u/WitlessMean

What is the play pattern on this champ supposed to be?

Just curious on how you guys plan out games generally cause I don't really get it.

Youre a power clear jungler but you don't scale well. So when are you supposed to stop clearing and start fighting? After second full clear?

How do you play games with ungankable lanes? I feel like since youre a mid game champ if you don't get ganks going you're just cooked.

Interestingly, I followed that really high elo KR otp, and the dude invades in like 70% of his games. Kinda crazy to me since hec doesn't strike me as that kinda champ but this guy makes it work.

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u/WitlessMean — 6 days ago

I'm convinced doing raptors first is not good. (most of the time)

low emerald hard stuck btw, so just my shitty experience.

I mostly do not open raptors. When I do, I run into this situation where if I start top for example (if my raps are on top side), and the enemy started bot, and I gank bot, they basically get top crab and raps for free, sometimes even my krugs if the gank goes a bit long.

If I don't gank and they get vision on me, I basically have to back and sprint back to my raptors so they don't get them. You might say well in that case I can just take their raptors, but if I don't have vision on them, they can show up at their own raptors with item advantage. I literally don't run into this issue at all if I start my buff first.

I think rap starts are good if you are going for an immediate invade, or you're vs a champ like kindred who can hop over wall and level 2 you (in which case it might be better to do red asap idk), or a champ like kayne or amumu who like to late invade your raptors.

maybe in high elo where early fights happen more often it's better.

since i've been shit since season 2 you can let me know your thoughts thanks.

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u/WitlessMean — 8 days ago