u/YourLocalFrenchMain

I'm really not a VA

I'll 100% it if I ever get a Surblinde

Now where to start, first thing to note is that if a nation with already 5 lines of vehicles without a subtree, should have a 6th line if they do get a subtree, same could apply to nations with an existing subtree if they get a second nation as a subtree.

But onto the tanks, the revisions are simple just some vehicles move around

AMX-10RC: moved to the TD line to be behind the EBRC

AMX-13 HOT: in a folder with the AMX-30 ACRA, AMX-13 HOT also relabeled as a TD for ammo box

SK-105A2: no longer in a folder with AMX-10RC

French tanks

Lorraine 155 mle. 51: different version of the mle. 50 but for the tech tree and not event

ELC EVEN 30: dual 30mm not a lot of pen but it does have APHE probably rank 4

EVEN 120: being basically a better M50, as it can fully traverse, and a few other things

EVEN 90: small rat with a 2 second autoloader, but probably a nerfed reload simply for gameplay reasons

AML-S530: dual 20mms for an AA around probably around 6.7

ERC 20 Kriss: another dual 20mm being slightly better in some regards to the S530 so probably 7.0

AuF2: better AuF1, better ammo 7.3-7.7 depending what else is on it

AMX-50-120: one of the last AMX-50s that can be added, basically Surblinde turret and TOA100 hull

M20: chunky AML basically 7.7-7.3

ERC 90 Lynx: HEATFS with a LRF I believe maybe 8.0

AMX-30EM2 or AMX-30V: one of the 2 either, no 20mm, ideally a 8.3 AMX-30

AMX-30C2: stabilized AMX-30 around 9.3

ERC 90 Sagaie 2: stabilized tank with LRF and darts, but no thermals, hopefully 8.7

AMX-10RC TML-105 Late: fully stabilized AMX-10RC with a 105mm

one of the 6 EPC Leclercs: basically a worse Leclerc with MSC ammo hopefully

AMX-10 T40: basically EBRC turret on a AMX-10RC

Vextra 120: autoloaded 120mm on the Vextra hull with less HP 600hp at 25 tons

Tropicalized Leclerc: just an export Leclerc nothing special just another Leclerc

Not in the picture but as honorable mentions Lerclerc XLR or Leclerc T4 if we start getting more modern tanks or the 140mms.

3 Franco-Swiss designs

These 3 could be added when/if Germany gets Swiss tanks, giving them the DF-105/Clovis treatment, but there are more variants of the each hull made.

MOWAG Shark FL-12: FL-12 turret on wheeled hull, closest we can get to that one EBR :( but with darts, and LRF, foldered with the SK-105

MOWAG Shark FL-20: same thing as the previous but with the FL-20 turret from the Clovis, foldered with the MARs 15

MOWAG Piranha TML-105: giant 10x10 with the TML-105 turret, foldered with the VBCI

BeNeLux designs

T-13: Belgian TD for rank 1

MTLS-1G14: Pre WW2 Dutch tank with dual 37s (could be added to US as well)

DAF M39: Dutch wheeled tank with a 37mm (could also be added to Germany)

CATI 90: Basically a ASU-57 but with 90mm firing HEAT, probably the 5.0 range maybe less

FN 4RM: like the CATI with a 90mm firing HEAT but enclosed and on a wheeled hull 6.7-7.0

Centurion Mk 7/2 AVDS: there was actually no designation for this variant, this is a Dutch Centurion with a 105mm and a better engine

COBRA 25: in the SPAA line probably being something like the AMX-10P where its not an actual AA but is labeled as one in game as you can use it as one as it has 60 degrees of elevation

AMX-13-105: foldered with the DF105, basically a shorter DF-105

Both YP-408s: Recoilless and TOW 8.0 to 8.3 probably

Humvee TOW: one of the few things that can be added for Luxembourg (Probably also added to USA)

COBRA 90: basically a non wheeled AMX-10RC, its got darts, thermals, and a LRF

SABIEX AMX-13: a modernized AMX-13 would function as a more zippy SK-105 with its 400hp engine

YPR-765 PRI/PRAT: one with a M901 TOW launcher, and one with a 25mm auto cannon 8.3-9.0 in that range for both

Piranga DF30/90: one with a 30 mm bushmaster, and one with a Cockerill 90mm both in the 9.0 range maybe 10.0

Leopard 1V: Dutch modification, I've seen this suggested, British gun on a Leopard basically

Fenris: EBRC Hull with a Cockerill 105mm turret

Leopard 1A5BE/3105: current one in game upgraded with MEXAS, and the second with the 3105 turret, ideally with the long turret ring

Then finally, the SABIEX SK-105A2: a modernization of the SK-105A2 with full stabilization

Premiums

A few premiums for both

FCM F1: only chance I see this getting add is as a Dreams come True event

Centurion Mk 5/2 AVDS: basically same as the Mk 7/2 AVDS just premium variant

COBRA LAU97: probably as a BP vehicle, Gaijin likes rocket vehicles as BPs

M41 LCTS: would probably function like the Cobra 90 just premium

Pluton: this one is a meme, dont take this one serious

One of the other EPC Leclercs as a premium: Premium Leclerc is all

Lux EBRC: once Luxembourg gets their EBRCs possible premium variant like how we have the trash puma with the pallets

Thoughts? most of theses are post WW2 and cold war simply cause that's what I'm most interested in and found the most fun researching.

