u/Vegasaces

Which table are you walking away from first: H17 with deep penetration, or S17 with a brutal cut?

Let's look at the real-world trade-offs on modern casino floors right now.

On one hand, you have the standard H17 game grabbing that extra 0.2 percent edge because the dealer is twice as likely to improve a soft 17 to a strong hand (0.8 percent increase) than they are to bust it (0.4 percent increase).

On the other hand, you find an elusive S17 table, but the surveillance or floor has mandated a brutal cut card placement, absolutely killing the deck penetration.

Assuming both tables are 3:2 payouts with identical limits, where are you putting your money? Do you take the math hit of the H17 rule for better deck depth, or do you protect the baseline house edge on the S17 table and deal with the frequent shuffles?

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u/Vegasaces — 1 day ago

I’m genuinely curious how people here think about this.

In a casino, nobody knows what the next roulette spin or slot result will be.

But in prediction markets, information itself can become the advantage. Less than 1% of accounts win 77% of the bets. We've all seen stories in the news of people with insider information winning large sums of money via prediction markets. People closer to politics, sports, media, finance, etc. could theoretically have a much bigger edge than average users.

That feels very different from traditional gambling to me.

Is that part of the appeal? Or do people here still view it basically the same as sports betting/casino gambling?

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u/Vegasaces — 14 days ago

The part where they basically read a couple books and then started winning a ton of money really fast, that’s where I stopped buying it a bit. Card counting works, but it’s not that quick or easy. It’s a grind, small edge, takes a lot of discipline and bankroll. That story felt way too much like an overnight success story. It honestly came across more like numbers being stretched or a lifestyle being sold than what actual long-term advantage play looks like.

From the dealer side too, none of that really involves us. We’re not tracking counters or stepping in. If something seems off, we just call the floor and they deal with it. That’s it.

I did agree with the part about how it feels though. The stress, headaches, mental drain. That part is real. It’s not glamorous at all.

Also something that stood out to me, casinos don’t really care about individuals winning or losing in the short term. They care about the math over time. The only time they care is if you’re consistently beating the game.

And honestly, one thing I like about online platforms is at least they offer some guardrails. You can set limits, budgets, timeouts. You don’t get that sitting at a live table.

Curious if anyone here had the same reaction?

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u/Vegasaces — 16 days ago
▲ 10 r/AMA

I have spent over 20 years in the casino industry including teaching people how to deal.

It is a different perspective because you see what players do and what dealers are actually taught.

Happy to answer whatever questions you might have. 

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u/Vegasaces — 23 days ago