u/Yandexoid

I accidentally bought Premium instead of Plus. It’s fully on me, but Faceit tries to bite you at every step, hiding Plus on purpose. So I didn’t pay much attention when I was making the payment.

I requested a refund on August 15, and I can’t play until they refund it, because otherwise it’s considered to be claimed.

Today is August 18. It’s been a few days of total silence. There was a weekend, but it’s already Tuesday in Europe.

And I know it’s just 4 euros more, but the fact that they’re literally trying to trick you into buying Premium instead of the cheaper Plus version is already stupid. Let alone the fact that they don’t allow you to play before the refund and don’t reply for multiple days.

Very dirty tactic for a few euros, guys. You could simply automate refunds or at least prioritize these tickets

Hey! I’m trying to understand how people with different accents in the Netherlands pronounce “-eer-” and “-ere-” in words like “meer”, “weer”, “leer”, “keer”, “beer”, “peer” and “leren”, “proberen”, “smeren”, “scheren”

1. I hear that quite often they are pronounced as [ɪː], like the vowel in the word “dit” but longer.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/File:Nl-peer.ogg

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/File:Nl-beer.ogg

And some people pronounce them as [eː], exactly the same as in words like “veel”, “heel”, “deel”, “geel”, etc.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/File:Nl-meer.ogg

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/File:Nl-weer.ogg

The phonetic IPA transcriptions are [pɪːr], [bɪːr], [mɪːr] and [ʋɪːr] and the phonemic transcriptions are /peːr/, /beːr/, /meːr/ and /ʋeːr/.

Does the pronunciation fully depend on the accent? Do you even notice this difference when you speak? I hear both pronunciations all the time from people who live in the same area, so I’m really confused.

2. Are these two sounds pronounced in the same way in all words? Regardless of which pronunciation we use, are all words with these sounds pronounced the same way - whether it is “weer”, “meer”, “beer”, “keer”, “leren”, “scheren” and so on?

3. This might be a bit tricky question, but is [ɪː] actually a long monophthong, or does it have something similar to the English word “ear”? I think I quite often hear not a pure long monophthong, but a small glide towards “e”, so it sounds more like the English “ear”. Is that a real thing? Or can we safely always pronounce these words with a long monophthong without any glide?

Thanks!