When Zac and Baron really want you to get your first Penta on Naafiri

Shout out to Zac for carrying the game and the Penta. Can someone explain why Zac isn't more popular/played in pro play? Any time I play with or against him he always feels ridicolously strong.

u/acoolrandomusername — 2 months ago

How to prevent losing lanes from spiriling out of control?

Hi, I've recently swapped from toplane to jungle, and I'm finding the games more fun than ever. My issue is that I don't understand how to stop losing lanes from spiraling out of control. Even in the 18/4/13 game, all of my teammates had 10+ deaths. And in the Talon game, I started 5-1 but was unable to do anything with it as the laners were already too strong, and I'm less comfortable on Talon. This was less of an issue when I played toplane, as I was one of those lanes, and I played a hyperscaler. It would be easy to blame my teammates, but since a better player would have won all of these games, I'd love to learn what to do better in these situations.

I try to jungle track and warn my teammates, but I'm wondering whether I should do more than that? For example, Darius was pushing up against Aatrox under the tower, and I pinged him and the specific top-side camps around 10 times, as my ward had caught Jax starting red and pathing top. While Jax did that, I invaded his botside and stole his blue and gromp. But since Darius refused to listen, died, and eventually went 2-8 and pressed surrender, I still lost that trade. Should I have matched Jax and counter ganked from my blue instead of invading his botside, Darius had a bit more health than Aatrox? Since it was ranked flex, Darius isn't actually a silver player, but an Emerald toplaner in ranked solo/duos.

In the Nasus game, my game plan was to invade him so heavily that he would fall behind in Q-stacks and farm. Which I sort of succeeded with, as his midlaner and both botlaners before the laneswap, had to come and help him secure his respawned red. The problem with denying him farm was that it forced him to gank more often, while I had basically 3 quadrants of farm. This resulted in my top + botlane racking up 41 deaths in total. So should I perhaps have invaded less, or respawned my own camps fewer times, to better match his ganks?

A related question I have is in regards to unfavorable 2v2/3v3s. In the Xin game, I tried my best to avoid him and fighthing fights when both of us were there, as I felt like he'd win those squirmishes. Instead I'd look for more favorable fights, ganks and counter jungle opportunitines elsewhere. But given all my teammates played champs that like to fight, they would more or less take any fight, no matter how unfavored. So my botlane ended up with 23 deaths, mid 8 and top 7. And I think I might have made it worse by not sending it with them?

u/acoolrandomusername — 3 months ago