r/Jungle_Mains

I’ve been in a wicked down slope lately and am deciding to do a refresh and take a step back from what I’ve been doing. I mainly play tanks / set up champs but in gold/silver I’m just not making it work. I’ve never really played any of the assassin / glass cannons and I think maybe that could help push me to be a 1v9 player. What assassin in the jungle do you think is the easiest to learn / most forgiving? I’ve been playing eve the last couple days. Seems very fun but I’m really struggling with her. The clear, hitting the charm, not getting detected/predicted… even though im invis it feels like everyone just knows exactly where I am all the time even though nothing is revealing me so clearly im just doing something very wrong.

I'm looking for some fun raid boss junglers to play. Shyvana is really strong but she's kind of boring. I was looking at Udyr and volibear. What do you guys think about these champions and do you have any recommendations on other champions in the archetype?

I just had a realisation why jungle can feel awful sometimes.

Compare it to the support role - you will always have your support item, you will never be irrelevant when fall behind, and you’re meant to support your laners.

I believe originally jungle was supposed to be a supportive role before riot transformed it into a carry role.

But you still support your laners via ganks and objectives, and whats more your economy depends on the success of these ganks.

This seasons quest made it even more confusing - they want you to be a supportive role according to this quest! Your gold and xp had been nerfed compared to laners, so technically you should let them carry.

And yet when you’re behind you’re a total dog, unlike an actual support. The only saving grace is catchup xp.

So its a limbo between Carry vs supportive role and that’s why its weird.

You can definitely carry sometimes, you can also be a supportive jungler, but its like riot never decided which its going to be, so we got shitty jungle pet, worthless quest, and unclear instruction whether to farm or gank your losing lanes.

Riot itself is in my opinion clearly indecisive on what they want jungle to be, and here we are.

This isn’t a post about why ‘jungle is weak’ or whatever, its more pointing out that its badly designed.

Hey,

Looking to swap from ADC to JNG.

Any guides, resources, videos you recommend to someone who has no clue about jungle?

Many thanks!

Is blackfire troch actually good for lilla as first item instead of lindriues? Then build lindriues or is it good in different situations?

Is ability haste better than taking adaptive force in the runes?

For boots i know defensive ones are the best but when you don't need them do i go onvimanp one or the ability haste one?

Dark seal do i get it before the first item power spike or after?

Would really love someone answering these questions for me as lillia is very fun champ and she is getting buffs and will be even more broken

Lately my team and I have been trying the “Power I” meta, where I setup as a normal jungle but just play in bot lane as we have push, ensuring we get first tower. I run to get grubs then right back to bot - same happens with the rift appears. On average we have been pushing to the inhibitor before 15 minutes! My win rate had skyrocketed and we are bullying the bot lane like shoving a nerd into a locker. Hop on the train! This has gotten us to climb from Iron!

the mordekaiser game was me having silly fun with a morde otp friend laughing at me while watching my god awful gameplay so ignore it

/mute all, permafarm and play for myself

i once was a slave to the "need help" ping and always blindly followed the team, now i permafarm and gank only when i think it is a guaranteed kill

i'm a Quinn otp and with gold generation runes im consistently a whole item ahead of everyone with jungle camps alone

as a mere platinum player, i die a LOT but i'm trying to fix that, and simply muting the team after first fullclear has helped my mental and my death score a lot in all of these games

slight tangent: I LOVE ACCIDENTALLY CLICKING ON THE AP SHACO CLONE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME AND ALMOST COSTING ME A GAME ALL ON IT'S OWN BECAUSE THE CLONE TAKES INCREASED DAMAGE AND A HARRIER PROC FROM A FULL BUILD QUINN LITERALLY ONETAPS IT FROM almost FULL HP

anyway... went from freshly being plat 4 to being two games away of emerald in two weeks

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Is it worth to path top to bully them and make them weaker? Or should I just assume they will become beasts lategame and try to snowball bot so they carry?

It does makes sense to me to path top and abuse their weak early. But from my experience playing toplane it seems like most junglers still ignore toplane even if one of the teams picked an hyperscalers.

Like if I have 1500 gold and I can buy a component but not a full item. Should I get the component? Obviously item full spikes are better. But I’m mainly wondering about components.

Should probably just clear camps first then back for components right?

I was checking my stats on league of graphs and realised I snowball games way better than others in my elo, but surrender more and lose more games when behind against the same.

I feel like I have a tendency to greed for resources when I could be making plays or chunking out laners. I'm in P1 and spend most of the early and mid game at 8-9 cs/m and will almost always secure first 2 drakes unless mid and bot are hard lost, and I think thats where I fuck up. If I can't stack drakes and farm hard, I feel like the game is cooked.

My second choice is to fish for ganks bot. If that fails and my top is losing, I just reset and repeat until something works or we lose the game. If a lane is hard losing I don't cover them and it normally happens that I will get invaded and drop levels and then will go autopilot until gg.

How do you guys play from behind? Should you flip invading their camps with no vision if you have cleared as much as possible of your own? Or do you just walk around and pray your team gets enough gold and they throw?

Since junglers usually pick pretty early in champ select, I’m wondering what some good, versatile junglers are that I can confidently pick without knowing either team’s full draft.

I imagine playing an assassin into a tanky team with lots of CC wouldn’t be a great experience, also picking a low-damage tank when my team is already lacking damage.

I’m assuming it’s probably a fighter with some CC in their kit, maybe something like Rek’Sai, Xin Zhao, or Lee Sin?

Does anyone find it stupid that it feels like 90% of the time the people running your games down don't get banned until long after the game and there's 0 compensation. Especially when its obvious! For example, I had a yorick top say IN ALL CHAT that he's super drunk and cant even see straight. He then proceeds to go 0-11 and feed a morde, meanwhile im 9-2 on yi but it just didn't matter cuz the morde was huge. But even things like having a blitzcrank hooking my camps or laners just giving up and feeding. I don't know, I just think the disruptive system is missing a lot of clearcut throws that are genuinely dooming my rank. Thoughts?

I'm trying to improve my jungle game, what has helped the most recently is focusing on no unnecessary deaths.

I'm looking for advice on concrete fundamentals to focus on to improve.

If you could give someone the advice of two things to focus on to improve, what would it be?