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Which table are you walking away from first: H17 with deep penetration, or S17 with a brutal cut?

Let's look at the real-world trade-offs on modern casino floors right now.

On one hand, you have the standard H17 game grabbing that extra 0.2 percent edge because the dealer is twice as likely to improve a soft 17 to a strong hand (0.8 percent increase) than they are to bust it (0.4 percent increase).

On the other hand, you find an elusive S17 table, but the surveillance or floor has mandated a brutal cut card placement, absolutely killing the deck penetration.

Assuming both tables are 3:2 payouts with identical limits, where are you putting your money? Do you take the math hit of the H17 rule for better deck depth, or do you protect the baseline house edge on the S17 table and deal with the frequent shuffles?

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u/Vegasaces — 1 day ago

Team trip

Planning a team trip for other AP we have about 150k bankroll between the three of us. Looking for more team members or sponsors. For casinos in the US DM if interested. You will be tested on your skills

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u/Original_Show — 1 day ago

Online Casino

Hi, I’m looking for an online casino where I can play roulette and blackjack from Germany. Something like Stake, etc. No German casino please! I used to play at Stelario and NV Casino. Which ones can you recommend?

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Odd One

I had another odd hand today. So I am playing a few hands then a new dealer comes to tap out the current dealer. In this particular casino when there is a dealer change the new dealer has to burn a card. Well this new dealer forgot to burn a card and dealt me a crappy hand and dealt himself a blackjack.

Now I only had $25 on the hand so I grumbled a little and put another $25 out for the next hand. He deals one card and I say, you do know you forgot to burn a card right? He realizes he didn’t burn a card and calls the floor over. The floor was immediately annoyed and said, I can’t just give you $25 back out of the tray. I said, no problem I wasn’t trying to be difficult and the floor replied that they couldn’t tell I wasn’t trying. Just being an absolute smartass.

Was I in the wrong for saying something? I immediately wished I didn’t considering just a $25 bet but had that been $500 what would have happened?

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u/usernamechrksout — 2 days ago

Can you get a back off from marketing seeing you're winning too much?

Let's say "hypothetically" someone is milking a game that has zero heat. You're playing rated about twice a week. Hundreds of hours you're still climbing up. At what point will someone in the ratings system be like: How is he still winning? And catch this person.

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u/Launch_and_Lunch — 2 days ago

I built a blackjack trainer focused on card counting and deviations — looking for Android testers

Hi !

Been working on a mobile blackjack trainer for a while. It's not a casino game — it's a coaching tool.

What it covers:
- Basic strategy drills with adaptive weak spot detection
- Card counting trainer (6-deck shoe, Hi-Lo, true count)
- Bet sizing drills (Kelly-based)
- Illustrious 18 + Fab 4 deviations
- Rank progression tied to actual accuracy, not volume

Built it because I wanted something that tells me if I'm actually ready for a casino session.

Android only for now. Looking for a few testers willing to try it and share honest feedback. DM me if interested.

Thanks !

u/wakaranai45 — 2 days ago

Why are the Top 10 Gambling Sites UK lists all the same 20-year-old brands? 🙄

I was looking up top 10 gamblin͏g sites uk for the worldcup and honestly every single list is just bet͏365, sky͏be͏t, willia͏m hill, over and over. yeah they're big names but their limits are trash, the apps lag like crazy, and the affordability checks are ridiculous, feels like applying for a loan just to bet ten quid on a horse. Does anyone actually use anything different? looking for sites with decent withdrawal speeds that don't make you feel like a criminal for wanting to gamble

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u/Informal-Milk4561 — 2 days ago

What defines one as an “Advantage player?”

I’m self teaching myself AP right now, and I was thinking. What do you guys think determine if someone is an advantage player?

Is it if they are net profiting? What if the hours they play is under N0? What if they’re not net profiting at the moment? Is there a minimum $ amount required?

Is it a matter of knowing XYZ concepts? What concepts? Basic strategy? Using true count to determine bet size? Knowing X amount of deviations?

My loose definition as of right now is they must have the following requirements:

  1. Have knowledge regarding basic strategy, and using the true count to determine bet sizes. That’s the bare bones of advantage play right? Given enough hours that’ll guarantee some sort of profit in the long run?

  2. Have a net lifetime profit at some point of time after playing the N0 of your most played game. Thus attempting to remove the effects of variance.

I think it’s a spectrum though. If you have #1, but only played 10 hours and still are at a profit. I can’t say lump you with the regular people who don’t know anything.

What do you guys think determines if someone is an advantage player?

