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Over-engineered solar mount for 20ft container and 16 panels?

First solar install. Trying to make 16 panels work on a 20ft container without any fab work on the container. Material cost right now using 1 5/8" Unistrut and Domino clamps is sitting just under $5,000 USD. Have I over-engineered this? The idea is that the lower end of the structure will hinge on the 1.5" pipe secured to the container through the Domino clamps. This ~600lb structure holding ~860lbs of panels can handle a hurricane, but I'm in Washington State where we very rarely have to deal with wind over 7mph.

Is there a better way to do this without just using wood?

u/jeremypbeasley — 3 days ago

First stab at my solar power setup for an off grid house on an island

Building a small house on an island in Washington! Would love some critique here before I go all in and buy this pricey equipment.

Could use a sanity check on the overall architecture, component compatibility/sizing, PV stringing, battery/inverter configuration, and anything significant I’m overlooking.

I've attached a drawing I made in Figma and big long description of the system below.

My primary concern is if I've sized my OCPD/fuses/breakers/disconnects correctly and if my ground path is correct.

  1. Does this overall architecture make sense?
  2. Is the 30.72 kWh EG4 bank appropriate behind two 10 kVA Quattros?
  3. Is the Quattro pair appropriate for the expected 120/240V loads and well-pump startup?
  4. Are there any UL/NEC/Washington permitting issues, particularly with the MPPT or battery/Victron combination? Really don't want this backfiring once I've got the equipment being inspected for my later permitted house build.
  5. Have I sized my OCPDs correctly?

Some background on my system:

System Architecture

48V battery system / 120/240V split-phase AC ↓ PV Array (See below) ↓ Victron SmartSolar MPPT RS 450/200 ↓ 51.2V EG4 LL-S Battery Bank ↓ 2 × Victron Quattro 48/10000/140-100/100, 120V UL ↓ 120/240V Split-Phase Load Panel ↓ House / Well / Shop

Cerbo GX MK2 for system monitoring/control

Generator → Quattro AC input

Load and Surge Calculations

Phase Category Device Qty Running W Surge W Hours/Day Daily Wh Peak Group Notes
1 Always On Starlink 1 60 75 24 1440 1
1 Always On Router / Network 1 15 15 24 360 1
1 Always On Refrigerator 1 70 600 24 1680 1 Modern Energy Star
1 Always On Inverter Idle 1 50 50 24 1200 1 Adjust after hardware selection
1 Lighting Interior LED Lighting 15 135 135 4 540 1 15 bulb, 9W each
1 Electronics Laptops 2 120 120 15 1800 1
1 Electronics Phones / Cameras 1 30 30 3 90 2
1 Electronics TV / Stereo 1 120 120 2 240 2
1 Water Well Pump 1 1500 7700 0.5 750 1 1.5 HP 220V, 3-Wire
1 Shop Table Saw 1 2000 4500 0.25 500 2
1 Shop Miter Saw 1 1500 3500 0.1 150 2
1 Shop Battery Chargers 1 150 150 2 300 2
2 Always On Chest Freezer 1 150 600 24 3600 1
2 Shop Air Compressor 1 1500 4500 0.3 450 2
2 Lighting Exterior LED Lighting 1 15 15 10 150 1 Low voltage system at night
2 Climate Mini Split 1 600 2000 10 6000 1 Average draw estimate
2 Kitchen Microwave 1 1500 1500 0.2 300 2 Wood-fired cooking otherwise
2 Shop Dust Collector / ShopVac 1 2000 4000 0.5 1000 2
2 Shop Arc Welder 1 7000 7000 0.05 350 3 Rare use
2 Laundry Washing Machine 1 500 1000 0.5 250 2

PV Array

Panels: REC Solar REC460AA PURE-RX
Quantity initially: 8
Initial array: 3.68 kW
Eventual quantity: 16
Eventual array: 7.36 kW

Module Electrical Specifications

Spec Value
Pmax 460 W
Vmp 54.9 V
Voc 65.7 V
Imp 8.38 A
Isc 8.88 A
Dimensions 1728 × 1205 × 30 mm

Proposed initial stringing: 2 × 4-panel series strings. (8 total) Proposed final stringing: 4 × 4-panel series strings. (16 total)

Solar Charge Controller

1 × Victron SmartSolar MPPT RS 450/200

The intention is to buy the final-size controller now even though the initial PV array is only 3.68 kW.

