u/atradayse

With the new trailer out, and Dr. Doom telling all the heroes that they have lived stolen lives really makes no sense. I've watched all the breakdowns as I'm wont to do from New Rock Stars, Screen Crush, Colton Ogburn and other things that come across my algorithm. They all point to the same thing. Due to the time travel of End Game, almost everyone is living lives they should not. Thor with his child, Steve with his child, Loki should be dead. There's more to the list. You get the point.

They all point to something that these people living caused Doom to lose his family, and he now holds all these people responsible. While this makes an intriguing bridge between the past MCU and this new team up movie...it's actually an absurd thing for Doom to be upset about. Doom should not exist. He didn't exist. When Kang was running the TVA the whole point was the 616 was the only universe that existed. And it notably did not have a Fantastic Four, and it did not have a Doom.

Doom is a stolen life at the point of Dooms Day. Dooms family are stolen lives. His outlook would entail that he should be killed. His family would need to be punished. Now you can look at this and say "He's a villain!" Sure...but that doesn't seem to be the mode the MCU is going for or what they have portrayed in the past. Thanos had a goal. I am certain we'd all agree, he would sacrafice himself for that goal. He didn't care that he was about to die right before Thor cut his head off. When the past Thanos watched that from Nebula's memory....his drive was not to go back and stop his own death, it was to make sure his goal was achieved and stuck.

Now we can say that Doom's priorities are different. In the comics I think his motivation comes from thinking he is the best to run the multiverse and the only way to save it is to destroy it and put it under his control. That may be....but that's a far cry from his stated motivation in the trailer of "You lived stolen lives, and now you must pay with them" and the logic all breakdowns are taking from it that he is correcting the multiverse from the actions of the Avengers and Xmen. He's part of the correction needed, and I don't think a "rule for thee but not for me" delusion would at all fit what they are trying to achieve with the Doom character.

I think this might be a massive misdirect from Marvel as they often do. Erik Voss from New Rock Stars has kicked around the idea, that to be honest I kind of dismissed that the universe had to self correct after the reverse dusting. That the universe randomly chose people across a multiverse to dust to correct it. Doom's family was one of those. If this was the case, then when Doom says that line "You are all living stolen lives" he's not referring to the Avengers. He's actually talking about ANYONE that survived the dusting or came back from the Hulk's snap. There were also thousands of Thano's troops that came from the past that later got dusted that adds to this calculus.

This would fit MUCH better with Doom's character. "If my family can be wiped out by anyone in the multiverse, then no one deserves to live. There is chaos when there is no control, and I'm the best qualified to control it."

This does lead to the question of the 'magic system' in the MCU. There is the multiverse, and timelines. In the TVA it's all one. But how would snaps when there is no multiverse affect multiverses that aren't allowed to exist yet. Again, looking at the TVA outside of time, this can get explained, but it's a snag.

The other thing kind of unrelated. But I think there might have been something else going on with Steve Rogers. He's never been selfish. He's never not completed a mission. And we all just accepted that he did both. We cheered it on. But it actually demolishes his character. I would love to see something that shows why that happened.

I'm sure I'm missing some things, but it's bothered me so here it is.