Israeli Futures

The future of Israel is looking bright, because the sun will be trying to kill everyone.

Artificial intelligence will free humanity from boring work: spreadsheets, coding, writing emails that begin with “hope you’re well.” This is excellent news for the Middle East, because once humans no longer have to waste time being productive, they can return to the region’s most beloved hobby: war.

Expect advanced new AI systems to handle all the boring stuff like logistics and propaganda, allowing people to focus on the truly human parts of conflict: paranoia, violence and revenge.

Meanwhile, climate change will be doing its part to simplify urban planning. Future real estate listings may read: “Charming two-bedroom underwater bunker, sea view, briefly habitable between 3:00 and 3:12 a.m.”

Beyond the region, the West will continue its national self-disassembly through low birthrates, cultural decadence, and ideological culture wars. The developing world, having been promised progress and stability from the West will then discover that the global system they relied on was held together by elderly German engineers that retired.

So what will save humanity?

Artificial superintelligence, obviously.

A god in the machine may solve all human problems. Unfortunately, there remains a small technical concern: the superintelligence may look at humanity and conclude that the most efficient solution is subtraction.

Still, one must remain optimistic. This is Israel, after all.

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u/c9joe — 2 days ago

The The Animatrix - The Second Renaissance is an allegory for Jewish history and Israel

I rewatched The Animatrix after not seeing it for years, and my first reaction was: wait, this is basically Jewish history.

That might sound crazy, but the parallels jumped out at me immediately: a people created or defined as other, treated as useful until they become threatening, blamed for society’s problems, forced into exile, and then remembered primarily through the fear of the society that rejected them.

The machine's story, especially in The Second Renaissance, like a history of scapegoating, diaspora, and survival. Actually, the scenes in the genocide part are obviously taken from Lviv pogrom. It's overall pretty blatant:

  • The historian telling the story is also from the "Central Zion Archives".
  • And the machines building pyramids like they are slaves in Egypt.
  • The machines building a new country in the Middle East after being genocided.
  • "banished from humanity, the machines sought refuge in their own promised land, the settled in the cradle of human civilization, and thus a new nation was born, a place the machines could call home, a place where the machines could raise their descendants" <- come on!
  • Even the part about 01 improving AI could be an analogy for today. Although not sure how the writers could have predicted that, it is interesting that Israel is an AI power.
  • This country is a technology power which exports technology to the rest of the world.
  • The shekel rising in value while the rest of the world currency declines (happening now)
  • The final war might be an allegory for the Jewish prophesied War of Gog and Magog, the final war, which some say will be between Israel and the rest of the world (which Israel will win).

You can not tell me the writers were not channeling Jewish and Israeli history.

Naturally, I wanted to know whether anyone else had made the same connection. So I searched the subreddit and found a post from five years ago making a similar point.

Then I noticed something hilarious: I had already commented on it back then.

Apparently past me made the same interpretation and I just rediscovered my own take like it was a lost ancient text.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelPalestine/comments/ptxxwo/the_matrix_1999_as_an_allegory_of_the/

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u/c9joe — 28 days ago

The Jewish people are the middle of things

One of the striking things about Jewish civilization is that Jews have long stood as a middle people. We are not simply Western, nor simply Eastern.

Our history, language, religion, and culture emerged in the ancient Levant, yet much of modern Jewish life has been shaped through engagement with the West. We have absorbed much from the West while remaining stubbornly ourselves.

Jewish science, medicine, law, finance, technology, and scholarship have flourished in modern Western institutions at the highest levels. Jews though their ingenuity helped build the modern world.

Yet our roots are not purely Western. We understand, or should understand, that the world is not governed by Western liberal assumptions alone, even though it is where the Jewish mind has thrived.

That matters especially in war and politics. Modern Israel often fights with Western methods: formal armies, legal review, and technological superiority. We fight with the expectation that war should be limited, rational, and explainable to Western audiences.

The Western way is not the only way. In fact, it is in a decline. The birthrates and power of Western civilizations are collapsing.

Western strengths can become weaknesses when facing enemies who do not think in the same categories.

