u/Wout1888

Hi all,

I recently bought a 2023 cupra leon sportstourer with a 1.5 etsi and the dq200 dsg. I really like the car and it's been great so far but i cannot seem to figure out how to drive it in traffic.

I have read that you shouldn't use the break to keep the car slow and "to drive it like a manual" but i seem to struggle doing that.

*A few observations i have made*

When i lock the car in first gear and let of all the pedals on flat ground, the car rolls at 7kmh. In second gear this is 14-15 kmh.

I presume when im rolling at 7kmh in 1st or 15kmh in second, the clutch is completely closed and not slipping? I am right in thinking thag?

When I am in traffic in D, the car tries to shift to second the moment i go above about 9kmh and does not downshift until i havr come to a complete stop. This means that if i made it to 9kmh and slow back down to 7kmh, thr clutch is slipping in second right?

What i have been doing in traffic is putting it into sport mode so it holds 1st gear until about 14kmh but if i go above that it shifts to 2th and like in drive, it does not downshift until i have come to a complete stop. So when i encounter traffic that moves between a couple kmh and 20kmh i have been putting it into manual mode and shifting between 1st and 2th myself but this is pretty annoying to do.

*my questions*

1. does it actually mather wheter im shifting manually or just leave it in D in traffic? My dad owned a 2017 audi A6 with a 7 speed dsg and he drove the car in D when in traffic for all it's live and never had a problem eventhough it behaved the same as my dsg. I also have a friend with a bmw that had the steptronic and he also just leaves it in D and has never had a clutch issue despite being in near standstill traffic for 1 to 2h a day 5 days a week for 3 years.

2. what do you do when traffic moves slower than 7kmh? The advicr i read has said to either be completely stopped or at a speed where the clutcj is fully engaged but a lot of traffic i encounter is between 3 and 5kmh. That is to slow for the clutch to fully engage but its also to fast to start stop. I was told to not ride the breaks so Ive been comming to a complete stop for like 1 second, speeding up to 7kmh and then stopping again but i can immagine that that is gonna make passangers sick and ive already pissed of a lot of people behind me doing that.

3. what do people mean with "drive it like a manual"? They say smooth inputs which i get but when i drive a manual in traffic, i lift the clutch to roll the car and then depress it and just coast in neutral so i don't destroy the clutch. But a dsg doesnt have a clutch so you cant do that.

My thoughts about dsg's right now are that they are harder to drive than a manual and everytime im in traffic, i wish i had a manual. On the other hand, i find it hard to believe that after over a decade of R&D on DCT's and the prevalence of them today, driving in traffic is still such an issue. You would think that VW would have figured out how to make the dsg drivable in these very commen conditions.

Hi all,

I recently bought a 2023 cupra leon sportstourer with a 1.5 etsi and the dq200 dsg. I really like the car and it's been great so far but i cannot seem to figure out how to drive it in traffic.

I have read that you shouldn't use the break to keep the car slow and "to drive it like a manual" but i seem to struggle doing that.

*A few observations i have made*

When i lock the car in first gear and let of all the pedals on flat ground, the car rolls at 7kmh. In second gear this is 14-15 kmh.

I presume when im rolling at 7kmh in 1st or 15kmh in second, the clutch is completely closed and not slipping? I am right in thinking thag?

When I am in traffic in D, the car tries to shift to second the moment i go above about 9kmh and does not downshift until i havr come to a complete stop. This means that if i made it to 9kmh and slow back down to 7kmh, thr clutch is slipping in second right?

What i have been doing in traffic is putting it into sport mode so it holds 1st gear until about 14kmh but if i go above that it shifts to 2th and like in drive, it does not downshift until i have come to a complete stop. So when i encounter traffic that moves between a couple kmh and 20kmh i have been putting it into manual mode and shifting between 1st and 2th myself but this is pretty annoying to do.

*my questions*

1. does it actually mather wheter im shifting manually or just leave it in D in traffic? My dad owned a 2017 audi A6 with a 7 speed dsg and he drove the car in D when in traffic for all it's live and never had a problem eventhough it behaved the same as my dsg. I also have a friend with a bmw that had the steptronic and he also just leaves it in D and has never had a clutch issue despite being in near standstill traffic for 1 to 2h a day 5 days a week for 3 years.

2. what do you do when traffic moves slower than 7kmh? The advicr i read has said to either be completely stopped or at a speed where the clutcj is fully engaged but a lot of traffic i encounter is between 3 and 5kmh. That is to slow for the clutch to fully engage but its also to fast to start stop. I was told to not ride the breaks so Ive been comming to a complete stop for like 1 second, speeding up to 7kmh and then stopping again but i can immagine that that is gonna make passangers sick and ive already pissed of a lot of people behind me doing that.

3. what do people mean with "drive it like a manual"? They say smooth inputs which i get but when i drive a manual in traffic, i lift the clutch to roll the car and then depress it and just coast in neutral so i don't destroy the clutch. But a dsg doesnt have a clutch so you cant do that.

My thoughts about dsg's right now are that they are harder to drive than a manual and everytime im in traffic, i wish i had a manual. On the other hand, i find it hard to believe that after over a decade of R&D on DCT's and the prevalence of them today, driving in traffic is still such an issue. You would think that VW would have figured out how to make the dsg drivable in these very commen conditions.