u/lxxmng

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I have just been downgraded from Kind Regards to Regards and I am not sure if I should call HR or a lawyer?

I am currently in an email chain where the pleasantries are evaporating at a rate of one word per message. I have officially lost the Kind and I am genuinely concerned that I am only three replies away from the dreaded and final Thanks. Is there a level below Regards )?

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u/lxxmng — 6 days ago

My AI bot vs London pub landlords: A brutal reality check

I have spent years in the dry world of global logistics but I have recently been humbled by the reality of the London hospitality scene. I live in the SW15 area and I am obsessed with finding a specific peach infused cider. Since finding it on tap is a total lottery I decided to build a community project called Pubify to map out niche drinks.

I built the MVP in a week using Claude. To handle the onboarding I used Vapi and Claude Haiku to call 1,100 London pubs and offer them a free listing to manage their own taps. I thought my experience building platforms in the past would make this a straightforward task.

It was a total disaster.

My call logs are now a poetic wall of pure Anglo Saxon fury. 99 percent of landlords hung up within five seconds. Even with the speed of Haiku the tiny silence after they say hello is enough for them to smell a bot and tell me to jog on in very colourful language.

I have two big questions for the UK startup community:

Is the concept of a free app dead for business owners? I am offering a free tool with zero strings but I cannot even get them to listen. Have we reached a point of absolute fatigue where free is no longer a selling point?

Has anyone actually cracked Voice AI for cold B2B onboarding? I am curious if anyone has made voice bots feel trustworthy enough to survive the first ten seconds. Is this a technical latency issue or is it just culture simply too hostile toward automated voices in a professional setting?

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u/lxxmng — 6 days ago
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Fighting the "Immediate Hang-up" and High Latency Burn: Vapi + Claude Haiku

I’m currently building a community project for London pubs (Pubify) and I’ve been using Vapi hooked into Claude Haiku for automated onboarding calls to 1,100+ publicans:

The tech is impressive, but my call logs are a bloodbath. 99% of my calls are ended within 5 seconds with a "jog on" or a click. Even with Haiku being as fast as it is, I’m hitting some serious real-world walls

I have three specific technical/cost issues I’d love some advice on:

1. The "Hello?" Latency Trap Even with Haiku’s speed, there’s that tiny "AI pause" right after the landlord says "Hello?" That half-second of silence is the "Uncanny Valley" death zone. In a busy London boozer, that’s all the time they need to smell a robocall and slam the phone down

  • Question: Are you guys using pre-recorded "fillers" or specific Vapi configurations to kill that initial silence? How do you make the first 3 seconds feel local and immediate? Any advice?

2. The Cost of Rejection I’m using Vapi + Haiku to keep the burn down, but it’s still sucking my blood like a young wife. When you're dialling 1,100 numbers and getting 99% immediate hang-ups, those "connection fees" and minimum minute charges start to look like a very expensive hobby.

  • Question: For those doing high-volume cold outreach to "hostile" environments, how are you optimizing the Vapi spend? Is there a way to "pre-qualify" the pick-up before the LLM brain even starts ticking?

3. Termination Sensitivity I’ve noticed the bot sometimes stays "on the line" for a second or two after the landlord slams the phone down, still trying to process the background noise of the pub, which just burns more credits.

  • Question: Any tips on tightening the disconnect detection or using webhooks to kill the call the millisecond a "user_hung_up" signal is detected?
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u/lxxmng — 6 days ago