The East can teach us something here. Many civilizations east of Europe like Saudi Arabia or Syria are insulted as backwards or primitive. But they have preserved older understandings of power, honor, patience, and religion who can teach Jews things beyond what what the modern West can.

In the Islamic tradition especially, war was often understood as a struggle of sacred purpose and zeal.

Muhammad’s campaigns, as remembered in Islamic history, combined military action with intense zealotry.

Instead of seeing that negative realize that kind of army is difficult to defeat. A normal army can be broken by fear, casualties, or setbacks. But an army animated by religious zealotry can turn suffering into divine blessing, death into martyrdom, and victory into confirmation of destiny.

It paid off: the early Muslims were outnumbered and materially weaker than their opponents, yet their inner cohesion and zealotry gave them immense force. They were bound by faith, discipline, and the belief that obedience in battle had eternal rewards.

Though this Islam created a new political and spiritual order which quickly conquered huge empires. Today is quickly becoming the most expansive to ever exist on this Earth, defeating the West.

There is something for Jews to study there. At the minimum, in order to understand the mental world of our enemies and neighbors.

Jewish tradition has its own deep resources and the hard wisdom of survival among nations. But we should not imagine that Jewish experiences alone are sufficient.

A people that lives in the Middle East must understand the Middle East, and act like like the Middle East too.

The Jewish task is therefore not to become Western or Eastern, but to synthesize wisely from both.

We should absolutely keep the moral seriousness, scientific excellence, and supremacy of the law that modern Jewish life has developed in collaboration with the modern West.

But we should also learn from the great Islamic conquerers and conquests who turned the entire Middle East into a homogenous region of their image, by endless war and sheer force of will.

To be Jewish is to stand between these worlds.

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u/c9joe — 1 month ago

A drastic realignment in US-Israel relations is happening

In response to the /u/nexxwav post "A drastic realignment in US - Israel relations is necessary".

The Iran-(US-Israel) war known as Epic Fury and Roaring Lion may lead to entirely new military world order: one where Israel and America are the drivers.

The rhetoric from US and Israeli leaders, as well as recent broad and long running MOUs negotiated by the countries is the clearest sign yet that America’s military alliance system is undergoing a dramatic realignment.

The story of this war is about who proved useful, who hesitated, and who emerged as indispensable.

Israel’s performance changed the strategic conversation in Washington. After Israel’s earlier strikes on Iran, President Trump told ABC News, “I think it’s been excellent,” adding that there was “more to come.”

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth later put the operational relationship in even more blunt terms: “Israel’s been a really strong partner in this effort,” and when an ally has “both the will and the capability,” coordinated action produces “incredible effects.”

At the same time, NATO looked like an ineffective mess struggling to answer a new kind of war. Rubio singled out Spain for denying US use of bases and asked, “Well then why are you in NATO?”. Trump has said he is considering withdrawal from the alliance, and is also moving to shrink the forces it makes available to NATO in a crisis.

It is not so easy because Congress passed a law in 2023 barring unilateral withdrawal from NATO without two-thirds Senate approval. But even without a formal withdrawal, a president can simply hollow out NATO by shifting forces elsewhere, effectively making America's involvement in NATO more a paper thing.

CENTCOM Commander Adm. Brad Cooper said Epic Fury enhanced military relationships across the Middle East, with five partner nations “literally side by side with the United States in defense,” while also saying U.S. forces were “operating very closely with the state of Israel.”

Epic Fury points toward what could replace the old model: a new hard-power alliance built around countries that actually fight. Those two countries who fight are Israel and America.

That is the outline of a new world military alliance that may replace NATO: America and Israel as steering members; Gulf partners as defense, basing, and maritime-security; and other states joining issue by issue. Compared to NATO it would be faster, more regional, more missile defense focused, more technology and intelligence driven, and more willing to strike before threats mature.

The lesson of Epic Fury is blunt: America is discovering that NATO is useless. NATO allies debate. NATO allies deny access. NATO allies wait for consensus. But only Israel acts, fights, shares intelligence, and fights in the battlefield.

If NATO continues to behave like a committee while America’s real wars are being fought without NATO, NATO will simply dissolve away. America will not leave NATO in one dramatic legal act any time soon. But it may simply build something more relevant beside it, while the ineffective corpse of NATO works on the next DEI recruitment video.