Final planned PV capacity is approximately 7.36 kW.

Please verify that the RS 450/200 is appropriate for both the initial and eventual arrays and flag any UL/NEC/AHJ issues with using this controller in a fixed permitted installation in Washington.

Battery Bank

6 × EG4 LL-S 48V 100Ah LiFePO₄ rack batteries

Per battery:

  • 51.2 V nominal
  • 100 Ah
  • 5.12 kWh

Initial Bank

Specification Value
Battery quantity 6
Nominal voltage 51.2 V
Total capacity 600 Ah
Total energy 30.72 kWh

Batteries will be installed in EG4’s six-slot enclosed rack with integrated busbars.

Possible Future Expansion

9 batteries / 900 Ah / 46.08 kWh

Please verify:

  • DC bus architecture
  • Appropriate main battery protection/disconnect
  • Compatibility with the dual Quattros
  • Maximum charge/discharge currents
  • Cable/busbar sizing
  • Method for adding a second rack in the future
  • EG4 LL-S BMS/CAN communication with Cerbo GX/Victron DVCC

Inverter/Chargers

2 × Victron Quattro 48/10000/140-100/100, 120V — UL-listed version

Intended configuration:

120/240V split phase, with one Quattro providing each 120V leg.

The system needs to support substantial motor-starting loads, particularly a 240V 1.5 HP submersible well pump, as well as intermittent woodworking tools and eventually a welder.

Please verify that this particular pair of Quattros can be configured as intended for North American 120/240V split phase and that the proposed battery bank can adequately support their DC current requirements.

Monitoring / Control

1 × Victron Cerbo GX MK2

Intended to monitor/control:

  • Both Quattros
  • RS 450/200
  • EG4 battery BMS/SOC
  • Generator operation/charging

I’d particularly like confirmation of the best way to integrate the EG4 LL-S CAN/BMS communication with the Cerbo GX.

Load Estimates

My current load model has two stages:

Stage Daily Energy Simultaneous Running Load
Phase 1 9.05 kWh/day ~5.75 kW
Phase 1 + 2 21.15 kWh/day ~11.4 kW

Phase 1 includes networking/Starlink, refrigerator, lighting, computers/electronics, well pump, and intermittent construction tools.

Phase 2 adds mini-split HVAC, chest freezer, exterior lighting, microwave, washing machine, shop vac/dust collection, compressor, and occasional welding.

Well Pump

RPS Steel Pro 10RPS15-S
1.5 HP / 220V / 3-wire submersible

I’m currently conservatively modeling its startup demand at approximately 7.7 kVA equivalent and would like the inverter/startup assumptions checked.

u/jeremypbeasley — 6 days ago

First self-built cabin. Help me with this framing?

Help me figure out where my structure is weak? At the very least I have this issue (last pic) where the ties between the front posts and the rafters are running into each other. Any ideas on how to design that better? Posts are oversized 4x8. Beams are 4x6. Most everything else is 2x.

u/jeremypbeasley — 2 months ago
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Birdie needs a new home!

Birdie needs a new home! She is crate trained, great with older kids (we have 3), and great with other dogs. She is 7, very attached to her person, needs someone who can be with her for most of the day and show her lots of attention. Unfortunately I’m moving and can no longer take care of her. Anyone interested? Message me and I’ll be happy to share ample information and arrange a meet up.

Birdie is very scared of low flying military aircraft so anyone near the base is probably not a good idea.

u/jeremypbeasley — 2 months ago

Anyone have experience financing owner builds?

I’m close to securing some acreages in South Whidbey and elated to build a small house for my family. I’m not a licensed contractor but have a ton of experience building. Getting any lender to buy my story has been challenging. Any tips?

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