u/fast_and_the-curious

I am neither a hater or supporter I am from a neutral pov...and I have to say heeseung did well woth his new album and surprisingly I liked death of me and all the other songs I think he has shown his creative ability...I am just wondering about the voting of evan vs enhypen on mnet etc...I'm curious who will win as their will be tension between ot6 and evers

Just to preface this is from a neutral perspective.

I have recently seen on instagram everyone and I mean even aespas own fandom my's violating ❄️ so hard...and armies saying she is a attention seeker because Jungkook posted a song by a n artist called the girl in red and hours later in about 3 hrs or so winter posted so many instagram pictures wearing red...and she is receiving scathing backlash by armies and her own fandom...so my question is whether she is actually innocent and it's just a coincidence every time or is she playing dumb?And I feel quite bad she is facing this much backlash...if this keeps going on she might face as much pain as the tatoo artist girl jk dated

Ang junglebook is so slow...that he won't fess up the truth and he instead goes showing his abs on a live under a denim jacket by teasing his fan girls and then he shuns them from coming to his home...when he is doing all that is humanly possible to induce this kind of fetish for him....like atp he should just come clear and say I'm dating ❄️ like it's simply a yes or no?I feel as if he thinks he is superior now just because a few westerners whom aren't armies now know him...but instead he is wasting the money and time of these fans by trying to promote this parasocial relationship with him...and then leaves them braindead in pain because they think kookie oppa is in a relationship with winter....thats why the use some videos of this skin without the puppy tatoos as a coping mechanisms saying 'our jungkook is free' when he hasn't evencomeclear about it himself...

Like on the one hand he suggests he is armies bf forever and is single...bacically scamming them whilst simultaneously having a list of girls waiting for him eg...❄️. Armies did the same thing with that tatoo artsist he dated and sent d*ath threats to her...and they started crashing out about him supposedly dating lisa from colour colour group which he probably did because he has many girls...like grow up....but he also isn't helping he always adds fuel to the fire...and how is ❄️ okay with him claiming armies as his gf but not her lol and this adds to more hate against her?

So what is everyones opinion on this...like is ❄️ hate justified??

I am still till this day confused why they cannot speak up about their past member and i mean for every k-pop group this is just ridiculous...it's like not being able to mention a dead person...I mean as long as the member who has exited hasn't done anything harmful or controversial I don't see the problem why...

I don't know why but my gut tells me some members must have has some you knowlike fight or something???

Aditionally,I am failing to understand the people he made music with and lived with for 6-7 years are not supporting him on his solo endavours ,like they should cherish what they had of course...but they should simultaneously understand that perhaps heeseung has different thoughts and aspirations in mind...they should have all done a exit live for him and it should have been that all members made something to remeber him with and all that he contributed something where theywould shed tearsof nostalgia and thank engenes for supporting heeseung throughout the years but it all happened way to abruptly...wheras I can understand that perhaps in some light that maybe heeseung seemed abit selfish because it was only one year more of a wait...so he seemed quite desperate for that solo...and like abit more of a betrayer to the fans he would promise forever with atleast till the contract ended...

I feel the members should also be able to praise his solo if someone mentions it in a live....they should be able to say like 'you know what I amproud and heeseung has a great solo comeback"

And finally,I don't know why the company doesn't speak anything clearly it's just like beating around the bush...so just say that if he is gone,he IS GONE...beacuse i see someot7 stuff popping up in the enha content despite the company knowing damn well they are scamming those enegenes who blindly believe he will come back..

I guess I just wanna know other people opinion on this especially after jungwons so called 'ot6 conformation live'-I feel lots of engenes were acting critically towards him when it is clearly evidenced and documented that heeseung isn't a member of the group...I mean are enegens truly that blind inl ove with him to not understand that heeseung left out of his free will...and why is jungwon and jay only getting the blame for nothing they did wrong...in fact they have been the most loyal to engenes by staying withe them...unlike heeseung who left without any clear explanation and managed to snatch all those engenes who were heeseung biased...I mean no hate to heeseung like he is quite talented but I just don't get the concept?

I have never visited a BTS concert I can preface that,but one thing I will say is that there concerts have seemingly lost charm...I was crying because I got kicked out the queue for there tickets for this arirangworld tour...I still like the member bts...it's just that I feel kind of relieved I didn't get the tickets now...because I feel there is some kind of nostalgia with their Love Yourself world tours.I mean jungkook was literally flying in the sky and they had bouchy castles and confetti devices....but now it feels all bland...I mean I don't want people to think I am not an army...because I am and I lowkey liked there new album I just think they should use less autotune...but besides that I feel if I voice my nostagia anywhere else I get criticized but lowkey there previous cocnerts felt like there was colour and vibes but this time it feels like the less dancing is not going well for them...idk?But Icant wait for there next tour I'msure it will be alotbetetr as they will take aboard the advice

-Heeseung protests-

Just to preface I am neither an enhypen stan or enhypen hater.I am somewhat neutral,their music is good but the memebers not so much.But besides that I feel like we should discuss why their rabid stans have just decided to forget sending protest trucks for heeseung to come back to enhypen,because not gonna lie since its been 4 months since march they were going crazy but sitting on the floor infront of hybe begging for him to come back...where did all of that go now...I mean his solo he is just meh...ride or die is just ehh and the dance makes him look abit like tung tung sahur and jojo siwa decided to coreograph it and overflow is actually nice...but definetly something he could have released in the group...but I feel it would be a lowkey and chill R&B track and wouldn't get that much attention outside of engenes,so I can understand whether it was his descicion to leave...(or it might be hybe).But I'mjust wondering that after his majoritively flop solo,why they aren't asking him tocomeback and save his face...I mean what is this?Also genuine question is the song overflow for his fans or for his S/O like a gf?