u/fallensense

Now by win I dont mean hes gonna destroy kill the whole crew (its still a gacha game) but he will still succeed in whatever hes trying to acomplish or he will do permanent damage to the crew/trailblaze

From the trailer besides the Himke Novaflare short showcase for the most part Asat is shown winning or in a position of power 80% of the time. Add to the fact that Nanook flashed on the screen and what looks like TB's life (plus their futures and alternate timlines) flashing before their eyes it doesnt look to good for us.

I think either Asat succeeds in his initial plan and he just leaves to torture the crew more or he fails in his initial plan but he kills a Himeko when she goes for some sacrifice play to save the rest of the crew.

Either way with how much their hyping up Asat (They gave him a solo Myriad celestia about his backstory) and with his connection and his power drawing from THREE PATHS I hope he doesnt go down permenantly in this 4.4, would be disappointing.

With the latest video on Asat Pramad its very clear that he was already moving like a lord ravager without a Nanook existing.

He was orginally a good person who wanted to save the Universe or his own planet at least. First he looked to the Elation since he believed it would be the answer since he thought its a path of happiness. Turns out that it is happiness without caring about the consequences, not so good when it comes to saving people.

After which he boarded the express while Akivili was still active and thought he would find his answers across the stars. Spoiler alert humans suck everywhere and after seeing the other members of the AE beakdown after akivilit disappeared he was broken him mentally. He then proceeded to destroy the Astral Express by navigating them into situations which would lead to its members dying.

All of this happened before Asat met Nanook and maybe even before Nanook even ascended. Idk if Asat had already planned to crash the AE into planarcadia before Nanook but the rest of the events happened pre-Nanook

So besides raw power via emanator status does Asat gain anything from Nanook ?

I dont have a problem with spoilers but like:

Why are we scaling with spoilers and shouldnt we wait for the actual story to come out for scaling these characters ?

Also when having scaling discussions bringing up spoilers for arguements against people who dont want to see spoilers is kinda unfair.

I havent seen this happen before so what changed ?

For most things in HSR is there is deep meaning as to why things exist or happen. To add on to that many people add their own theories to add even further to complexity of these things.

There is nothing wrong with this I dont mean anything by that but with that in mind what are things in HSR that are not complex ? I mean to say things that are just straight and true, no deeper meaning or reason.

In my opinion the best example of what I'm trying to say is the Hunt and Lan. Lan ascended because the peoople of the Xianzhou were wronged by the abudance and now seeks to bring them justice. The Hunt now acts a path for those who seek absolute justice by "hunting" those if have done them wrong. The path itself is simple but how the followers choose to walk it isnt.

If there is nothing that has this level of simplicity then another question is would it be good for the story to have simple things ?

I would say yes to give contrast. I would to imagine a battle-junkie balls to the wall fight everyone strong because they are strong character would work really well. No deeper reason beyond they want to fight strong opponents regardless of who they are, what path they follow, and if they are stronger than them.

What do you guys think ?