ridiculous. also, he doesn't put in the players he should, and keeps players who were off in for way too long (georgia)

2. keep kiki and sonia in together as much as possible. they're such a powerhouse together. #kitron

3. lauren betts needs to be down low. i get they're trying to get her to be the big guy boxing out, but she's not pick and rolling and that's what she needs to do if she's going to be that far up in the paint.

4. they're trying to make austin be betts, and it's not working. austin and betts should switch!! drill austin on shooting so she can be an amazing mid range shooter and go down low if she has to (bc right now she's not even attempting shots if they're not off the backboard) and have betts (who is just so much taller and bigger anyway) be down low and easily putting those shots in. does that make sense?

5. play cotie mcmahon!!! she is SUCH a star, and excactly what the mystics need. but they won't play her! Cotie's energy, aggressiveness, and accuracy is perfect for them. johnsons refusal to play her as much as deserved is annoying.

6. back to coach sydney johnson. please, if a player is clearly having an off game (georgia), take her out and put someone else in.

extra- i love dugalic & florez getino! great additions to the team. could get rid of prosper however. had a good game against the sparks, but i'm not sure about her. i think another vet instead could be a great addition, some knowledge of the game and point of stability could be great for them.

lmk if u guys agree or not!

this is a genuine question, i'm not even trying to hate. i just have so many friends who are ride or die drake fans. they basically see him as god even though he is clearly not a good person. i guess im just confused. he is a proven pedoph!le, and has allegations of using an illegal online casino to obscure money laundering and artificially inflate streams of his music. personally, i would've stopped being a drake fan as soon as i saw that "i've been waiting" comment under bille eilish's 18th birthday post. so how do you validate listening to him? there's a certain point where you have to separate the art from the artist if the artist is pedoph!le.