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u/asqwt — 3 days ago

At this point just make a pinned thread for people to advertise their trainer apps

Completely clutters the sub

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u/JahnDahp — 4 days ago

BlackjackTrainer.fyi update: Bankroll Lab. See your risk of ruin and EV/hour, then play it out in a tracked session with an expected-vs-actual recap

Thanks everyone for using the trainer, we've hit over 150k hands of blackjack played and counting! Accuracy on basic strategy and deviations has been genuinely impressive. I just shipped Bankroll Lab to cover the third core skill: bankroll management.

It forecasts risk of ruin and EV/hour for your real spread, then lets you play it out in a tracked session and compare what actually happened to the math.

How it works

You enter your real game — rules, penetration, table min/max, bankroll, session length — and your bet spread (TC-indexed, or pick a Standard / Aggressive / Maximum preset). It gives you:

  • Risk of ruin vs your tolerance (1% / 5% / 14%)
  • EV per hour with ±1σ hourly swing
  • Spread edge weighted by how often each TC actually shows up
  • session outlook band (P10 / expected / P90) for the hours you plan to play
  • plain-English verdict — Playable, Above target, Bankroll-limited, or Negative EV — with the reason and a suggested fix

Under the hood it models the spread per true count, and weights everything by TC frequency under your specific rules. The TC frequency and edge tables come from ~6 billion simulated rounds across every common game configuration — 1D through 8D, S17/H17, DAS, late surrender, restricted doubles, and penetrations from 50% to 90%.

Then you can play it out

Once a forecast looks good, hand it off to a tracked session in the trainer. Place each bet yourself and it flags overbets and underbets in real time at the current true count, or let autobet size from the spread and just play the hands. At the end you get:

  • planned spread vs what you actually bet, round by round
  • forecast net vs realized net, with a luck delta and z-score
  • Discipline EV — how much edge you gave up to mis-sizing

So you can tell whether a rough session was variance, a soft spread, or an actual mistake in play.

Like the strategy charts, you can quickly share your bankroll and spread setup via a single link, useful if you want to get your spread and settings sanity checked.

This feature is free, like the rest of the trainer. Feedback welcome!

https://www.blackjacktrainer.fyi/charts?tab=bankroll

u/TheFissureMan — 4 days ago

No one touch betonline classic blackjack

This shit is rigged this the 50th time my last 20 hands I have below 25 win rate. These motheruckers rigged my account.

u/Last-Faithlessness89 — 3 days ago

AI deviations song

Yo! I made an AI song to help me memorize the deviations. You probably know which chart I used, and I did intentionally leave a couple off because of reasons. The AI named it so I know the title is ironic. There are also other versions I made on the site, but this is the one I'm going to use.

Enjoy

(It makes me smile so much, and I hope it gets lodged so deep in my brain I never make any more mistakes lol)

https://www.mureka.ai/song-detail/RpncP35oc8kj6qYtESoKUS?is_from_share=1&song_title=the-book-of-basic-strategy&singer=mikjitsap

u/MikJits — 3 days ago

I made RANKED BLACKJACK

I was thinking of a way to make getting reps in more interesting, and here it is. Not only can you play ranked, but you can play casual and solo, all of with are completely realistic odds with a 6-shoe (changeable). Obviously, ranked mode only works with players, so here you go!

OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS

https://numericgame.vercel.app/?ref=Chase

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u/ttvthatguys — 3 days ago
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Duel.com

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You can sign up via the below link and you will get an extra bonus from me after your gameplay If you already have an account, you can still make a new one, at duel its allowed.

https://duel.com/r/gergodrone

u/gergodrone — 3 days ago

I was a Blackjack Cheat in Las Vegas during the 1980's — AMA

https://preview.redd.it/7gt6j6pf0i1h1.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=7c713a3fc46323c4dbf75d9df8088ca081e84e7f

In the summer of 1983,I arrived in Las Vegas with $2,100, no job, and no connections. Less than a decade later, he had executed over 500 cheating plays at the blackjack table in Las Vegas casinos — including a $151,000 single-night heist using a hidden computer strapped to a teammate's back — and retired without a single arrest, conviction, or trace of evidence.

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u/Curious_Strike4250 — 5 days ago

Casino Verite mistakes?

Hi all, I just started using the CV software, I've noticed it dings some of my deviations plays that I believe to be correct as errors. 13 hitting against 2 at tc -1, taking insurance at 3+, both of these plays it said were incorrect. Am I using the software wrong?

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u/pronaccent — 4 days ago