For the record, copy and pasting isn't bad IF, there are actual domestic designs from said nations, look at Hungary as an example, as sure most smaller countries just fielded other nations vehicles, especially during cold war and modern, but some still exist, so here is 18 vehicles from all 3 nations, images are in the same order as the list.

Belgium has a total of 8 in this:

COBRA 25: featuring a 25mm Oerlikon gun weighing under 10 tons, with 190hp

COBRA 90: featuring a 90mm Cockerill gun also keeping under 10 tons

COBRA LAU97: No gun on this instead 40 70mm rockets
(and all 40 rockets can be fired in 6 seconds)

M41 LCTS 90: Has the LCTS turret with a 90mm Cockerill gun, and same old M41 hull

Piranha IIIC DF30/DF90: these are in active service in Belgium, the DF30 has a Bushmaster 30mm and there are 2 versions of the DF30 one with and without spikes, and the other one has a yet another 90mm Cockerill gun

SABIEX Modernized AMX-13: this was apparently a very recent modernization in 2011, it boosted the speed from 60kph to 70kph, the horsepower was also increased by giving it a new engine with 400hp, while weighing roughly 14 tons, it has a CN-105-G1 gun.

And for something pre WW2 the T-15: Also known as the Vickers T-15 which has a 13.2mm MG which would basically make this a knockoff M2A2, 64kph max speed and 88hp while weighing 3.8 tons.

2 honorable mentions for Belgium:

Leopard 1a5BE Cockerill: already been covered on the sub.

SABIEX SK-105 Modernization: Also covered on this sub by me.

Netherlands with also 8 vehicles:

AMX VTT TOW: basically just a AMX VTT with a TOW launcher

AMX-13-105: I don't need to go on about this its a AMX-13-105, same turret as the DF105, but would have a lower profile

DAF M39: Made just before WW2, it has a BOFORs 37mm, with a 95hp engine while weighing 5.8 tons, top speed of 75kph

YP 408 TOW/Recoilless: Same hull different weapons, just like the VTT it's just a TOW launcher, but the second would probably be the better choice as it has a 106mm recoilless

YPR-765: This would basically be a tracked VBCI, as it has a 25mm Oerlikon gun, slower than a VBCI with a top speed of 61.2kph, weighing 13.7 tons.

YPR-765 PRAT: Same hull as the one before but this has a M901 turret, not much else I need to say, YPR-765 hull, and M901 turret.

Now this last one wouldn't be unique, but this would be something unique for the French tree, plus I've seen some people mention this, Centurion Mk 5/2 NL: This is a modified Centurion by the Dutch, most of the modifications wouldn't make a difference gameplay wise, but this would help France by actually giving the tree a stabilized tank before 9.0.

And some actual Luxembourg vehicles, sadly they didn't field any tanks and still don't, and I don't even know if they make any ground vehicle in the country, but there are 2 things I have to suggest which sadly are from other places:

M151 TOW and M1114 TOW: M151 Jeep with just a TOW on the back, and a Humvee with ALSO a TOW, these things would be pretty ratty, yes these are mostly American, but its hard to find anything that would work in game for Luxembourg.

An upgrade to the SK-105A2 done by the Belgian company SABIEX, it adds full stabilization to the osculating turret, it has a new engine with a rated horsepower of 330 but maximum output can be higher than that.

Overall not much else to really mention it would probably just serve as a fully stabilized SK-105 with maybe a better engine, something for BeNeLux out of many many more vehicles that could be added from it.

Saw the suggestion post the other week, sadly I think it was taken down for not following the suggestion rules, so here's one with the actual specs.

AMX-50-120
Same hull as the TOA100, and with a different turret from the Surblindé, the real differences would be in the autoloader and the power to weight.

Hull:
90/40/40 mm
1000hp
51 kph forward
19 kph reverse

Turret:
From what I was able to find the turret armor is much thinner than the Surblindé.
55/40/40mm
-6 to +13 depression and elevation
And with a 20mm on the roof

Ammo/Firepower:
It has a different autoloader, it has a drum autoloader like on the TOA100, but only holding 6 rounds, while also having and extra 44 rounds of ammo not counting the drum, 18 of which are in the turret.
It has the 120mm so don't need to mention what ammo or cannon.

And in total the entire tank weighs 59.2 tons with a power to weight of 16.89

Ideally the Surbaissé should be in a folder with this, as this came before it, hopefully this actually follows the suggestions guidelines.

Its just a meme

Just a meme of course