▲ 30 r/LinkedInLunatics
We ArE LeAvInG ThE oLd CoDe Age
The AI singularity cultists are getting insufferable by the day. This goddamn bubble can't burst soon enough
u/gsks — 17 hours ago
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Armin Ronacher is very uneasy about the agent loops future
From https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2026/6/23/the-coming-loop/
>Present-day models tend to produce code that is too defensive, too complex, too local in its reasoning. They avoid strong invariants. They add fallbacks instead of making bad states impossible. They duplicate code, invent bad abstractions, and paper over unclear design with more machinery. Worse though: I so far see very little progress of this improving. If anything, on that front it feels to me that we might even be making steps in the wrong direction. At least for my taste, present-day hands-off harnesses like Claude Code with ultracode produce worse code than what we were producing last autumn. That’s because Claude Code, with Fable for instance will be working uninterrupted on a problem for thirty minutes or more, when previously the process would have been much more human in the loop.
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Today I do not like much of the code that I see from systems built that way and neither do I enjoy interacting with too much of software built with AI assistance. Looping is powerful but it removes responsibility more and more, and it at least today very much encourages us to give in to the machine.
If you didn't know who the author is, you could easily write him off as an anti-AI doomer and tell him "you're holding it wrong". However this is Armin Ronacher, creator of Flask, contributor to the Pi agent harness and one of the most prolific (pro-)AI developers in the open source world.
Experienced devs who are fully on board with agentic coding (and not just forced to used it by the powers that be): does this align with your experience and if so, why is this considered not just acceptable but the (only) way forward? I don't expect from CEOs, managers, idea guys and ex-crypto bros turned into AI vibesloppers within a year to appreciate or even understand these risks and downsides but it's baffling and disappointing to see senior+ engineers go along with this state of affairs.
u/gsks — 3 days ago
Could 'human-written code' be a hiring perk?
It seems to me that the dissenting voices from software engineers burned out after having the AI hype shoved down their throats have been growing louder lately. Just this week I read several posts both on Hacker News (e.g. [1], [2]) and on Reddit (e.g. [3], [4]) with hundreds of comments from devs who have long moved past skepticism and ambivalence into one or more of the five stages of grief.
That's not to say they're the majority by any means: the "I am 100x more productive with AI," "I haven't hand-coded in months and love it," "adapt or become irrelevant" posts by True Believers haven't slowed down and still make up the lion's share, especially on places like LinkedIn, where voicing dissent can have real-world consequences for your job and future employability (I may have learned this the hard way after being laid off for nebulous "misalignment" reasons). But still, the non-believers, from mild skeptics to full-on haters, do seem more vocal than, say, six months or a year ago.
Questions:
- Have you noticed this shift too, or is it just my social media algorithm surfacing these more?
- What can we (devs) realistically do before accepting this as the new normal? Early retirement is one option, and some have already taken it or plan to in the coming years.
I'm seriously considering early retirement too (at least from tech) but I was recently contacted by a recruiter for a role that, among other things, mentions "zero AI-assisted coding." My eyes lit up, but it also got me thinking: are there more companies like this just keeping a low profile? Could a critical mass of vocal, defiant devs proclaiming "I will not be shamed, bullied, or forced into agentic coding" actually shift the narrative that AI coding is inevitable? Could contrarian companies and founders start advertising "organic, human-written" code as a quality signal and a perk for attracting experienced craftsmen who refuse to bow to AI mandates? Maybe I'm just daydreaming and the answer to all of the above is no but I'm still early in the grieving process, somewhere between denial and anger rather than depression, let alone acceptance.
u/gsks — 7 days ago
The agentic AI coding journey
Credits to the House of El channel for coining the phrase informed contempt:
>Gen Z is the most digitally literate generation in human history. They understand this technology better than any previous cohort understood the technologies that shaped their era. They know exactly what they're rejecting. This is informed contempt. They've used the product. They know what it does. They know what it doesn't do. And they know what's being promised versus what is being delivered.
u/gsks — 5 days ago
▲ 52 r/BetterOffline
Could 'human-written code' be a hiring perk?
It seems to me that the dissenting voices from software engineers burned out after having the AI hype shoved down their throats have been growing louder lately. Just this week I read several posts both on Hacker News (e.g. [1], [2]) and on Reddit (e.g. [3], [4]) with hundreds of comments from devs who have long moved past skepticism and ambivalence into one or more of the five stages of grief.
That's not to say they're the majority by any means: the "I am 100x more productive with AI," "I haven't hand-coded in months and love it," "adapt or become irrelevant" posts by True Believers haven't slowed down and still make up the lion's share, especially on places like LinkedIn, where voicing dissent can have real-world consequences for your job and future employability (I may have learned this the hard way after being laid off for nebulous "misalignment" reasons). But still, the non-believers, from mild skeptics to full-on haters, do seem more vocal than, say, six months or a year ago.
Questions:
- Have you noticed this shift too, or is it just my social media algorithm surfacing these more?
- What can we (devs) realistically do before accepting this as the new normal? Early retirement is one option, and some have already taken it or plan to in the coming years.
I'm seriously considering early retirement too (at least from tech) but I was recently contacted by a recruiter for a role that, among other things, mentions "zero AI-assisted coding." My eyes lit up, but it also got me thinking: are there more companies like this just keeping a low profile? Could a critical mass of vocal, defiant devs proclaiming "I will not be shamed, bullied, or forced into agentic coding" actually shift the narrative that AI coding is inevitable? Could contrarian companies and founders start advertising "organic, human-written" code as a quality signal and a perk for attracting experienced craftsmen who refuse to bow to AI mandates? Maybe I'm just daydreaming and the answer to all of the above is no but I'm still early in the grieving process, somewhere between denial and anger rather than depression, let alone acceptance.
u/gsks — 8 days ago
▲ 11 r/ExperiencedDevs
Could 'human-written code' be a hiring perk?
It seems to me that the dissenting voices from software engineers burned out after having the AI hype shoved down their throats have been growing louder lately. Just this week I read several posts both on Hacker News (e.g. [1], [2]) and on Reddit (e.g. [3], [4]) with hundreds of comments from devs who have long moved past skepticism and ambivalence into one or more of the five stages of grief.
That's not to say they're the majority by any means: the "I am 100x more productive with AI," "I haven't hand-coded in months and love it," "adapt or become irrelevant" posts by True Believers haven't slowed down and still make up the lion's share, especially on places like LinkedIn, where voicing dissent can have real-world consequences for your job and future employability (I may have learned this the hard way after being laid off for nebulous "misalignment" reasons). But still, the non-believers, from mild skeptics to full-on haters, do seem more vocal than, say, six months or a year ago.
Questions:
- Have you noticed this shift too, or is it just my social media algorithm surfacing these more?
- What can we (devs) realistically do before accepting this as the new normal? Early retirement is one option, and some have already taken it or plan to in the coming years.
I'm seriously considering early retirement too (at least from tech) but I was recently contacted by a recruiter for a role that, among other things, mentions "zero AI-assisted coding." My eyes lit up, but it also got me thinking: are there more companies like this just keeping a low profile? Could a critical mass of vocal, defiant devs proclaiming "I will not be shamed, bullied, or forced into agentic coding" actually shift the narrative that AI coding is inevitable? Could contrarian companies and founders start advertising "organic, human-written" code as a quality signal and a perk for attracting experienced craftsmen who refuse to bow to AI mandates? Maybe I'm just daydreaming and the answer to all of the above is no but I'm still early in the grieving process, somewhere between denial and anger rather than depression, let alone acceptance.
u/gsks — 8 days ago