Vehicles that could've been added for BeNeLux

For the record, copy and pasting isn't bad IF, there are actual domestic designs from said nations, look at Hungary as an example, as sure most smaller countries just fielded other nations vehicles, especially during cold war and modern, but some still exist, so here is 18 vehicles from all 3 nations, images are in the same order as the list.

Belgium has a total of 8 in this:

COBRA 25: featuring a 25mm Oerlikon gun weighing under 10 tons, with 190hp

COBRA 90: featuring a 90mm Cockerill gun also keeping under 10 tons

COBRA LAU97: No gun on this instead 40 70mm rockets
(and all 40 rockets can be fired in 6 seconds)

M41 LCTS 90: Has the LCTS turret with a 90mm Cockerill gun, and same old M41 hull

Piranha IIIC DF30/DF90: these are in active service in Belgium, the DF30 has a Bushmaster 30mm and there are 2 versions of the DF30 one with and without spikes, and the other one has a yet another 90mm Cockerill gun

SABIEX Modernized AMX-13: this was apparently a very recent modernization in 2011, it boosted the speed from 60kph to 70kph, the horsepower was also increased by giving it a new engine with 400hp, while weighing roughly 14 tons, it has a CN-105-G1 gun.

And for something pre WW2 the T-15: Also known as the Vickers T-15 which has a 13.2mm MG which would basically make this a knockoff M2A2, 64kph max speed and 88hp while weighing 3.8 tons.

2 honorable mentions for Belgium:

Leopard 1a5BE Cockerill: already been covered on the sub.

SABIEX SK-105 Modernization: Also covered on this sub by me.

Netherlands with also 8 vehicles:

AMX VTT TOW: basically just a AMX VTT with a TOW launcher

AMX-13-105: I don't need to go on about this its a AMX-13-105, same turret as the DF105, but would have a lower profile

DAF M39: Made just before WW2, it has a BOFORs 37mm, with a 95hp engine while weighing 5.8 tons, top speed of 75kph

YP 408 TOW/Recoilless: Same hull different weapons, just like the VTT it's just a TOW launcher, but the second would probably be the better choice as it has a 106mm recoilless

YPR-765: This would basically be a tracked VBCI, as it has a 25mm Oerlikon gun, slower than a VBCI with a top speed of 61.2kph, weighing 13.7 tons.

YPR-765 PRAT: Same hull as the one before but this has a M901 turret, not much else I need to say, YPR-765 hull, and M901 turret.

Now this last one wouldn't be unique, but this would be something unique for the French tree, plus I've seen some people mention this, Centurion Mk 5/2 NL: This is a modified Centurion by the Dutch, most of the modifications wouldn't make a difference gameplay wise, but this would help France by actually giving the tree a stabilized tank before 9.0.

And some actual Luxembourg vehicles, sadly they didn't field any tanks and still don't, and I don't even know if they make any ground vehicle in the country, but there are 2 things I have to suggest which sadly are from other places:

M151 TOW and M1114 TOW: M151 Jeep with just a TOW on the back, and a Humvee with ALSO a TOW, these things would be pretty ratty, yes these are mostly American, but its hard to find anything that would work in game for Luxembourg.

u/YourLocalFrenchMain — 6 days ago

The Belgian SABIEX SK-105A2 Modernization

An upgrade to the SK-105A2 done by the Belgian company SABIEX, it adds full stabilization to the osculating turret, it has a new engine with a rated horsepower of 330 but maximum output can be higher than that.

Overall not much else to really mention it would probably just serve as a fully stabilized SK-105 with maybe a better engine, something for BeNeLux out of many many more vehicles that could be added from it.

u/YourLocalFrenchMain — 10 days ago

The AMX-50-120, The older brother to the Surblindé and Surbaissé

Saw the suggestion post the other week, sadly I think it was taken down for not following the suggestion rules, so here's one with the actual specs.

AMX-50-120
Same hull as the TOA100, and with a different turret from the Surblindé, the real differences would be in the autoloader and the power to weight.

Hull:
90/40/40 mm
1000hp
51 kph forward
19 kph reverse

Turret:
From what I was able to find the turret armor is much thinner than the Surblindé.
55/40/40mm
-6 to +13 depression and elevation
And with a 20mm on the roof

Ammo/Firepower:
It has a different autoloader, it has a drum autoloader like on the TOA100, but only holding 6 rounds, while also having and extra 44 rounds of ammo not counting the drum, 18 of which are in the turret.
It has the 120mm so don't need to mention what ammo or cannon.

And in total the entire tank weighs 59.2 tons with a power to weight of 16.89

Ideally the Surbaissé should be in a folder with this, as this came before it, hopefully this actually follows the suggestions guidelines.

u/YourLocalFrenchMain — 19 days ago

After half a year of no regular tech tree ground vehicles, we get one and it's copy and paste

The last ground vehicle added to France was in January, and that was the BattlePass ELC, and for Regular tech tree it was in November with the EBRC

u/YourLocalFrenchMain — 1 month ago

Proposal of what adding Swiss could look like for both Germany and France

Now there are many many more that could be added, but these are some main highlights that came to mind when making this, I'd like to see both nations get these vehicles and not just one. (and placements and ranks probably wouldnt be right)

The MOWAGs
MOWAG FL20: would go to both nations, since the Clovis is a thing I see it going to both cause of it

MOWAG FL-12 would go to France for it has the AMX-13 Turret, but could go to Germany for it is the SK-105 Turret which is used by Austria

MOWAG TML-105: Its the same turret the AMX-10RC and similar to the Vextra

MOWAG Rh-105: This would go to Germany for it has the RH-105 Turret

MOWAG Wildcat: Probably in a folder with the Gepard

MOWAG 40mm: Probably a bit above the LVKV

Everything else
AMX-13 AA: Don't know the actual name, but its just an AMX-13 with a AA turret designed and built by the Swiss, would probably go to France

Panzers 61/68/58: all of these would go to Germany, the 58 isn't shown as it would be at a lower BR than this range, the 61 I see being around the Leopard 1, maybe a bit below, the 68 I see being around the upgraded Leopards A1A1/1A5, maybe also a bit below.

The Leopard 140: Germany could use another Leopard so why not the 140mm

(this was made in like an hour)

u/YourLocalFrenchMain — 2 months ago