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So I've been on this subreddit for ages. Even after I've stopped kratom, I think it's important that people have access to it. I know how much it helps people. And there's been one thing about the lawmaking that has worried me to no end. I wanted to see if anyone else had the same worry.

It was MGM-15 and MGM-16. I've known about these for awhile now. And I was worried that if they only banned 7-OH, we would just be in the same place as now. I feel that local legislators would have gotten annoyed that new things kept popping up, and they sentiment to ban regular kratom would eventually take over.

And like clockwork, the 7-OH suppliers have already started switching to MGM-16. They likely didn't anticipate that the feds would also ban those and expect that it would be a wide open loophole. And then it would be some goofy whack-a-mole thing, and the local governments would lose their patience.

Hitting them all at once was a very smart move.

I do worry about other analogues and synthetic bastardized things popping up. Even with 7-OH, it can turn into 8-OH and 11-OH, which is part of why 7-OH is dangerous. There's always going to be an attempt to make new things to sell. The only thing that will keep regular kratom safe is that it's normalized into society. I think the AKA needs to work on regulation across the states. And maybe also labeling of products. Because people hate those tacky kratom signs and all of that. I want regular kratom to stick around. It helps so, so many people.

Anyway, I was just curious if this was on the back of anyone else's mind the past few months.

P.S.: Let's not make fun of the 7-OH people. Yeah they're annoying. They can't spell. They go on weird tangents that are conspiratorial and have no grounding in real life. But they're people. And maybe they can realize after awhile that maybe it was a bit crazy to think 7-OH would ever remain legal to buy at stores. Maybe some of them will land back on regular kratom and watch their bank accounts go back up. Either way, stay strong guys. I know that withdrawal from that stuff can't be easy.

I don't live in the state but occasionally go there for conventions. I know that the Board of Pharmacy recommended it be Schedule I (and I believe they have the authority to make it happen), but that was a few months ago. I went on their site and see that they've had meetings since then and nothing about kratom was on their itinerary. At least from the brief search I saw.

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Does anyone know what's going on with that state? It would be so ridiculous to take the Alabama route and start arresting all the people that go to Las Vegas. I'm sure there's also Canadians that take it too, and they've had a huge drop in that regard. Not to mention from all the other US states. I don't even take kratom anymore, but I think it's such a terrible idea from any point of view. Maybe they're waiting to see what happens federally?

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I'm just curious if anyone knows anything else. Thank you!

I've seen people talking about this for ages, and I've wondered if you guys know any more information than we do. For reference, I'm a fairly big Beatles fan. Like I read the anthology book, watched the original anthology DVDs, read a few biographies, etc. But I definitely know Dylan's career better in terms of intricacies (or at least, as much as you can gather. He's famously pretty secretive)

The topic is the whole "Bob Dylan told John to watch out for Yoko Ono" thing.

So from what I can loosely gather, my interpretation is this: George was in Woodstock. Likely 67-68 or whenever he visited Dylan while he was living the super domestic life. Pretty famous trip in both fanbases, probably. Anyway, I *think* the story is that Bob told George "Hey, John should watch out with Yoko. She's got a bad reputation in NYC". Then apparently George mentioned this to John (maybe as an attempt to persuade him?). Is that mostly the story?

I always wondered if this caused John to like Dylan less, if so. Like the whole "I don't believe in Zimmerman" line. Saying he didn't like anything Dylan did past 1966. The Serve Yourself rebuttal, etc.

I'm just looking for general information or clarity on all that. Does anyone know the alleged story any better than that? It could all be made up, but I'm just curious if anyone knows more about it. If so, I appreciate it!

You can change it to have more or less of water you want in there. Remove it entirely, double the Chex pieces, half the bread sticks, etc. What would be the new recipe, according to you?

I know the Board of Pharmacy suggested scheduling, but I really am worried about that state. Having a place like Vegas arresting people for kratom use is ridiculous. It's just been quiet for a month or so.

I've just been reading about hairline, and I was wondering if anyone recovered and had some of their hairline come back over time. I've seen it happen with other drugs, but I'm just curious.

Luckily, I didn't have a severe case of this or anything like that. But I did have general hair loss. Just curious if anybody (men or women) got a better hairline after stopping!

They're the only two Traveling Wilburys left. It's been that way for a good few years now. I always wondered if there's any information about that out there.

I know Jeff Lynne definitely lives in LA and has for awhile. Feels like the Wilburys was definitely an LA based thing at the start. But I also know Bob Dylan seems damn near without a home. Always just traveling around and touring. Not sure if they were ever super close or anything, but I'd assume they'd be friends to some degree

Always just wondered if they kept up with each other in the later years or anything like that