u/VogueEverything

Answering THE question EVERY single newbie asks at some point

Hi there 👋

Since we get this question on every second post, I thought I’d make a post answering the ever present query “Is my bag calloutable?”

I’m going to hold your hand when I say this - Yes, and it’s because you’re asking that question.

Bear with me, this might not be the nicest post, but I promise it’ll help if you take it for what it is, which is tough love.

I work in high fashion. I’m on the business side (internal management consulting), but I come into contact with the merchandising, manufacturing and marketing teams often in our projects. I’m no Zeko, I also don’t have deep brand specific knowledge the way some users do, but I can usually tell if something is a rep or not better than the average untrained person based on quality of materials, stitching and other indicators you learn to notice in this line of work.

Even then? My hit rate is very much hit or miss.

But it doesn’t matter.

Why?

  1. No one is looking at your bag. I live in a country and city at the moment for work where people are OBSESSED with branded goods and luxury. Everyone from the barista to the billionaires are decked out in designer, real or fake.

No one cares. No one is looking. Everyone is busy living their own life.

Literally no one who’s employed and/or has hobbies is wasting their time staring at your bag counting stitches to catch you carrying a fake.

  1. When I’ve clocked reps, they’ve been truly terrible, obvious fakes far worse than anything you can get even from a low tier factory.

When a bag is in movement on someone’s body, it appears very differently than in a photo where you’re explicitly looking to assess quality.

The only times I’ve found bags instantly clockable were when they were blatantly terrible or impossible fantasy pieces
e.g Chanel classic flap with the GG logo instead of Chanel’s

And by terrible I mean terrible. The mess which you wouldn’t even find in lower tier factory albums.

My theory is that those bags are from other countries that haven’t quite caught up to Chinese rep manufacturing

So please, chill out. Your lower tier factory bag is still not clockable from standing and viewing distance.

  1. If someone clocks you using context cues, they’re not someone you should care about anyway.

I try very hard not to use context clues to judge anyone. You never know someone’s situation. Maybe a bag was a gift, maybe they saved up a long time for it.

Again, I live in a city where people genuinely would rather save for a Chanel and take the train than save for a car. So I try not to judge based on someone’s apparent economic situation, clothes, or other factors.

There WILL be others that do so, there will be people who judge your bag as fake if you don’t meet their standards for grooming or what they think someone who owns that bag SHOULD look like.

Is that correct? No.

But let me tell you this, they would judge you carrying an authentic bag as a fake too.

If you don’t pass a judgy person’s internal litmus test for what someone who owns a Chanel looks like, you could have paid 100k at Chanel in the last month for a head to toe outfit and they’d still think it was all fake.

So guess what? It doesn’t matter. Let that information free you. Don’t strive for the validation of someone whose opinion shouldn’t matter.

  1. And here’s the controversial one. You’re giving your bag away with the insecurity.

Like I said above, designer items are so common where I live that I tune 90% of them out entirely from my field of view.

You wanna know when it’s noticeable?

When the person wearing it is obviously insecure about it. When they’re hunched over, having the bag faced inward to hide the logo, have their hands positioned strategically to make the bag less noticeable, therefore inadvertently calling more attention to it (obviously doesn’t apply in places like Paris where you need to hide your bag for safety).

The more insecure you are about the bag, the more obvious it becomes in your behaviour, thereby calling attention to it. Even when you don’t think you’re being self conscious about it, it’s all about the mentality. It’ll show.

So stop asking “will people call me out” and “is my bag clockable”. When you assess your PSPs, you should have already decided if the factory photos are close enough for you. At that point, assess your PSPs for quality and match to the factory photos.

Once you unbox the bag, zip up those insecurities and throw them away. Seriously, never think about it again. Wear your bag with confidence and your head held high. And that way YOU make the bag uncalloutable.

  1. Ok. Maybe this one might be even more controversial than the last.

Grow some thicker skin.

These are FAKE bags. They will never be real bags.

Ask yourself why you care so much about passing them off as the real thing.

