u/Weird-Secretary-9565

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# Concerns About Spa Outsourcing Practices in Some Amsterdam Luxury Hotels

I want to share concerns I’ve heard from multiple spa therapists regarding outsourced massage and spa services connected to several luxury hotels in Amsterdam.

Hotels mentioned by therapists included:

\- L’Europe Hotel
\- Waldorf Astoria
\- Sofitel Spa
\- 27th Hotel

Rosewood Hotel was mentioned separately, with somewhat different concerns.

To be clear: these are allegations and personal accounts shared by therapists and staff. I cannot independently verify every claim, and I encourage anyone reading this to do their own research.

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\## Concerns About Outsourcing & Working Conditions

Several therapists described concerns related to an intermediary company called VIP-Treatments, which allegedly manages outsourced spa personnel for some hotels.

According to therapists I spoke with, concerns included:

\- Feeling underpaid relative to the luxury prices charged to guests
\- Spending significant unpaid time preparing, traveling, or waiting between treatments
\- Confusion regarding freelance/ZZP structures and exclusivity expectations
\- Lack of clarity around contracts and employment arrangements

Some therapists questioned whether these practices fully align with Dutch labor standards, though I cannot independently confirm this.

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\## Concerns About Tips & Administrative Practices

Some therapists also described dissatisfaction regarding how tips and administrative procedures are handled.

Examples shared included:

\- Concerns that parts of pooled tips may be redistributed internally
\- Complaints about being asked to perform additional front-desk or reception-related tasks
\- Frustration regarding invoicing or VAT-related procedures connected to receiving gratuities

Again, these are claims made by therapists and should not be interpreted as established facts or legal conclusions.

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\## Product Quality & Hygiene Concerns

A few therapists also expressed concerns regarding product quality and hygiene practices.

Among the concerns mentioned:

\- Use of lower-cost neutral massage oils despite premium pricing
\- Reuse or refilling of product bottles
\- Questions about cleaning procedures and product handling standards

I cannot verify these claims personally, but I believe they are worth discussing if accurate.

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\## General Facility Concerns

Additional concerns mentioned included:

\- Treatment rooms sometimes feeling too cold
\- Maintenance issues allegedly taking a long time to resolve
\- Questions about cleaning frequency in some spa areas

These may vary by location and personal experience.

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\## Final Thoughts

Luxury hotels charge premium prices, and guests naturally expect:
\- excellent service
\- high hygiene standards
\- ethical labor practices
\- transparency

I hope hotels and outsourcing providers take employee concerns seriously and continue improving working conditions and operational standards where needed.

If others have had experiences — positive or negative — I’d be interested to hear them.

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u/Weird-Secretary-9565 — 3 days ago
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⭐ 1 star — DHL Express

DHL Express keeps attempting to deliver our packages to house number 6 in the Makroon Building, where nobody is present. Our correct address is house number 10, and our premises are located outside the Makroon Building.

The correct address is written on the package, and our postcode is 1016XP. Package comes from Hong Kong and must arrive to Amterdam, The Netherlands.

Our commercial space has two large windows with our company name clearly visible, so it should be obvious where the packages need to be delivered. However, the packages keep being taken to the wrong address, and then we receive a message saying: “We missed you.”

Of course we only have one body per person — we are waiting at the correct address!

This causes delays, wasted time, and problems for our business. We urgently ask DHL to correct the delivery instructions and make sure drivers deliver only to house number 10, postcode 1016XP, at our business premises.

Please do not deliver our packages to number 6 anymore. Our address is number 10, postcode 1016XP, and our company name is clearly displayed on the large windows.

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u/Weird-Secretary-9565 — 3 days ago