I'm looking for answers from MJ himself, so not theory's or anything like that, I wanna know what the king of pop wanted his fan base to look like and how he wanted to shape it,
I know most of all, he wanted us to be kind, to the world, heal it, love it, And love your fellow man,
Its either Bella Donna for pre voice change, or TISL for post voice change tbh
When he say's he's only had a chin implant, and two nose jobs, I think he is simply saying that those were the only ones he actively choose to have and that the rest we're due to issues with say his Lupus or things healing wrong, I really think Michael wasn't lying instead was simply saying the facts, He only choose to have those 3 plastic surgeries and the rest were simply due to his lupus and problems with say his nose, Michael was a very private person and likely didn't want to admit that his nose was having so many complications that needed to fixed, Likely fueling flames to the tabloid
Thoughts?
I notice when a lot of people want to say he's guilty there is an over analysis of every detail of why and how he acted and why he acted that way, It feels like a lot of the time while based off evidence to some degree is taken to such a degree of theorizing and applying to systems that it gives them the answer they want to hear? It seems they use books and study's and things that while based in fact to some degree that if applied to anything and everything he's done it could very well read as true, such as anyone who does armchair psychology any theory of say a crime could be applied to anyone thus making it more "Likely" that they did it, A lot of what I see from guilters is simply over analysis and as a result of that over analysis tells them what they want to hear
I'm asking this because it appears to the community this is her "Worst album" "Worst" then Street Angel, I wanna know what people say out right because I'm confused.
I enjoy the album a lot through its a good album to me, A passionate yet relaxing listen
What I mean by that is no paparazzi, Able to go to the store on his own or at least with a body guard. Things We enjoy but Michael couldn't, What if Michael was allowed to have... Privacy?
For those who hate the bloom (I love the bloom and the low quality of the original but that's just me)
I know many of us enjoy obscure Stevie media so figure I'd share mine!
I get curious about how Michael felt about being viewed as "White" or "Not liking his race" How did Michael handle these things in the media and his personal life?
As I get to know him I relate and understand him, Such as his love for the arts and refining his craft down to the last detail, and being viewed as weird and strange yet sensitive inside, with a love for humanity and the earth
Does anyone else relate to Michael? I see myself in him as strange as it sounds
I wanna know stuff for the die hard fans, I know her demo's circulate out there, and I know Stevie has a underground lost media community, but what is stuff that is Obscure or only known by us fans and not casual listeners?
Edit: Not many people know about the enchanted box set and its remasters
As an autistic person these days existing is hard because everyone does an over analysis of what your doing and why, I feel Michael's pain when it comes to that
Such as people assuming he's gay because he's playing with a male friend of his,
Or him simply playing with kids and interacting with them to any meaningful degree
Or anything with the trial.
Anything and everything combed through for the littlest detail.
Sometimes people just do things with no motive behind them, But why do you think people think he always has a motive behind them?
Sometimes I get curious if we could understand the level of harm it caused to this man and his career, Can any body give me a clue to the true level of damage it brought? Career, family, emotional, physical ect, I hear a lot of bits and pieces but never the whole truth of the personal harm to Michael,
Its not just about the music at the time but the aesthetics, interviews, and who Stevie was at the time,
I enjoy the other side of the mirror era in terms of looks, I can't find many interviews from that era, But I enjoy Stevie's aesthetic choices due to the fact that red really is her color! And her hair was great too,
The trouble in shangri-la era/say you will is my favorite, Stevie seems very rejuvenated and ready to take on the world, She seems like she finally got out of that haze and is ready to take back the world, Its my favorite era because she's doing a lot better and seems free. I also enjoy her outfits and such at the time.
This is not a thread to debate on what party he'd be or how he'd stand up or compare to other people in politics (I.e say Trump, Obama, Clinton, any of them) and other hot button issues just keep it neutral and fun! if this happens I'll understand if the mod's delete the post! please behave!
I really do think he'd do a few things, first would be redoing the whole copy right system to favor artists and musicians removing more powers that Sony and big company's have over artists,
He'd likely invest in welfare programs and ensure that every American especially children is well taken care of and blessed everyday to be an American,
Dreams, gypsy, stand back, Landslide all awesome songs, But do you ever wish she sung more of her catalog, I know those songs are what people come to hear, but her work is so vast that don't you ever wish she played other things from her history as an artist?
(To be fair if she doesn't sing those songs people leave i've heard, Which is so sad, Give obscure Stevie a chance y'all)
It kinda messes with me sometimes whenever she is interviewed like man ask her about something else, Props why she doesn't do many interviews how many times are those dang interviewers gonna make her talk about it!
I wish they asked her other questions about other eras and not her early work, Love to hear more about the trouble in shangri-la what a good come back, and yet never spoken of ever again after the 2000s, Other side of the mirror and behind the mask as well, it is dry out there!
People say I live in a strange world simply because I honestly think they are Michael's kids! After I saw Janet's child who was born lighter skined I was like... Okay, this is likely the truth! I was looking at so much of the evidence and I think that yes they are, One of them is that prince likely has vitiligo! But can this subreddit help me with gathering the evidence? I just know their Michael's kids, I just need some help with compiling of it from fellow MJ fans.
Edit: One Detail I noticed that many people forget about paris Her eye brows are actually the same thickness as Michael's,
Its wild to me how many people forget Stevie's contributions not only to music but to fashion and aesthetic as well, So iconic, Her outfits have changed over the years but it is still all somehow Stevie, Fresh in every way for some reason, Very uniquely her and no body else's, People copy her, base it off her, try to do their own thing but "With a touch of Stevie nicks" I love her for that, She managed to do something so unique that she is known specially for it and only her! As someone who enjoys aesthetics are game is top tier, No body else can do it like her, A once in a generation type influence.
My family never much listened to Cher nor did it play on the radio so I don't know much about her, I like believe and turn back time, But that's about all I know of her, What are the deep cuts? The real albums I should be listening to? I don't wanna start with her hits, I wanna start with her best.
I'd love to know your opinions and debates that go on within our community