We all say we buy the bags for the design, not to status signal and not for the branding, but who are we kidding? That’s definitely a part of it, or you’d just buy an unbranded dupe, which can be found for literally any bag.

If you were truly just buying the bag for the design, why do you need people to think it’s real?

And if you’re buying the bag to status signal, it’s a futile effort because if you had that status, everyone would assume it was real anyway (see Becca Bloom and her Birkin fakes).

And if you need people to think it’s real cause you think it’s morally abhorrent to buy reps, why are you being a hypocrite lol

We buy the bags because it gives us joy to be able to wear a “luxury” item reserved for the rich and have that be accessible to us. Someone calling us out is scary because it affects that fantasy. But ultimately, it’s not a luxury item, it’s still just a fake from a workshop. And you shouldn’t let anyone calling you out take away your enjoyment of it.

Also, please be realistic. What exactly is gonna happen? Your dentist’s receptionist is gonna stand up and point and screech “a FAKE! She wears a FAKE! FROM CHINA!”, and then everyone in the waiting room will all laugh in unison at you?

Like, be so for real. Even if that happens, you get up, walk out, and find yourself a new dentist and leave them a review on their unprofessionalism.

If your friend makes you feel bad for it, you talk to your friend about how they’re hurting your feelings, and if they don’t stop, they’re not a friend, honey.

TLDR: sorry for the clickbait post introduction, the real answer is that no, your bag isn’t callout-able. Unless, you let your insecurity with it show or you run into judgy people. In the former, you learn to be confident, and the latter, it doesn’t even matter anyway.

Wear your reps happily. Life is too short to be wasting worrying about this, we might all die any day from the orange doofus starting ww3 anyway.

Editing to add:

The one situation where reps ARE easily clockable are when it’s a rep of an ultra rare bag and it doesn’t fit your lifestyle.

E.g Buying a Lizard skin CF, or the new Chanel 25 pony hair bag. An extremely limited number were produced, and VVIPs were heavily prioritised for it. It’s not a bag where the “I got it from a friend” story would work.
And no, “resale” won’t work either because there are very few up for resale, and they’re selling for 2.5x retail. Unless you’re someone who’s known to shop frequently at the boutique, it’ll be an obvious rep to anyone who knows anything Chanel.

I’m getting the rep knowing that it’ll be an obvious rep even if it’s a perfect “mirror” (hate that term) copy. I’m ok with that.

So many people are rushing to buy it without consideration of that. It’s not a bag to buy if you care about passing and you don’t have extensive Chanel boutique history.

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u/VogueEverything — 3 days ago

Seller Personality Glossary

Since there’s a lot of discussion around sellers that are nice/not nice

I thought I’d share one line opinion/experience summaries of different sellers in terms of their personality so newbies/those looking for a seller can find a match for themselves.

Anyone who wants to share, please feel free to add on!

Please remember these are only personality reviews, not reviews of their products since most sellers source from the same places anyway

And DO NOT DM ME FOR SELLER INFO PLEASE USE THE SEARCHBAR AND GOOGLE AND COMPARE NUMBERS ACROSS MULTIPLE SUBREDDITS TO PROTECT YOURSELF

  1. The infamous Amelia - extremely unkind, will likely insult you if you annoy her. Not for newbies, does not like being asked questions on quality, how to order, payment etc.
  2. Please do not go to her if you’re a newbie, you will get burnt. Honest and upfront about quality BUT doesn’t like being asked questions lol. So if she answers instead of insulting you, it’s a solid answer. Very blunt and to the point, you’ll never get a “dear” out of her. After years of working together i received a smiley face and I nearly asked “omg what are we?”

She’s still one of my favourite and long time sellers, but I also speak Chinese and have my own reasons.

  1. Doris/Baobao - These two are so similar personality wise that I wonder if it’s the same teams. They’re nice/friendly enough. Will answer basic questions on what factory to choose for a bag etc.

However please remember that sellers are not experts in luxury goods, their opinions should be taken with a grain of salt. Baobao’s recommendations tend to be better than Doris, but I’ve also gotten recommendations from her that weren’t the best.

