u/kevinACS

Internal movement after degree

I’m a new acquisition to Boeing (spirit employee) and have been looking into getting my degree once we move to the LTP system. Worked the floor for 8 years and got into the salary side (wtpu) as operations support.

About a year ago, I applied for and was offered a higher level role in another org but HR said it wasn’t allowed.

Does Boeing have any odd rules like this? If I get an engineering degree, would it still be a lateral transfer?

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u/kevinACS — 6 days ago

How to communicate frustrations to manager in 1:1?

In the 2 years I’ve been in my first salary role, my first manager said she would submit me for promotion but changed her mind because a colleague said I hadn’t been there long enough. The next year, I took on a TON of extra work, trained someone making double my salary, and was denied an additional raise outside of our standard annual raises (senior manager was new and said no) where I received the company average. I explained my frustration with that with my manager at the time, but it wasn’t a negotiation.

After that, I applied and was offered a position in a different internal department, but was denied by HR because it came with a level bump and apparently only laterals are allowed. My direct and senior managers both talked me out of it because I would be up for promotion again in the fall, but not if I transferred. The next promotion cycle, they did actually submit me but I was denied by HR due to “low comp ratio”. Meaning they weren’t paying me enough for me to be eligible, despite my duties and performance. That’s when I was given additional 5% raise instead, with another promise of “you’ll get it next year”.

I am a union employee. I asked the union how it makes sense that I’m doing (and expected to do) tasks that come with a 30% higher pay scale while having it in writing that I was denied a promotion due to low pay for my CURRENT level. Today I received a response of essentially “we asked that multiple times and haven’t gotten an answer from the company, but we hope we get one soon.”

My 1:1 is next week. My manager is new again, but she was in training with my former manager when I expressed my frustrations about my average raise last year. She is also no longer my official manager, as we have a new external hire that’s taking over our half of the team. My customer service face has been broken for a year now and I’m not sure how well I can answer a “So how are you doing?” poke.

I could likely go back to the floor and make 15k more, but I’d be stuck on 2nd shift. My current role is too much of a generalist for me to find anything fitting, so I’m kind of between a rock and a hard place.

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u/kevinACS — 2 months ago