u/asamermaid

This might be super obvious to everyone who doesn’t have ADHD, but is it commonly thought that Sybell helped Tywin far more than just giving Jeyne some herbal birth control?

I’m rereading A Storm of Swords, where we have not went back to Riverrun post red wedding, and we haven’t met Sybell Spicer, but Tommen is signing some paperwork and this came up:

“Ser Kevan presented another sheaf of parchments to the king. Tommen dipped and signed. “This is a decree of legitimacy for a natural son of Lord Roose Bolton of the Dreadfort. And this names Lord Bolton your Warden of the North.” Tommen dipped, signed, dipped, signed. “This grants Ser Rolph Spicer title to the castle Castamere and raises him to the rank of lord.” Tommen scrawled his name.”

Castamere is a pretty hefty reward for just administering some moon tea.

Is it possible that while Robb was wounded in the Crag, hopped up on Milk of the Poppy, that Sybell started communicating with Tywin immediately and orchestrated Jeyne sort of seducing Robb? I don’t believe Jeyne is in on it, but maybe Sybell encouraged Jeyne to give him a physical comfort knowing his honor would compel him to marry her? In the books, as far as I recall, neither Sybell nor Tywin ever mention that their plot extended further.

Because Jeyne is so different from Talisa background in the show, I don’t see it often discussed but I find it way more interesting than compelling, so I wanted to see how accepted/refuted the depth of the Spicer/Lannister alliance is.