  1. Tong - Friendly, friendlier and chattier in Chinese than English. Will answer basic questions. Upfront about quality. More restricted factory access than Baobao and Doris

  2. Amanda - friendly, nice, however tends to ghost people. Your bag WILL arrive once you’ve paid and GL but you might get 0 communication in between. NOT for the anxious. She also ghosts people BEFORE taking your money, sometimes it’s kinda hard to get her to actually take my money. If you’re ready to pay, call her. She’ll respond faster.

  3. Maya - both her and her assistant are very friendly. Nothing much else to say. Will answer questions about quality but not necessarily proactively tell you.

  4. Didi - neutral, not mean ; sometimes friendly. Will answer questions about quality, if you’ve ordered with her often and she knows your standards she will tell you. She doesn’t send PSP and can be hard to work with on returning items so NOT recommended for newbies

  5. Belly - ultra friendly. Her and her team have great customer service. Unfortunately she’s had a run in with the law and they aren’t online; their albums are taken offline. I’ve included her as she’s said to return soon. Great seller for newbies looking for clothes

  6. Anna Lin - friendly, not much to say. Limited selection of clothes, good for newbies looking for clothes

  7. Chloe - blunt, direct, doesn’t talk much, but is not mean. Will answer questions, sometimes has more knowledge than other sellers. Is also priced a bit higher than average. Doesn’t do returns most of the time so you’re stuck if you get an item with defects but will tell you upfront

  8. Leo - friendly, cheaper than most sellers. Just a warning that the quality of the clothes he sources can be hit or miss. He’s not super talkative

  9. Ai Weiyuan/Alice187 - can be quite friendly. Also known to bait and switch and lie to buyers about factories, claiming some factories make items they’ve never produced. Buy at your own risk.

  10. Anna (Lindashian) - friendly until you have a problem, then will get mean. Also known to bait and switch and lie

  11. Garmen - ultra friendly. Great English. I reccomend her to new buyers often. Limited selection. Doesn’t disclose factory. I haven’t had a problem with any PSPs yet so I can’t judge how RL is handled tho.

  12. Jessie - friendly, big selection. However she doxxed a buyer on one of the old subs so won’t be going back.

  13. Miss Larry/L: friendly, some jackets are made by their own team so can be customized. High quality leather (usually), but has been caught multiple times making fake accounts pretending to be buyers to leave themselves reviews. Some jackets that aren’t custom made can be found at other sellers for cheaper

  14. Mandy - nice, friendly. Has been caught baiting and switching occasionally

  15. Heidi - really depends on the person you get. Has a huge team. Is the only seller that lets you pay a 50$ deposit for bags from 187 and RL if you’re unhappy with the PSPs and not pay the remaining amount. Do note your deposit will be forfeit and she won’t work with you again. I preordered the new pony hair 25 bag with her as 187 doesn’t do returns or exchanges and I don’t want to spend 600$ on a bad bag if the PSPs are terrible

  16. Luna - friendly, unremarkable (not an insult). Not much to say, my order went without a hitch, but she’s not very knowledgeable. Gives not so great reccomendations on quality but not in bad faith.

  17. David - Fine, unremarkable also. Friendly. Decent seller for newbies to start with

Anyway I’ve got more I’ve worked with, but off the top of my head these are the ones that first came to mind. If people find this useful I’ll expand and add more.

UPDATE: I have some time so adding a few more people I’ve worked with, keep in mind my experience is subjective

  1. Janie - easy to work with, friendly, good English, fast replies. A bit overpriced imo

  2. Vincent - same stuff as Janie but cheaper, but slow shipping. Friendly but English isn’t the best so be patient and use short sentences

  3. HP- friendly, good English, so is Booker’s. But shipping and PSPs are slooooooow. He also only does paid PSP for items that have factory photos

  4. Laomao - Unremarkable (In a good way). I only had one order but it went fine, friendly.

  5. Zhong Wen - same as laomao, no comments, only one order, no issues.

  6. Reykay - NOT reykey. Please note there are a LOT of sellers pretending to be the OG Reykay whose number ends in 1101. She’s friendly, blunt. Haven’t personally had issues but I see controversial reviews often, BUT, I wonder if those people are engaging with one of the fake Reykays

