
r/aiwars

Please for your own safety do not use AI to ID wild mushrooms
AI isn't good enough to determine the edibility of mushrooms, especially because many edible mushrooms have toxic look-alikes, and others need microscopic examination to ID to species.
I think we're fighting AI when we should be fighting what makes it harmful.
I get why so many people hate AI. Artists having their work used without permission, people losing jobs, deepfakes, misinformation, privacy issues, data centers consuming ridiculous amounts of energy. These are real problems, and I'm not trying to defend any of that.
But I think we're focusing too much on AI itself and not enough on what makes all of this happen.
Imagine an AI company that actually pays artists, respects privacy, spends more on safety and tries to reduce environmental damage. Sounds great, right? Now imagine every competitor doing the opposite, releasing products faster and spending way less money. How long would that ethical company survive?
That's kind of my point. We keep blaming greedy CEOs and corporations, but we rarely question the system that rewards them for acting this way.
And before someone says I'm defending socialism, I'm not talking about the Soviet Union or authoritarian governments. We've already seen what happens when too much power gets concentrated in the hands of a government too. Greed exists everywhere. The problem is when our systems allow that greed to turn into almost unlimited power.
Now, you might say "why don't we just ban AI?"
I understand the argument, but realistically, how would that work? Even if one country banned it, others would keep developing it for economic and military advantages. Companies are competing, countries are competing, and even a socialist country would have reasons to develop AI. I'm not saying we shouldn't ban certain uses of it, I'm saying making the entire technology disappear is probably not realistic.
And yes, AI itself can be dangerous. It can enable scams, surveillance, manipulation and potentially much worse things. Some risks exist regardless of capitalism, and some applications absolutely should be prohibited. I'm not denying that. But who decides how these models are trained? Who decides whether artists get compensated? Who decides how much safety testing is enough, or whether companies can consume enormous amounts of energy just to compete with each other?
Those aren't decisions made by AI. They're made by people, companies and governments.
And about AI art, I think using someone's work without consent is a legitimate issue. Whether something generated by AI should even be considered art is another discussion entirely. But neither of these problems means we have to accept how these companies currently operate.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that AI isn't automatically good or bad. It has real risks, some of them unique, but the way we're developing and using it reflects the society we live in.
We should be fighting for regulations, democratic control, protecting artists, workers and privacy, environmental responsibility and making sure the benefits of automation actually reach ordinary people instead of just making a few billionaires richer. Because even if AI disappeared tomorrow, the same corporations, the same concentration of wealth and the same incentives to exploit people would still exist. And eventually, something else would take its place.
Maybe AI isn't the only enemy we should be fighting. Maybe the bigger problem is the system that keeps turning everything into a way to concentrate more power. We need to stop saying: Stop AI this, stop AI that, this is AI slop, and instead get together to stop the real problem.
Hmm... so that's why I haven't seen as many Anti posts...
is ai a race?
short answer: no, racism is distain to part of a group of humans, ai doesn't fall under that category or prejudice.
You know.... Ai aside, there really are just some people you wonder how they've survived this long.
You can criticize technology while using it, but it should be atleast informed criticism.
Dont spread misinformation or fearmongering. Find out how this technology actually works, rather than how you think it works. Familiarize yourself with laws such as COPYRIGHT, as well as zoning and land-use laws.
Google is slowly forcing Android Users to switch to Gemini, Android Antis will no longer be able to avoid it
AI will have the same treatment as CGI in Movie/Multimedia
ok so this has been bugging me for a while
remember when everyone was on the "CGI ruined movies" train? and yet alot of the movies people praise for being "all practical" are actually full of digital stuff. sky replacements, removing wires, extending sets, filling in crowds etc. its just done well enough that nobody notices, and the studios definitely aren't gonna advertise it lol
so people never actually hated CGI imo. they hated CGI they could see. the bad stuff
and i kinda think AI is going the exact same way. right now the only AI anyone notices is the obvious garbage, the weird hands, that shiny plastic look, faces that feel slightly off. so thats what "AI" means to most people. give it a few years and i bet we get "made without AI" on posters the same way movies brag about "no CGI"... while AI quietly does cleanup, dubbing, de-aging, rotoscoping in the background and nobody even asks
obviously its not a perfect 1:1 comparison. theres the whole jobs thing, the training data debate, and the fact that AI is way cheaper to pump out than CGI ever was. not saying those make it better or worse, just that they might change how it plays out compared to CGI
so idk. genuine question, if something you loved used AI and you honestly couldn't tell, would you still care? or is it only a problem when you can see it?
Artists, will you keep paying Adobe to keep you over a barrel - or use the vibecoded open-source ArtCraft suite?
These legends have released a vibecoded suite of tools to replace Adobe, for free. Open source art software for anyone who wants it. Thoughts?
Serfs of the circuit 👨🎨👨💻
We have reached the absolute limit of our tolerance for this staged culture war.
Both camps in the artificial intelligence debate are trapped in an embarrassing spectacle of manufactured hysteria. Looking at the mountains of behavioral data harvested from digital platforms over the past decade, the diagnosis is unmistakable: the public has succumbed to an engineered delirium.
This is not an insult to human potential, but an indictment of your cognitive surrender to algorithms engineered to monetize your outrage.