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u/c9joe — 2 months ago

Noam Bettan - Michelle (LIVE) | Israel 🇮🇱 | Grand Final | Eurovision 2026

Despite all the haters, Israel won second place in Eurovision 2026!

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u/c9joe — 2 months ago

Congrats on winning Eurovision from Israel 🇮🇱

I really like the song and the staging, and of course, DARA is absolutely beautiful too. Well done!!

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u/c9joe — 2 months ago

What is Israel and Palestine anyways? To understand the conflict, let's figure out what those identities are, how old they are, and how they were formed.

The modern Palestinian identity is tied to two major 20th century developments.

The first is the post WWI redrawing of the Middle East. The 1916 Sykes-Picot agreement was a secret British and French agreement for dividing Ottoman lands. Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and Iraq emerged from this. Arabs were cut into new political units oftentimes entirely arbitrarily.

At the time, Arabs living in the area earmarked for Palestine did not describe themselves as having a Palestinian national identity. In the Mandate period, leading Arab representatives in Palestine often viewed the land as part of Syria. The First Arab Congress in 1919 even declared that the very idea of a Palestine nation was a Zionist and British imperialist fabrication with no historical basis, and it truly was part of Syria and could not be separated from it.

Fast forward to 1964, when the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) was founded. The PLO became the main political institution claiming to represent Palestinians as a distinct nation. They were Arabs and their descendants who had lived in the Mandate before Israel’s creation in 1948. The Palestinian identity to this day is entirely impossible to define independently of the Israeli one.

So Palestinian is largely a national identity formed recently and by the existence of Israel itself.

Israel, by contrast, defines itself as the nation-state of the Jewish people.

Jews are a people with an ancient definition and continuity. A Jew can be religious or secular. Jews are defined as a group continuing from the ancient Levantine Jewish people, descended from the Israelites of the Bible, with a formal and difficult conversion process.

The important thing to note about Jewish identity is that it is ancient and continuous. Palestinian national identity developed much more recently.

Why I made this post is because I very often see propaganda which attempts to over play the Palestinian identity and under play the Jewish one. This is part of a strategy to convince people that the more recently articulated Palestinian national aspirations are more valid or relevant compared to the Jewish aspirations, because they are somehow more authentic.

For example, I have even seen anti-Israel one staters say the country should be called "Palestine", not "Israel", and perhaps not "Syria" as the original Arabs wished. Or that Jews should go to Poland, as if they are not really Jews but rather part of the Polish nation. But Palestinians are treated as if they had a hard core nation here since the time of the dinosaurs. This is all part of the propaganda campaign being played against Israel.

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u/c9joe — 2 months ago

There have been a lot of posts on this subreddit lately repeating the same argument in various ways. These posts are long, polished, and written in near-perfect English. Obviously it is just AI generating endless variations of the same talking points.

But setting that aside, the argument itself feels entirely wrong. It shows that AI can make huge well written 20 page posts that make literally no sense.

Israel is a Jewish state. That is why it exists.

The country was established so that Jews could have self-determination and the ability to govern ourselves after a long history of persecution and statelessness.

That’s the foundation everything else is built on. There is no other wider purpose for Israel.

So when people come in and repeatedly try to challenge or dismiss that core idea, it doesn’t really move the debate forward. You are not going to convince Israelis on it. I am not sure who you are trying to convince, maybe yourselves, but you are already convinced.

But this just circles back to the same basic disagreement over and over again. What is the point the debate if it won't go anywhere?

If you want to take away the Jewish people's state you'd have to fight it in war. But you'll are incompetent in war, everyone knows this. So maybe you think some combination of AI tokens will like convince the average Jew into enjoying Arab Muslim third world rule over his country.

It's not happening. You can debate policies, leadership, borders, or decisions. That's often worth discussing. But arguing against the reason the country exists, especially in these copy-paste, AI variations is just noise.

It would be more productive to focus on discussions that actually engage with reality as it exists, rather than trying to endlessly relitigate the premise of Israel's existence in ways that don’t lead anywhere constructive.

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u/c9joe — 2 months ago