  7. Marko - NOT my experience, commenter below mentioned he has great customer service I’ve personally never had an order with him. Did some digging and a close friend attested to having a great experience with him so I thought I’d add this in, but there’s also another person in the comments below with a pending issue so take it with a grain of salt

  8. Wang - decent clothes, friendly. Uses gtranslate. Be patient and use small sentences. Takes payment by card.

  9. Old Cobbler - people have had great experiences with him, I personally have not, but in general people say he’s friendly and easy to work with. Very overpriced imo tho. Doesn’t disclose factory.

  10. Allen - friendly, easy to work with. Will source bags, good for newbies. Does not disclose factory

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u/VogueEverything — 6 days ago

Please help QC this 1,999$ B30 Birkin in Rose Sakura from Bagg Pitt! /cj

I didn’t do any research or use the search bar but I did spam every post with “seller????” And “WHO’S THE BEST FOR BIRKIN??” Until Mr.Bagg Pitt reached out to me directly and said he had just the bag for me.

And I said to give me MIRROR 1:1 ORIGINALÉ quality only. He assured me not only is it MIRROR and AUTHENTIC leather but in fact the bag is cleansed with the blood of REAL Hermés artisans that are kept in the basement of the Guangzhou factory

Do you think I should GL????

I also messaged Mr Pitt at 4am China time asking why the bag has “happy eyes” and not “happy on the outside but dead inside from the crushing weight of capitalism and class wars” eyes but he DIDNT REPLY TO ME WITHIN 12 MILISECONDS DO YOU THINK HE RAN AWAY WITH MY MONEY????

I SHOULD PERSONALLY REPORT HIM TO THE FBI RIGHT?????

/cj end

Sorry y’all, your girl Vogue has snapped

u/VogueEverything — 7 days ago

Let’s play a game: Guess the Auth!

While I’m cooking up a full review of the 187 version of this, I thought I’d post a comparison with auth.

Why do I have both? Because both my mum and I love this style and the store only had one. I also have an OF one on the way for my sister.

Which do you think is auth, one with handle wrapping or one without, and why? Give it your best guess 😉 I’ll give you a hint, there’s no difference in shape or slouchiness, one was just more used at time of photo and the handle was one belt hole tighter, the other had some tissue, and since then they both look the same unstuffed.

u/VogueEverything — 9 days ago
▲ 833 r/DHGateRepLadies+1 crossposts

Tough Pills for Newbies: Hard truths to accept before placing your first order

Given the influx of new buyers, I thought it would make sense to make a post explaining some harder pills to swallow before making your first purchase.

  1. Buying reps is NEVER 100% risk free.
    It doesn’t matter if it’s a trusted seller, it doesn’t even matter if YOU have had 99 good orders with them. Sellers can flip at any time e.g the infamous case of Joe running off with thousands of dollars after establishing trust as a seller of high quality Hermes.

You need to understand and accept the risk when you jump into this process.

  1. The fastest way to get scammed is to spam every post with “seller????” And “factory???” And make a post asking “what’s the best factory for a Chanel classic flap???”

Sellers lurk all rep subs, and so do scammers. You’re basically advertising that you’re a newbie and don’t know what you’re talking about.

Use. The. Searchbar.

And use your common sense. If 10 people with verified histories say “Baobao”‘s last four digits end in 1234, the 11th one you found that end in 9876 might not be the real one.

  1. This isn’t Bloomingdale’s. You don’t get to charge back because you’re not happy.

You’re buying an ILLEGAL item. I’ve lately seen so many cases of people encouraging each other to charge back because they weren’t happy with the psp or quality of the item.

Yes, it sucks, but this is the fastest way to get a seller to stop accepting PayPal or safer methods from everyone else. Multiple sellers have stopped accepting PayPal, and some now only take Western Union, which is painful as heck.