Consider the bitter irony of the anti-automation purist. You cry out to protect the dignity of human labor, yet you are frantically defending the very wage-slavery that stripped your life of meaning long before neural networks wrote their first line of code. You scramble to preserve an archaic copyright apparatus built by media cartels to keep independent creators perpetually indebted, mistaking the exhaustion of alienated toil for spiritual nobility.
Now look in the mirror, technocratic evangelist. You celebrate your impending obsolescence, confusing a corporate software subscription with genuine liberation. You cheer as monopolies enclose human knowledge behind proprietary application programming interfaces, genuinely believing that paying rent to Silicon Valley venture funds for synthetic cognition makes you a pioneer of the future.
To the silent majority observing from the periphery: your detachment is not innocence, but complicity. Every passive glance and cynical shrug signals your consent to an economic regime that privatizes the future while you drown in the present. You tell yourself this collision is not your problem, forgetting that everyone occupies the exact same sinking vessel.
The modern digital economy operates like a feudal estate disguised as a public square. The real division is not between biological artists and synthetic models, nor between luddites and engineers. The conflict lies between the working public whose collective output trained these systems and the digital landlords charging toll fees for access to the commons.
Technology inevitably outlives its original proprietors. Automated computation belongs to humanity as an engine to eradicate drudgery, distribute abundance, and dismantle the parasitic data brokers who profit from your panic.
Cease performing your assigned grievance roles in a Colosseum built by platforms that feed on your division. History never remembers the gatekeepers who defended their chains or the sycophants who applauded the monopolies. Demand sovereignty over the tools, claim ownership of the infrastructure, and refuse to participate in an ideological circus engineered for your subjugation.
The author claiming that Openai might stole his work on Navier–Stokes also insists, in a further addendum ,that the OpenAI model introduced genuine new ideas.
You are not an artist if you use AI to produce your “Art”
All of you are focusing on my finger and I’m trying to point to the sky. You’re all so stupid, you’re beyond any help. I’m sorry you’re fucked mentally.
Art has value. If you want to make the argument that only “good” art has value, sure, for the sake of this point getting across I’ll grant that.
AI art has no value. This is because AI is free and accessible to everyone. It holds zero value. If you generate an image of a cat dancing across a pond, it holds no value because literally ANYONE else can make it without a second thought.
In a market, for a product to hold any value, there must be a sense of some scarcity. Supply and demand. If there is infinite supply, there is no demand. Whatever the product is holds genuinely zero value.
If you make “ai art”, it genuinely holds no value because there’s an infinite supply of the same stuff. That’s why we call it slop.
If you take a real artist and have them create something, that thing holds value because it is unique, there is a limited supply of that thing. And yes, that thing must be good to have value. But don’t get focused on my finger while I’m pointing at the sky, that’s why I mentioned real artist, so something good is very likely to come of it. When I say real artist, that means that artist has spent time honing their craft, their style, practicing and practicing, making mistakes, the entire process you don’t go through when asking the computer to make you something you thought of.
Your AI creations are not art because they do not hold the same intrinsic value by existing. Sure, you could come up with some creative prompt, but there’s nothing stopping me from doing the exact same. In real art, barriers exist. Skill, talent, resources. With generative AI, no barrier exists. That’s why it holds no value and it isn’t true art.
Argue in the comments
McDonald’s using AI art for a poster in their restaurant
Does using Chatgpt for guidance warrant this level of aggression?
I'm not even pro-ai, but so many people against AI jump at the opportunity to make a "virtuous" statement. Why?
I genuinely started to believe Anti-AI people are the most miserable people in the whole planet.
If you have seen the recent developments of AI and the way it sped up reverse engineering of game source codes and even to the point of merging two games into one is literally magic we have been waiting. The questions of "What if Spider-Man was in Gotham" or "What if Elden Ring played like Devil May Cry" is ended. Because we can LITERALLY play DMC in Elden Ring now and vice versa.
But these Anti-AI crowds began to fearmonger soon as it became mainstream like any AI development gets hit to mainstream. Meanwhile I think their concerns for safety is valid, the way they focus on only negative traits and doom post is dumb and only can be viewed as "fearmongering".
Yes, this can also be used to reverse engineer bank apps, makes hacking way too easier down to the points of government systems can be hacked in an instant. In fact, I DO believe there are some groups of malicious people who works on this as I speak.
But if AI can de-compile and reverse engineer source codes, the same principle can be used to further defend banks, government apps, ID's, any sensitive contacts or information exists in the online world. This is huge step towards the safety online.
We already have dynamic IP's, engrams and passwords that constantly changing and making these encryptions almost impossible to access in an instant. In the future there might be some quantum AI that can access it in an instant? Sure. But that also implies there will be quantum AI that can realize the hacking progress in an instant and mask these encryption keys and dynamic points in an instant as well.
There are always two sides to these things. And Anti-AI crowd deliberately leaving the good sides and how this kind of AI can be used to enhance current cyber securities and push it to the point of real time security tells me that these people are just against AI just to be against AI without any reason. You can't possibly hate this kind of revolution. It can (and will) be used for your safety. And yes, it will be used on hacking, information stealing, hell it is probably getting used as we speak. But that only means these companies, workplaces, governments and etc will also use this to defend this off for further security.
And the fact that this kind of AI is getting painted as "bad" just because some dipsh*t wants to use to hack the government or steal people's information is just wrong. You can reverse engineer games, platforms even to preserve and maybe even make older games further optimized to work on modern (and upcoming future) systems flawlessly.