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I strongly believe India needs a revolution, a revolt. Revolt from these old ideologies, revolt towards a greater economy, revolt towards a better lifestyle, revolt towards reduction and eradication of poverty at least enough so that no one dies of hunger or a disease which can be cured, nobody dies over religion, nobody dies a death that could be stoped. CJP seemed somewhat right in its stance and in condemning CJI's remark. I thought about joining it, starting a movement, writing posts for it but my gut feeling is saying there is something wrong with this satirical party. I don't trust them enough, even if I did I don't think they have the capability to bring a movement (not talking about the youth and social movement but the party, even if you consider them they can't, in my opinion). After I saw countrywise followers of their party that alone explains how bad the claim of 13-15 million followers is.

What do you think about it?

Brothers and sisters for some background, I am an agnostic atheist from India. I was just thinking about "Islamophobia" and I was thinking how bad it is.(According to me) One of the reasons it is still so prominent and growing are "Muslims"themselves. Today I stumbled across a video which was citing things about how "Islamophobia" is wrong but in the comments I could only see comments stating "Oh we don't care about that, we have the love of ALLAH (SWT) and we don't need anything else." But if you don't show love, need for love, how would you get it. And secondly the concepts of Dar ul Islam, Dar ul Aman (I don't have much grasp on this topic you can educate me on this) I fear how my country would be if it becomes a Muslim majority and there are still minorities living in the same country. There are Muslims, whom for sake of efficiency of conversation we would call Dawa givers but actually encompasses everyone who believes in the same way, who shows the positive aspects of Islam and according to them how things are misinterpreted and taken out of context, not studied enough. But the thing is when in religious institutions a child goes from an age of 5 or 6 and is given the misinterpreted revelation, brainwashed from that age how could the chains of this mindset be broken from their minds. Most of the Muslims of my country who do not even read the revelation itself but believe in people who give out hate speeches. If given a chance and an order from madrassa or mosque 80 percent of Muslims will kill every person of other belief it is not new it had happened in Kashmir, while they should not do this because the Qur'an states how big of a sin it is to kill an innocent. But again an Imam could tell them a person who does not follow the will of ALLAH (SWT) is not an innocent again brainwashing them because in this ayat, in this surah contextually it is not only for Muslims but for Kafirs also. These brainwashed people claim to kill every other person. Sometimes ago I saw a video in which a Muslim man was saying a country which does not follow islam has no right to live they are disrespecting the will of ALLAH (SWT), making them slaves is a minor punishment the major punishment is death. When you ask a Dawa giver about surah 9 and the concept of killing non believers in it they would tell you to read it with context and how it is about a war and even then it states how you cannot kill an innocent or a person who has not broken his promise with the believers. In my country Muslims would say they can marry their daughters once they start getting periods (even Zakir Naik said in a clip that I have seen that if he knows a person who is 103 years old and is virtuous he would marry a 13 year old with him) but when you ask a Dawah speaker he would say in earlier times it was a common practice but now it is not and it should not be, because Qur'an does not only specify physical maturation but also mental maturation and we know a 13 year old is not mature enough, he would say Qur'an tells not to cause harms to other so if science says a person is not even physically mature untill a certain age they should not be married (just like when it was believed that smoking was good for health it was halal but once found out how bad it was it became haram). I believe these things that Muslims themselves believe is a big reason behind "Islamophobia". While there is a whole concept of Jizya for protection of non believers like me but I still fear if one day my country becomes a Muslim majority I will be slaughtered.

Plus an additional question do you think Muslims need to form a community, an institution to deliver the revelation without misinterpretations and to keep check on Imams and madrassas and the brainwashing . Protecting other groups and stuffs like that.

It sounds a bit like Catholics and Papacy although I don't like that because how many bad things Papacy caused and how their hands are filled with blood.

But if you have any other different ideas you can join the conversation.

Brothers and sisters for some background, I am an agnostic atheist from India. I was just thinking about "Islamophobia" and I was thinking how bad it is.(According to me) One of the reasons it is still so prominent and growing are "Muslims"themselves. Today I stumbled across a video which was citing things about how "Islamophobia" is wrong but in the comments I could only see comments stating "Oh we don't care about that, we have the love of ALLAH (SWT) and we don't need anything else." But if you don't show love, need for love, how would you get it. And secondly the concepts of Dar ul Islam, Dar ul Aman (I don't have much grasp on this topic you can educate me on this) I fear how my country would be if it becomes a Muslim majority and there are still minorities living in the same country. There are Muslims, whom for sake of efficiency of conversation we would call Dawa givers but actually encompasses everyone who believes in the same way, who shows the positive aspects of Islam and according to them how things are misinterpreted and taken out of context, not studied enough. But the thing is when in religious institutions a child goes from an age of 5 or 6 and is given the misinterpreted revelation, brainwashed from that age how could the chains of this mindset be broken from their minds. Most of the Muslims of my country who do not even read the revelation itself but believe in people who give out hate speeches. If given a chance and an order from madrassa or mosque 80 percent of Muslims will kill every person of other belief it is not new it had happened in Kashmir, while they should not do this because the Qur'an states how big of a sin it is to kill an innocent. But again an Imam could tell them a person who does not follow the will of ALLAH (SWT) is not an innocent again brainwashing them because in this ayat, in this surah contextually it is not only for Muslims but for Kafirs also. These brainwashed people claim to kill every other person. Sometimes ago I saw a video in which a Muslim man was saying a country which does not follow islam has no right to live they are disrespecting the will of ALLAH (SWT), making them slaves is a minor punishment the major punishment is death. When you ask a Dawa giver about surah 9 and the concept of killing non believers in it they would tell you to read it with context and how it is about a war and even then it states how you cannot kill an innocent or a person who has not broken his promise with the believers. In my country Muslims would say they can marry their daughters once they start getting periods (even Zakir Naik said in a clip that I have seen that if he knows a person who is 103 years old and is virtuous he would marry a 13 year old with him) but when you ask a Dawah speaker he would say in earlier times it was a common practice but now it is not and it should not be, because Qur'an does not only specify physical maturation but also mental maturation and we know a 13 year old is not mature enough, he would say Qur'an tells not to cause harms to other so if science says a person is not even physically mature untill a certain age they should not be married (just like when it was believed that smoking was good for health it was halal but once found out how bad it was it became haram). I believe these things that Muslims themselves believe is a big reason behind "Islamophobia". While there is a whole concept of Jizya for protection of non believers like me but I still fear if one day my country becomes a Muslim majority I will be slaughtered.

Plus an additional question do you think Muslims need to form a community, an institution to deliver the revelation without misinterpretations and to keep check on Imams and madrassas and the brainwashing . Protecting other groups and stuffs like that.

It sounds a bit like Catholics and Papacy although I don't like that because how many bad things Papacy caused and how their hands are filled with blood.

But if you have any other different ideas you can join the conversation.