u/Wise_Combination1054

Are Armenians really Indo Europeans? and what does it mean if PIE homeland is in Anatolia or Armenia?

First off, I think anyone who checks would see the modern Armenian virtually has low Yamnaya DNA, I myself, through Qpadm and G25 are on average 3-7% Yamnaya, and I am a mix of Western/Eastern Armenian (Where Yamnaya arrived)

The language of Armenian is very different, I understand the verbs, nouns, and changes that Armenia had (such as softening the words), what I don't understand is how can Armenians be Indo European when

A) our language is not similar to any IE language except for some words that could be loanwords, albeit Classical Armenian does have much more similarities.

B) Our genetics, even during Yamnaya invaisions, were low, much lower than any neighbor we had. The average Modern Armenian has 4% Yamnaya.

C) I know "R1b" is the majority, but not by much. technically, but I don't know a single Armenian that has it. Everyone I know either has J1, or J2. R1b is still pretty rare for someone I know. Steppe haplogroups such as I2 completely seem to have left, when they dominated most of Armenia.

D) words like "Eagle" in Armenian are translated as "Arciv", which languages such as Kartvelian also have, likely indicating it borrowed from Armenian, but how could Kartvelian borrow such a word from Armenian, when "IE" Armenian didn't exist at the time?

I know, I know, I will catch a lot of flack for this, I'm not a scientist, not someone smart, but what I can see happening is:

Yamnaya rode in through Eastern Georgia, arrived in parts of Armenia, mostly dominated villages such as Lchashen and ultimately the start of the Lchashen Metsamor Culture, they spread their genetics pretty far, as most samples had it, but we can also see a lot of samples, during LMC times, that have less than 6% yamnaya and non yamnaya haplogroups, which shows that even during the peak of their culture, not all Armenians mixed with them or even interacted.

Could the Armenian language be the predecessor the Proto Indo Europeans, or atleast not be Indo European, just heavily influenced by them?

How can the Armenians speak the language of someone that conquered their lands and genetic? Were our ancestors really that weak? Did they really on horseback ride into Armenia, marry with local women, and give us the language as a sheer reminder of how strong they were? I cannot bring myself to believe it.

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u/Wise_Combination1054 — 2 days ago

So my card declined, i got it 2 days ago. I was attempting to just buy $50 worth of credits and was paying a Skrill bil. just for those 2 txns I think they closed my account/. Wtf is this?

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