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I collect music in both formats, with CDs a little more because of their price, however I enjoy vinyl aswell, and I find that sometimes buying new vinyl records may feel a little more rewarding, but my question is:

In a social environment, where I have groups of friends to gather around and we play music on physical format, in your opinion, which one may be better, or suit better to the environment?

I ask because ive been with friends where we may set up a turntable and play select records, but we never really finish through them, but the experience is still fun, but id like to know if CDs will work well aswell

I've got both formats, however I have more of my favourite albums on CD, or I have albums on one format that I dont have on the other, like more Beatles related on vinyl, or more Pink Floyd on the other, would the experience of playing CDs with friends hold up to the experience of playing vinyl around with them? Like we can all bring our fsvourite records and play them on a turntable for all of us, but CDs are better for transport, which means you can bring more for better selection, but im not sure about the experience

Id like to hear your opinion, based on your own experiences if you've had them, whether you may prefer one or another? Id just like a taste of what it may be like before I do it with my friends next, as we all have varied physical media collections and we'd be good to have both

Sorry for lengthy post...

For what it is, what it covers, it has some iconic moments and all round it is a great movie, obviously there's a lot missed out and twisted that I'm not comfortable with.

I'm gonna first point out that I know the movie ends in 1988, way before the controversial parts, and I believe he is innocent and I know full well the movie did in fact try to cover those moments in his life but some clause basically turned the tides of the plot of the film and most things had to be changed. Here are some comments I'd like to make:

1. I think the movie should've ended in 1984, the years between the end of the Victory Tour and 1988 would've been a movie in itself, increase in media exposure, the recording of Bad, the Tour, Brooke Shields, Captain EO, too much to skip over. I liked the ending, but it seemed very out of place.
2. Why the gap between 1970-78? Some important stuff happened between then and no I'm not talking about Dancing Machine and the Get It Together album, but the switchover from Motown to CBS, the start of his distancing from his father, Jermaine being left behind in Motown as he married Berry Gordy's daughter, The Wiz?? That's the most mind-blowing part how they missed out the Wiz. It opened up MJ's acting career and he was introduced to Quincy through the filming, who just appears in the movie like nothing. Come on.
3. Probably just me, but if you know the Victory Tour, you'd know it was called Victory because of the album, not from his dad, but they don't explore this in the movie, I know the Victory album itself is pretty irrelevant but in terms of the costumes and that for the tour, it plays a part. And my main criticism is, why did they change the song for the encore? I like Working Day and Night, but it feels a little choppy especially when MJ says 'Break it down', which was important to the original arrangement of Shake Your Body in the actual tour, if you listen to the original tour's encore, and that show specifically, the breakdowns fit so well as that song was made for an extended jam, and would've fit so much better into the film. We already got songs from Off The Wall and close to none from Destiny which is a really important album to MJ, as along with his brothers it was the first album they properly wrote their own stuff and self-produced it, actually recording it at their family home, mostly. The From Motown to Off The Wall documentary covers this well, I recommend watching that, has narrations from people who were actually involved including Quincy himself.
4. The Triumph Tour. 'I need to think', I thought in the trailer when MJ said that he was referring to the Victory Tour, that would be very fitting, but no, it was referred to the Triumph Tour. This is really inaccurate, Michael wanted to do the Triumph Tour, in fact he designed the stage, lighting, costumes and set for this tour, he was all in, especially as it also allowed him to showcase songs from Off The Wall. But the way the film disregards this and turns it into another family argument and issue in the film I think is a little disrespectful. I do love the movie rendition of Ben though, the triumph tour version is the best so I love that inclusion.
5. I think they made MJ way more immature then he actually was. He wasn't this really pure guy, he was an adult, I'm on about the twister scene obviously, and yes I'll play twister with you Michael, but he was an adult performer, he knew about groupies, he had relationships, I believe he was innocent of any wrongdoing throughout his life, but come on, he had knowledge. And yes I have read accounts where he turned groupies away and refused to spend time with them, even making Billie Jean as some sort of deterrent against them with how wild their behaviour could be.
6. And finally, his nose surgery scene. The film made it out to be that he was made insecure by his dad and that was the full reason. That is right, his dad did make him insecure with the bullying, but it wasn't the reason for the first nose surgery. In 1979 for the Destiny Tour he was rehearsing for a show until he fell off the stage and broke his nose. For rapid healing he had to get surgery which yes did repair his broken nose, but it made it harder for him to breathe, hence the constant repeat of surgeries thereafter to try repair it, it was only convenient, unfortunately, that MJ was insecure about it anyways and it somewhat went in his favour.

That's really all I have to say about the film, I feel it was rushed and it wasn't in depth enough but there's only so much you can do with a 2 hour runtime and Hollywood executives breathing down your neck as you write the script. But I did enjoy it when I saw it, and it brought out some deep cuts that really took me by surprise like Dreamer or Think Happy. I think for what this film was it was great, but there's always improvement, and I didn't want to come across like I was bashing this film, I was just thinking about it all this time and I hope you guys respect my ranting, once again I believe he was fully innocent, he is one of my favourite artists of all time and what comes with being an MJ megafan is knowing his backstory well through what I read all the time. I've been a fan for ages and have waited for this film since it was first announced so I hope you guys understand my thought process on a film I've been waiting and following up with basically forever now.