A lot of OG sellers like Redden no longer accept new buyers at all from people pulling this crap.

Lying that you expected a real item so you can get your money back on the fake item you knowingly purchased (which is what you need to do to get a charge back) is just as unethical as sellers dumping a low quality item on you. You don’t get to take the moral ground while committing financial fraud.

Unless a seller has truly taken your money and run off without delivering anything, you really need to understand that this is a risk of the business. You don’t get to charge back because you think the stitches are too crooked.

Name and shame the seller on the subs with picture proof and suck it up like the rest of us.

  1. You need to compare your PSPs to the FACTORY PHOTOS. You CANNOT compare your PSPs to the authentic.

Sellers are selling you FAKE BAGS. Factory photos are the representation of the FAKE BAG.

If your PSP shows the wrong font, and the factory photos shows the wrong font, you do not get to red light the bag.

It’s YOUR job to QC the factory photos against the authentic to make sure you are ok with the differences, and there WILL be differences

  1. Which brings me to point 4, there is NO SUCH THING as 1:1. There is NO SUCH THING as mirror.

Every rep, even the best ones, WILL have differences that a trained eye can spot.

Frankly, it’s major cope when people say shit like “Chanel’s quality is so bad these days that 187 is closer to auth than the auth”

Sorry but no. It seems a lot of people who say this aren’t actually experienced in handling luxury goods.

Every rep will have differences to the authentic. It’s up to you to spot them before you buy, and make sure the difference is tolerable to you.

My personal threshold is “can’t tell unless the person is holding it and looking closely” because I don’t let anyone touch my stuff anyway.

Maybe yours is “can’t tell unless side by side with auth”

Figure out your personal threshold and go from there, keeping in mind that there is no such thing as 1:1 and if you’re expecting that, please just save up and buy authentic to save your own self the a heartache of owning something that won’t make you truly happy.

  1. Buy only if you would pay 4 times the price for the design.

I think many people will disagree, but this planet has enough trash piling up. Everything we own, even the things we claim we want to keep and pass down will someday end up in a landfill.

I see too many posts of people posting 10 bags saying they got too excited about discovering reps and bought a bunch of things they don’t even like that much.

Please ask yourself, are you buying this because you truly love it? Or are you buying it simply because you now have access to luxury items at a price point that lets you go crazy?

You don’t buy 10 bags a month from h&m simply because it doesn’t affect your wallet right?

Please buy the items that bring you joy when you look at them, and that you know will fit into your wardrobe.

  1. Please stop asking if something can pass.

It literally doesn’t matter. Becca bloom wears blatantly obvious fakes (birkins with a strap, which is completely impossible and an obvious callout) and literally 99% of people assume it’s real.

Whether something can pass or not depends on YOU.

If you’re at Walmart picking up groceries with your real birkin, people will assume it’s a fake.

If you look polished and carry yourself with confidence, your low tier reps will look real.

And by polished I don’t mean fancy.

I come into contact often with ultra high net worth individuals in my line of work and they show up in sweatpants to meetings sometimes with their hair in a pony tail.

But, they always smell good. Their nails are clean even if not done. Teeth are clean and straight (unfortunately yes, crooked teeth are a class indicator though I wish they weren’t). Even the men clearly put in effort into grooming.

In Asia, you can walk into an Hermes and see the husbands sitting with their kids in what appears to be a random pair of shorts and a tee, but they have a clear aura of confidence.

Why? Because they have nothing to prove.

The biggest give away of a rep is lack of confidence. Hunching over, tucking your bag behind you, flipping it so the logo is hidden are all giveaways that you’re not comfortable in your bag. (This doesn’t apply to places where snatching is a risk).

You want an uncalloutable bag? You need to BE uncalloutable. The bag will follow.

And frankly, ain’t nobody looking at closely at you girl. Everyone has their own business to tend to.


I understand the tone of this post may put some people off. But this game isn’t for the thin skinned.

If you’re a newbie reading this, free to drop any questions below in the comments that aren’t the obviously searchable ones

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u/VogueEverything — 9 days ago